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> Dr Phil’s copper 914 restoration thread- paint and body work on deck- getting fenders fixed and car repainted! New thread to document process, Update:- some finishing touches - constant , never done LOL
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post Oct 28 2017, 11:47 AM
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after 8 years of ownership, and 2 years of rust repair and other such stuff, i am fuinally getting ready to take it to get the fenders repaired the reat of the way and the crappy respray sanded off and car repainted.
i wantes to start a new thread apart from the failed entry into the first rebuild contest. with the help of BillH1963 and a friend of his (Mike) i hope to have this done in 2 months!

i am pulling this motor and transmission today.
stripping car down this week and next week taking bare car with windows out, interior out, up to Mikes shop up near Columbia SC.

They will be sanding it down by hand to the original primer and fixing and missed rust etc not repaired last year- as previously documented the floor pan rust jack points longs and pedal area were all repaired by Chis and Ed at Tangerine Racing in 2016. they also repaire the fender lips that were bent and damaged and massaged the rear fenders out to get room for the 7" fuchs. Now those will be smoothed out the rest of the way.
and a proper match of L99k copper metallic ( goimg with the PPG - thanks for advice on this from Bill Dunster!

will document this for fun and future reference-
car is original matching numbers 2.0 with appearance group car- but i decided this week
since i have 5 lug etc im goimg to back date the bumpers- none of this ruins originality as far as it cant be undone- i thint it will look better too
so here we go!!!


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DRPHIL914
post Nov 13 2017, 11:35 AM
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Guys, I don't have a picture to post - but car was stripped down to the bare except for my dash which was new and installed last year- , I took the car to storage of my new body paint guy- Mike on Saturday- a short 90 minute drive up from beaufort/bluffton . Mike has done work for a few other guys int he area, including billh, and I am confident he is up to the task.

While there I met up with Bill to give him his swag from theOkteenerfest that he missed due to the flooding from the hurricane- so he treated me to a couple drive in some other aircool rides tail-draggers but very cool- Bill - thanks for the awesome rides and I look forward to you having a 914 actually running soon!!!

while cleaning out the wheel wells I found a rust thru spot on passenger side front behind bumper and that will have to be patched, the other was drivers side wheel well but inside the back of front wheel well, at the bottom- Mike says no problem, all will be cleaned out they will be cleaning out all the undercoating out of wheel wells and off the bottom of the car, and all rust spots cut out, cleaned patched and sealed properly!!!

I now have a decision to make- I'm still on the fence for doing bumper back dating- now is the time to do it or never look back , to modify the front now would be best so it gets primed sealed and painted, later would be bad to cut and grind off parts newly painted- so should I or shouldn't I ?? I really would like to do this, I think early bumpers look way better. , lighter etc. even just to do the fiberglass for now and SS later, ( probably cant afford it- )

I'd like some input from the peanut gallery - back date nor not!??

- new parts I need to get:
*new rocker panels- probably RD
* new carpet-
* new side marker lights
* I also need new bright parts- chrome trim for the rear targa sail panels

* new a-pillar and side pillar interior trims needed with front top edg trim that goes under the visors, and rear targa bar trim that goes across inside top edge of targa bar. - has anyone had thse recovered?? I know Mark might eventually but this would really be awesome as Ive already done my seats and dash

- I will also be installing new gauge set I have from Tim, LED etc, inside will be SWEET!
will spend the next few months getting motor cleaned up and sorted out- I have to reseal , replace oil cooler seals, I already have allnew tin, and I have parts coming from Bruce Stone , - I might send the TB out to rebuild,
This car has 150k miles on it just turned over on the Okteenerfest trip- so at some point the motor must have had work done because the leak down and compression numbers are very good. - no need to dig into that, just a freshing up of the cosmetics on top side.

any advice about "while I am in there"?

