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Rotary'14 |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 24-April 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 3,977 ![]() |
Hi All,
I've been lurking around for a while now and felt it's time to get off my A$$ and put a teener back into my life. I went and rolled my last project car out of my ma's garage, a 1974 2.0 914. It has some rust issues in the rear trunk and the PO had some crappy repairs done to it, but I'm not complaining. This car has been sitting for over 10 years in my ma's garage. This would be my second rotary 914. The first rotary 914 I ever had was over 10 years ago, and it survived stop and go traffic and a vacation to SF california, I live in LA. It was my daily driver to my first "real" job for 3 years. But 3 years of daily driving really took it's toll on my poor 914 and lack of parking forced me to send it to the autobahn in the sky. I kept all the parts and I'm starting the project again. Attached image(s) ![]() |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 24-April 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 3,977 ![]() |
new stuff starts at post 100
a video of me revving her a bit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmhgULTZfuM Attached thumbnail(s) ![]() ![]() |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,275 Joined: 24-September 03 From: Benson, AZ Member No.: 1,191 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() |
Very nice Rob,
Can't wait to see some video of her on the street. I've always liked the rotary setup - and it fits so well in the 914. Did you use stock (Mazda) FI controller or aftermarket? Enjoy! |
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#103
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 4-October 09 From: Boston Member No.: 10,885 Region Association: None ![]() |
Hi, great thread! How's the car running?
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Whatchu' lookin' at?!?! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,433 Joined: 6-September 04 From: San Gabriel, CA Member No.: 2,697 ![]() |
Hey Rob, still re-cooperating from the "incident"? How's the car? I hear you have a shell to swap everything over. Good thing your radiator shroud was in the "prototype stage" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Rotary'14 |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 24-April 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 3,977 ![]() |
I got off my butt for 9-14,,,,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYUSQgHcTEU...eature=youtu.be now for some tuning and finishing,,, |
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#106
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Resident Electrician ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,347 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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#107
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,266 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
Robert,
Glad to see this...got another car. That's great. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 863 Joined: 25-April 05 From: South Bay/SoCal Member No.: 3,983 Region Association: None ![]() |
I like that solid idle. Keep up the momentum.
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Rotary'14 |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 24-April 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 3,977 ![]() |
Well a little update,,
got my idle tuned well enough for a torture test. I had the car idle at 700 rpm for 30 minutes straight with the fans going full blast. Engine temp was a solid 185 F. same for a 1500 rpm idle. The radiator started to poop out with a 2000 rpm idle after 15 minutes the temp started to creep up a little. Outside temp was in the 90s. It looks like I might be able to make the next G&R swap with my 914! |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 24-April 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 3,977 ![]() |
I just drove my Rotary 914 conversion to the famous G&R parts swap BBQ. 140 miles round trip. My temps on the freeway were averaging about 203 F. Same on the way home in the afternoon. Ambient temps were 80 F, it's a cool day in So Cal. I was cruising at 80 at 3K rpm. This set up barely keeps my 13B cool on the freeway. I plan to mount a flap onto the engine bar to "scoop" up air from the bottom to try and increase the air flow through the radiator. And to install foam around some seams of the radiator to force the air up throught it.
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 24-April 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 3,977 ![]() |
You folks can guess the look I'm shooting for. I bet this would work great for N/A subies.
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() |
are you trying to blow the air down into the engine compartment?
if so that wont work so well because the area around the engine lid is a low pressure area as discussed many times in other threads. at speed you would be better off pulling the air through the radiator exiting out the top of the engine compartment. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 24-April 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 3,977 ![]() |
are you trying to blow the air down into the engine compartment? if so that wont work so well because the area around the engine lid is a low pressure area as discussed many times in other threads. at speed you would be better off pulling the air through the radiator exiting out the top of the engine compartment. The fans are there to pull air out of the engine compartment. |
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#114
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,059 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
Good for you for getting it to work....a scoop underneath and some air direction should help a lot. What temp do you need for a rotary, 180's? Were the fans running constantly? Are you sure all the air is out of the system? Have you tried water wetter?
