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> Time to meet Rotary NARP, welcome to the restart of my project
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post Oct 7 2014, 11:03 AM
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Hi guys, just a quick update on our 13B 914 swap. We've started getting our engine prepped. Took off unnecessary stuff like P/S pump, smog pump, AC compressor. We also did a compression test. Our compression tester is kinda janky in that it wont hold pressure, but we measured 55-58psi in the front rotor and 55-60psi in the rear rotor. We got our Kennedy adapter plate (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Up next we're looking at other deletes. So I was looking for your opinions:
Any reason Not to do OMP delete?
IAC / ACV delete?
EGR delete?
Rats nest? <-all the vacuum stuff under the TB

I guess what Im getting at is, what are the barebone needs to run a 13B?

Hi Burrelks!
Post some pics, I would love to see another rotary 914, it's one of the rarest conversion IMHO.

The rat's nest under the TB can be eliminated, get some vacuum caps and plug all the holes up, if it's smog related you don't need it. You should not delete the OMP (oil metering pump) unless you plan to pre-mix 2 stroke oil in your fuel. Rotary engines need some oil to lube the seals. I would keep the IAC unless your fuel injection does not control it.

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post Oct 7 2014, 11:04 AM
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Just some more pics


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post Oct 7 2014, 11:05 AM
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oh and our 13B came single turbo-ed. I believe its an s5 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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post Oct 7 2014, 08:22 PM
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I am using that engine too! without the turbo/intercooler (for now) I have about 1000 miles since I got her running.
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post Oct 10 2014, 11:12 AM
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I am using that engine too! without the turbo/intercooler (for now) I have about 1000 miles since I got her running.


shweet! theres a few things that we need to change, like we need a 12A front cover...because the engine mounts.
and then the thermostat housing came broken....(IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) and then we broke the oil supply line for the tubro (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

but yeah, it should be a fun car when its done
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post Oct 15 2014, 07:21 PM
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Oh hey Kyle! Fancy seeing you here! I've been browsing this thread for months now, but I never ventured to the last two pages until tonight.

I'll try to get some pictures of our 914 to post. Right now we're working on fixing the MegaSquirt on the Type 4 that's in it so we can have a little fun while we prep the 13B for the swap.

Yeah, the only picture that I have is just of the hood up showing the fuel cell...
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post Oct 27 2014, 06:52 PM
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Hi guys,
got some follow up questions for ya

under the intake manifold theres vacuum lines going to each "oil sprayer" can those be removed? If i premix of course

Next, theres 3 turbo solenoids near the TB, do those need a vacuum source?

Basically, what all needs a vacuum source?

Thanks guys!
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post Jan 19 2015, 10:08 AM
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Hi guys! Could use your help here. Im using the 13B motor with a 12A front cover. What oil pan do I need? Because the 13B pan is too small and so is the 12A (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jan 19 2015, 06:47 PM
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If you are using a 13b with a 12a front cover,,, then you need an early 1974~1985 oil pan and gasket.
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post Jan 19 2015, 09:47 PM
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Hi guys! Could use your help here. Im using the 13B motor with a 12A front cover. What oil pan do I need? Because the 13B pan is too small and so is the 12A (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Lucky7racing in Duarte call them.
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post Jan 20 2015, 09:22 PM
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If you are using a 13b with a 12a front cover,,, then you need an early 1974~1985 oil pan and gasket.


Is that the same as a 12A pan? Because Thats too small also (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jan 20 2015, 09:25 PM
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Hi guys! Could use your help here. Im using the 13B motor with a 12A front cover. What oil pan do I need? Because the 13B pan is too small and so is the 12A (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Lucky7racing in Duarte call them.


Sure thing! I spoke to Will last week, helped me order some parts. Very helpful guy
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post Jan 20 2015, 10:11 PM
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If you are using a 13b with a 12a front cover,,, then you need an early 1974~1985 oil pan and gasket.


Is that the same as a 12A pan? Because Thats too small also (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

It's not the same as a 12A pan,,,, I believe you can order a GSL-SE oil pan from the dealer, or whomever you want.
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post Jan 30 2015, 11:55 AM
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And then have any of you guys used an Apexi Power FC to run your EFI? Or have any of you used Megasquirt?

We havent had the best of luck with megasquirt, but the apexi units are friggin expensive. Like $1000 in total (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jan 30 2015, 05:41 PM
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And then have any of you guys used an Apexi Power FC to run your EFI? Or have any of you used Megasquirt?

We havent had the best of luck with megasquirt, but the apexi units are friggin expensive. Like $1000 in total (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I never used the apexi stuff,,, I was planning on using MegaSquirt,,, but I found a good deal on a Haltec E-6k, later I do plan on upgrading to a MS2,,, the RX-7 club has a forum that should be able to help you if you go with megasquirt.

http://www.rx7club.com/megasquirt-forum-153/

or,,,,
you can go with a weber 48 IDA on a manifold from Australia, and skip all the FI head ache.

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post Feb 2 2015, 04:47 PM
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See ive got a friend in MD that owns a rotary shop. He's strongly encouraging that we (my group of friends) use an Apexi unit. The kinda nice thing is that our club is funded by the school.

BTW, i was really amazed to see Aaron Cake's MS stuff, ive seen his videos on his cosmo all over youtube. Just kinda cool to run into him elsewhere
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post Apr 28 2015, 10:19 PM
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HI GUYS!! NEED HELP!

so im in the process of putting the rotary in the car. but I cant get the porsche trans on the rotary. I bought a kit from Kennedy. Put the adapter plate one, put the pilot bearing in. But i just cant get the trans all the way on.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
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post Apr 28 2015, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(burrelks @ Apr 28 2015, 09:19 PM) *

HI GUYS!! NEED HELP!

so im in the process of putting the rotary in the car. but I cant get the porsche trans on the rotary. I bought a kit from Kennedy. Put the adapter plate one, put the pilot bearing in. But i just cant get the trans all the way on.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
Kyle

did you use the clutch disc alignment tool to line the splines and the pilot bearing up?
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post Apr 29 2015, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(burrelks @ Apr 28 2015, 09:19 PM) *

HI GUYS!! NEED HELP!

so im in the process of putting the rotary in the car. but I cant get the porsche trans on the rotary. I bought a kit from Kennedy. Put the adapter plate one, put the pilot bearing in. But i just cant get the trans all the way on.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
Kyle

Call louie at Lucky 7 Racing...... tell him (Jaime) hymen lol sent you.
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post May 1 2015, 01:29 PM
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So to align the clutch, i used an old input shaft, and that didnt seem to fit in all the way either. So I might pull the pilot bearing from the VW type 2 and see what that looks like.

Thanks for the speedy responses guys! Really appreciate it!

Kyle Burrell
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