Thanks!
will post pictures as they start sanding down and repairing stuff, then its prime, block paint -- 3 coats of base and 3 coats of clear , PPG L99K, Copper Metallic!
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Philip W.   Dr Phil’s copper 914 restoration thread- paint and body work on deck- getting fenders fixed and car repainted! New thread to document process   Oct 28 2017, 11:47 AM
billh1963   I'm glad you are getting the paint done. This ...   Oct 28 2017, 11:54 AM
Elliot Cannon   That car looks great right now even with the prime...   Oct 28 2017, 12:22 PM
bulitt   Nice! Seems like yesterday you sent it to Chr...   Oct 28 2017, 02:21 PM
Coondog   Are you going delete the side bulbs ??   Oct 28 2017, 03:45 PM
Philip W.   i knownits been over a year since i got it back fr...   Oct 28 2017, 03:55 PM
mgphoto   i knownits been over a year since i got it back f...   Oct 31 2017, 11:41 AM
mgphoto   i knownits been over a year since i got it back f...   Oct 31 2017, 11:50 AM
Philip W.   found this- so i guess the rear foor pan at the fi...   Oct 28 2017, 04:16 PM
Philip W.   hell hole is full of junk - but no rust!   Oct 28 2017, 04:31 PM
Philip W.   this is a pleasant suprise, no rust but huge chunk...   Oct 28 2017, 05:12 PM
Philip W.   Owner 1- Philip DeVore , October 24 1975 LAST own...   Oct 28 2017, 05:46 PM
rick 918-S   Love that color :drooley:   Oct 29 2017, 07:13 AM
Cairo94507   Congratulations on moving your car along to paint....   Oct 29 2017, 07:24 AM
Shadowfax   Exciting! Am a bit envious as I’d love to re...   Oct 29 2017, 08:01 AM
Philip W.   the color has grown on me for sure, Yesterday i w...   Oct 29 2017, 08:33 AM
Dion   Good luck Philip. Subscribed.   Oct 29 2017, 08:59 AM
whitetwinturbo   For old times sake.............paint the 'frid...   Oct 31 2017, 11:13 AM
mepstein   when i pulled the engine on my 4, i jacked up the ...   Oct 31 2017, 12:34 PM
Philip W.   so last night I did a dry run fit to see if jack g...   Oct 31 2017, 01:36 PM
Philip W.   using the bracket from tangerine - it went well ex...   Nov 4 2017, 07:57 PM
Racer Chris   using the bracket from tangerine - So you didn...   Nov 8 2017, 07:23 AM
Philip W.   using the bracket from tangerine - So you didn...   Nov 8 2017, 12:45 PM
Philip W.   and out-   Nov 4 2017, 07:58 PM
Philip W.   i dont normally do pictures of myself , thought it...   Nov 4 2017, 08:12 PM
Philip W.   how does one remove the rear bumper cover?   Nov 4 2017, 08:16 PM
Philip W.   also need a better picture of how the bar is suppo...   Nov 4 2017, 08:32 PM
914Sixer   BUB come off with two bolts each. Disconnect and ...   Nov 5 2017, 08:14 AM
Philip W.   BUB come off with two bolts each. Disconnect and...   Nov 5 2017, 05:16 PM
Philip W.   also i have the window trim off - completely loose...   Nov 5 2017, 05:20 PM
Philip W.   interior partly out   Nov 5 2017, 05:32 PM
Philip W.   one small sopt of rust thru on the targa area on ...   Nov 5 2017, 05:37 PM
Philip W.   rear window out, no rust surprises here , pretty c...   Nov 5 2017, 06:08 PM
mepstein   The sails had foam so they rust from the inside ou...   Nov 5 2017, 06:08 PM
Philip W.   The sails had foam so they rust from the inside o...   Nov 5 2017, 06:11 PM
Philip W.   more good news!! window is out , no rust u...   Nov 7 2017, 06:28 PM
Perry Kiehl   Lookin' good Phil! Looks like you are doi...   Nov 7 2017, 08:52 PM
Philip W.   Perry, i've been encouraged by finding less r...   Nov 7 2017, 09:37 PM
Philip W.   just a reminder of some of the challenges along th...   Nov 7 2017, 09:42 PM
billh1963   Phil, Was good seeing you Saturday! Thank you ...   Nov 12 2017, 04:34 PM
Philip W.   Guys, I don't have a picture to post - but car...   Nov 13 2017, 11:35 AM
mepstein   If you think the early bumpers look way better, do...   Nov 13 2017, 12:20 PM
Philip W.   If you think the early bumpers look way better, d...   Nov 16 2017, 10:20 AM
Philip W.   also I found that pelican has some of the chrome ...   Nov 16 2017, 10:27 AM
Cairo94507   Hi Phillip, I think you will be very happy with t...   Nov 17 2017, 07:32 AM
Philip W.   will be looking for bumpers to back date with - un...   Nov 27 2017, 08:47 AM
Coondog   Congrats on your decision to back date your bumper...   Nov 27 2017, 09:23 AM
AZBanks   :ttiwwp:   Nov 27 2017, 09:56 AM
