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> DEAD ON ARRIVAL, DOA Don't Ordinarily Acquiesce
post Oct 24 2017, 09:16 AM
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Out of the blue my recent 6 build died. Here are the facts as I recall them...

Early one morning recently i decided to drag my car to our place in Scottsdale to do some desert driving as I am sick of the traffic in OC. I started the car as usual and drove it to the back of my tow vehicle. I hooked up the towbar and aux. lights (no attached to the 914's electricals).....

As I made my way towing the 914 up the grade up on the I-10 outside of Redlands, the serpentine belt and pulley gave out on the MBZ and proceeded to leave me going 65 in lane 3 of 5 surrounded by semi's and other vehicles that did not want to let me get to the shoulder. As i muscled the no-power steering and no-brakes conundrum toward the shoulder, the car spewed fluids all over the windshield because, by this time, a piece of the pulley went thru the radiator and windshield washer resivoir trashing them along the way to a fried engine.

I managed to get to the shoulder and calledthe car and A,.... then called AA then AAA............ Eventually Gomer and the flat bed showed up and picked up the dripping ML. He then headed back to Laguna while I prepared to drive the 914 behind him back home.

POPwrrrrrwrrrwrrrrwrrrrwrwrwrwrrrr,... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)
POPwrrrrrwrrrwrrrrwrrrrwrwrwrwrrrr,... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)

Dead............Plenty of turnover but no spark / or should I say one spark then no spark.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)

For the first time in 3000 miles+, the 914 would not start. Normally 1st crank and it explodes into a nice roar then back to idle... Not this time. Nothing. Zero. Zilch.

Keep in mind, I drove the car to the back side of the tow vehicle quite fine. Towing it croaked it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)

So I called AA then AAA again.... and low and behold, the same driver and truck came back to hitch my 914 to the back of the flatbed that had my toasted MBZ on it.

Long story but a longer day on the side of the freeway...........

Now the 914 is in AZ dead as a doornail. My pal Keith and I did much trouble shooting on the wiring / this,.. between the two transmissions that went into and one out of his car in the meantime.

All leads from the MSD plug to the P.K. wiring harness (that has been flawless for the past several thousand mile of seamless spark) show continuity. the coil is good to go - as proven by exchanging Keiths with mine and mine with keith's... His car runs mine doesnt.

We performed several Parts Classic tests to prove that the distributor is good and not fouled in any internal way. I replaced the 85 dollar little green wire (Pelican Parts... ridiculous (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) ) then replaced the coil wire with another MSD unit with the "Power Tower" to allow a standard coil to mate to MSD proprietary wire ends.... another (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)

anyway,... One of the MSD Tech guys was a smartass smug dipsey doodle talking down at Keith and I - and the second guy from MSD Tech that both Keith and I talked to (Joe) was a complete professional in style and manner of presenting a few tests to eliminate the coil and the distributor (ahhhgen...)

So my simple question for the folks out there is.. Has anyone with the MSD Digital AL6 experienced this kind of DOA mystery? the hills and mountain roads leading to the Grand Canyon are begging for an answer.

The simple way to add a week to no driving is to pack up the box and send it to MSD for a test / and I will do that if no sage advice comes from this lengthy narrative..

but there is always the hope (unfortunately).. that one of you guys has seen this issue before me and can relay some sage advice.