Waterwetter Available at FLAPS, supposed to take 15-20 degrees off the temp. I mocked up an enginelid rad myself but for the 6 cylinder Subie it wasn't looking like enough cooling power and there wasn't a lot of space for airflow. For a 4 or rotary it's a great idea. |
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beach bum ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: 7-June 12 From: San Diego Member No.: 14,538 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
KEEP THE CHROME!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) it looks good.
Car looks great! nice chatting today! |
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#116
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 19-March 14 From: United States Member No.: 17,139 Region Association: None ![]() |
Hi,
some friends and I are looking in to building a 13b 914. So I know that front engine brace originally is for a VW engine (probably a type 4). How much work did you have to do to use that engine mount? thanks! Kyle |
Rotary'14 |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 24-April 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 3,977 ![]() |
Look at post #2 of this thread, there's a pic of my engine mount. It's pretty easy to copy. 3" x 4" angle iron with some machined holes. be sure to post pics of your build if you guys go thru with it.
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 19-March 14 From: United States Member No.: 17,139 Region Association: None ![]() |
Hi guys, just a quick update on our 13B 914 swap. We've started getting our engine prepped. Took off unnecessary stuff like P/S pump, smog pump, AC compressor. We also did a compression test. Our compression tester is kinda janky in that it wont hold pressure, but we measured 55-58psi in the front rotor and 55-60psi in the rear rotor. We got our Kennedy adapter plate (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Up next we're looking at other deletes. So I was looking for your opinions: Any reason Not to do OMP delete? IAC / ACV delete? EGR delete? Rats nest? <-all the vacuum stuff under the TB I guess what Im getting at is, what are the barebone needs to run a 13B? |
Rotary'14 |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 24-April 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 3,977 ![]() |
Hi guys, just a quick update on our 13B 914 swap. We've started getting our engine prepped. Took off unnecessary stuff like P/S pump, smog pump, AC compressor. We also did a compression test. Our compression tester is kinda janky in that it wont hold pressure, but we measured 55-58psi in the front rotor and 55-60psi in the rear rotor. We got our Kennedy adapter plate (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Up next we're looking at other deletes. So I was looking for your opinions: Any reason Not to do OMP delete? IAC / ACV delete? EGR delete? Rats nest? <-all the vacuum stuff under the TB I guess what Im getting at is, what are the barebone needs to run a 13B? Hi Burrelks! Post some pics, I would love to see another rotary 914, it's one of the rarest conversion IMHO. The rat's nest under the TB can be eliminated, get some vacuum caps and plug all the holes up, if it's smog related you don't need it. You should not delete the OMP (oil metering pump) unless you plan to pre-mix 2 stroke oil in your fuel. Rotary engines need some oil to lube the seals. I would keep the IAC unless your fuel injection does not control it. -Rob |
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 19-March 14 From: United States Member No.: 17,139 Region Association: None ![]() |
Hi guys, just a quick update on our 13B 914 swap. We've started getting our engine prepped. Took off unnecessary stuff like P/S pump, smog pump, AC compressor. We also did a compression test. Our compression tester is kinda janky in that it wont hold pressure, but we measured 55-58psi in the front rotor and 55-60psi in the rear rotor. We got our Kennedy adapter plate (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Up next we're looking at other deletes. So I was looking for your opinions: Any reason Not to do OMP delete? IAC / ACV delete? EGR delete? Rats nest? <-all the vacuum stuff under the TB I guess what Im getting at is, what are the barebone needs to run a 13B? Hi Burrelks! Post some pics, I would love to see another rotary 914, it's one of the rarest conversion IMHO. The rat's nest under the TB can be eliminated, get some vacuum caps and plug all the holes up, if it's smog related you don't need it. You should not delete the OMP (oil metering pump) unless you plan to pre-mix 2 stroke oil in your fuel. Rotary engines need some oil to lube the seals. I would keep the IAC unless your fuel injection does not control it. -Rob Attached thumbnail(s) ![]() |
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