Coondog   :ttiwwp: Really !!!! I coun...   Nov 27 2017, 10:06 AM
Philip W.   :ttiwwp: Really !!!! I cou...   Nov 27 2017, 11:03 AM
Larmo63   Backdate now, you'll be so glad you did.   Nov 27 2017, 10:10 AM
Philip W.   mess and a bit of rust in the fender wells behind ...   Nov 27 2017, 11:05 AM
Philip W.   original copper undwr the window trim show the dif...   Nov 27 2017, 11:07 AM
Philip W.   front foot well with the foam out, this will all g...   Nov 27 2017, 11:08 AM
Philip W.   can you name that wire??   Nov 27 2017, 11:09 AM
mepstein   can you name that wire?? Erg wire   Nov 27 2017, 01:44 PM
Philip W.   can you name that wire?? Erg wire Winner...   Nov 27 2017, 02:10 PM
Philip W.   progress! finally some pictures to post old ...   Dec 19 2017, 09:45 PM
Philip W.   update coming! car should be ready for paint i...   Feb 22 2018, 02:05 PM
Philip W.   been working on getting all my bits together for t...   Mar 5 2018, 07:01 AM
Philip W.   dirty motor   Mar 5 2018, 07:28 AM
Philip W.   so dirty, lots of undercoating spray and 40 years ...   Mar 5 2018, 07:37 AM
Philip W.   so much nicer !   Mar 5 2018, 07:40 AM
Philip W.   shroud back on but the Alternator cover i got is ...   Mar 5 2018, 07:43 AM
Philip W.   assembling the new clean runners with zinc plates ...   Mar 5 2018, 07:47 AM
Philip W.   new motor mounts and brackets   Mar 5 2018, 07:48 AM
Philip W.   i ulled the oil cooler to put in new seals ans als...   Mar 5 2018, 07:54 AM
Philip W.   thanks 914 rubber for another great part   Mar 5 2018, 07:56 AM
Philip W.   bumpers!   Mar 5 2018, 08:00 AM
Philip W.   feont bumper with top- i have 2 now ans will have ...   Mar 5 2018, 08:09 AM
Philip W.   this one has the holes for bunper guards and has a...   Mar 5 2018, 08:12 AM
Philip W.   new door panels! these are really like new its...   Mar 5 2018, 08:13 AM
Philip W.   and an undamaged drivers pocket   Mar 5 2018, 08:14 AM
Philip W.   so new door, was way better than the old ine with ...   Mar 7 2018, 01:05 PM
Mblizzard   Amazing Progress! will be the star of Okteen...   Mar 7 2018, 02:27 PM
Philip W.   i will be helping with the bumper back date this w...   Mar 7 2018, 02:48 PM
rhodyguy   #66 is a great example of the brackets/mounts as p...   Mar 7 2018, 03:17 PM
rhodyguy   will this one work for you Phil? came off of a 1.7...   Mar 7 2018, 06:11 PM
mepstein   What color?   Mar 7 2018, 07:07 PM
Philip W.   What color? what color is the car going to be?? ...   Mar 7 2018, 09:06 PM
Philip W.   will this one work for you Phil? came off of a 1....   Mar 7 2018, 09:07 PM
Philip W.   did the back date work on the car today- front was...   Mar 10 2018, 05:06 PM
Philip W.   holes primmed ans side brackets taken off, ground ...   Mar 10 2018, 05:08 PM
Philip W.   boy these fenders look great! almost done- Mik...   Mar 10 2018, 05:13 PM
Philip W.   other side- - thats it until i get the tin back in...   Mar 10 2018, 05:15 PM
pete000   That color is going look fantastic with the chrome...   Mar 10 2018, 05:45 PM
Philip W.   got a bit more done with motor tin over the weeken...   Mar 19 2018, 09:17 AM
Mblizzard   got a bit more done with motor tin over the weeke...   Mar 19 2018, 09:54 AM
Philip W.   got a bit more done with motor tin over the week...   Mar 19 2018, 12:03 PM
914 7T3   - every day I wake up thinking of things to sou...   Mar 19 2018, 07:40 PM
Philip W.   these 2 pictures you can see the bend or crease of...   Mar 19 2018, 12:07 PM
Philip W.   rusty long on passenger side and drivers side   Mar 19 2018, 12:09 PM
Philip W.   removal process began - drivers side half floor pa...   Mar 19 2018, 12:11 PM
Philip W.   fender lip repair, then worked some by Ed to get m...   Mar 19 2018, 12:14 PM
Philip W.   a few more pictures of the long and jack points re...   Mar 19 2018, 12:17 PM
Philip W.   will get more off the phone later, - back to work...   Mar 19 2018, 12:18 PM
Philip W.   out with old and in with new, new zinc plates part...   Mar 19 2018, 04:05 PM
Mblizzard   out with old and in with new, new zinc plates par...   Mar 19 2018, 05:14 PM
Philip W.   i will bet this throttle body didnt look this good...   Apr 3 2018, 10:08 PM
Philip W.   just talked to mike, touch up and repairs done wel...   Apr 4 2018, 08:29 AM
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