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forrestkhaag   DEAD ON ARRIVAL   Oct 24 2017, 09:16 AM
Cairo94507   Oh man - sorry to hear that story X2. I hope you ...   Oct 24 2017, 09:24 AM
drem914   Hang in there Forrest. I know you will get this so...   Oct 24 2017, 09:54 AM
forrestkhaag   Thanks Guys! Today I am going to take the ent...   Oct 24 2017, 10:13 AM
Steve   That sucks!! Sorry to hear this. Positiv...   Oct 24 2017, 10:19 AM
BeatNavy   Forrest has in spades what every 914-owner needs: ...   Oct 24 2017, 10:32 AM
worn   Forrest has in spades what every 914-owner needs:...   Oct 24 2017, 02:47 PM
Coondog   Sorry Forrest, was wondering where you have been. ...   Oct 24 2017, 10:41 AM
forrestkhaag   That stretch of highway has more potholes, pothead...   Oct 24 2017, 02:20 PM
914_teener   That stretch of highway has more potholes, pothea...   Oct 24 2017, 05:16 PM
Justinp71   That stretch of highway has more potholes, pothea...   Oct 27 2017, 03:16 PM
Elliot Cannon   That much trouble almost sounds like the "sub...   Oct 24 2017, 03:34 PM
michael7810   Damn Forrest, that sucks. I have a 6AL on my TIV ...   Oct 24 2017, 04:04 PM
snakemain   Does yours have the LED that blinks when it first ...   Oct 24 2017, 04:11 PM
76-914   This is easy. The 914 went into shock as they are ...   Oct 24 2017, 04:50 PM
Elliot Cannon   This is easy. The 914 went into shock as they are...   Oct 24 2017, 09:33 PM
worn   This is easy. The 914 went into shock as they ar...   Oct 25 2017, 12:39 PM
76-914   This is easy. The 914 went into shock as they ar...   Oct 26 2017, 08:40 AM
Jeff Hail   What kind of pick up are you using as a trigger? M...   Oct 24 2017, 07:12 PM
mb911   I had that problem on a twin plug setup on my 3.2 ...   Oct 24 2017, 07:21 PM
plays with cars   Have you gone through the basics? Fuel, spark, co...   Oct 24 2017, 08:35 PM
zipedadoo   You might try disconnecting the tachometer. I chas...   Oct 24 2017, 08:36 PM
euro911   I feel for ya, Forrest. 'Eileen' (Westfali...   Oct 24 2017, 11:30 PM
jkb944t   Sorry to hear about your streak of bad luck. My -...   Oct 25 2017, 10:41 AM
Steve   It’s also a double negative to tow a German car ...   Oct 25 2017, 01:03 PM
altitude411   It’s also a double negative to tow a German car...   Oct 25 2017, 07:06 PM
DM_2000   Hook up a AC volt meter or oscilloscope to the dis...   Oct 25 2017, 04:03 PM
jim_hoyland   Good luck on this one; when I previously ran MSD, ...   Oct 25 2017, 04:29 PM
worn   Good luck on this one; when I previously ran MSD,...   Oct 25 2017, 05:42 PM
jim_hoyland   Good luck on this one; when I previously ran MSD...   Oct 26 2017, 05:58 AM
porschetub   Seems a few folks have had issues with them and ma...   Oct 25 2017, 06:08 PM
whitetwinturbo   tow the MB with the 914 :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :...   Oct 25 2017, 09:04 PM
Justin Fischer   I had an MSD die on me while driving one day, like...   Oct 25 2017, 09:52 PM
forrestkhaag   Thanks for the advice guys / MSD has agreed to tak...   Oct 27 2017, 10:11 AM
76-914   Thanks for the advice guys / MSD has agreed to ta...   Oct 27 2017, 03:05 PM
forrestkhaag   update: At 4pm MST today, MSD acknowledged that t...   Nov 2 2017, 07:30 PM
porschetub   They are f ing with you Forrest that's why I m...   Nov 2 2017, 10:32 PM
forrestkhaag   Thanks to all for the support and information alon...   Nov 5 2017, 02:24 PM
Steve   Great news!! Missed you this weekend at t...   Nov 5 2017, 02:56 PM
euro911   Run Forrest, run ... :thumbsup:   Nov 5 2017, 05:08 PM
forrestkhaag   Uhoh................... I was driving along heade...   Nov 10 2017, 02:01 PM
76-914   :poke: Eat a few more of those type breakfast a...   Nov 10 2017, 02:28 PM
Jeff Hail   :poke: Eat a few more of those type breakfast ...   Nov 10 2017, 06:58 PM
Larmo63   Does MSD stand for Multi Situational Disfunction? ...   Nov 10 2017, 07:55 PM
porschetub   Does MSD stand for Multi Situational Disfunction?...   Nov 10 2017, 08:28 PM
914_teener   Forrest is not meant to die. :Qarl:   Nov 10 2017, 08:13 PM
Elliot Cannon   None of us will die. It's only a transition. ...   Nov 10 2017, 08:18 PM
914_teener   Nice seeing you at the G&R Ellyut.   Nov 10 2017, 08:24 PM
forrestkhaag   MSD M ine S imply D oesn't........... MSD M ...   Nov 14 2017, 12:05 PM
98101   I’m not even into boats, but this one is beautif...   Nov 25 2017, 07:49 PM
porschetub   I’m not even into boats, but this one is beauti...   Nov 25 2017, 08:20 PM
98101   HHHmmm your car has no power steering or power br...   Nov 25 2017, 09:08 PM
Steve   There’s water in the desert? Glad your car is ru...   Nov 14 2017, 03:15 PM
Larmo63   Ellyut gave me a 914 toy car at the G & R. I ...   Nov 14 2017, 06:06 PM
porschetub   Ellyut gave me a 914 toy car at the G & R. I...   Nov 14 2017, 06:41 PM
Perry Kiehl   Good to know it wasn't on me, whew! Pleas...   Nov 25 2017, 07:23 PM
forrestkhaag   And Steve: Flat Water in the desert lakes and bi...   Nov 27 2017, 06:17 PM
forrestkhaag   And just as an update......... The newly replaced ...   Dec 16 2017, 05:02 PM
colingreene   Thats why we have a spare for the race car on hand...   Dec 16 2017, 09:45 PM
jim_hoyland   I ran two MSDs; both wired to a switch so that eit...   Dec 17 2017, 07:57 AM
forrestkhaag   Hey Jim: Thanks and the fact that MSD would sell ...   Dec 18 2017, 06:31 PM

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