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ATTN: Clay Perrine |
adamd1514 |
May 24 2005, 03:44 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 16-May 05 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 4,083 |
I was told by another member you knew the most about AFC. Since I have a 1974 1.8 L-jet I was hoping you'd read through my thread and offer a suggestion.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...f=2&t=31419&hl= |
ArtechnikA |
May 24 2005, 03:50 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
specifically, what i suggested you do was click the "Members" link, type "Clay", select "Name begins with" and click "Go!" to obtain the list of all members whose names begin with "Clay."
there's only one... and then send him a PM with the thread link... this way will probably work too, but it's not nearly as elegant... |
SirAndy |
May 24 2005, 04:36 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
for the computer challanged ...
click here to send Clay a PM ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) Andy |
jim912928 |
May 24 2005, 05:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,485 Joined: 8-January 04 From: Granger, IN Member No.: 1,536 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Adam,
I also have a 1.8l ljet (75) and had to do all the FI sorting out last year (bought the car non-running). So shoot me a pm also with your issues and I'll also offer some diagnostic advice. Jim p.s. it purrs like a kitten now! |
Cap'n Krusty |
May 24 2005, 05:15 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
I've been working on L-jet since mid 1973, and wen't to school on it. Betcha we can solve your problem! The Cap'n
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double-a |
May 24 2005, 08:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 987 Joined: 15-September 03 From: vancouver, wa, usa Member No.: 1,162 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
there are those on this board, not necessarily myself, who know just about everything worth knowing about those engines... and even some stuff that's not worth knowing. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
i bought a non-running 75 1.8 with stock injection in december, and (with help) have nursed it back to perfect running condition. today, i made a 300 mile round trip to the oregon coast and back, just me and our 2 1/2 year old boy. fun stuff! ~a |
bd1308 |
May 24 2005, 10:56 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
i think its funny that everyone else EXCEPT clay responded......
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ArtechnikA |
May 25 2005, 07:11 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
and that none of them has actually addressed the specific issue, which has nothing to do with the engine, nor the L-Jet injection, but rather the wiring of the ignition through the various relays... |
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Gint |
May 25 2005, 08:05 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,075 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) Either in this thread or the original thread. |
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ArtechnikA |
May 25 2005, 08:21 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
this is from the original thread:
that involves specifics of the '74's wiring about which i know nothing. that post was followed by several replies that talked about ignition issues, but were nonresponsive on the point of the relays and the general wiring. and since (IIRC) this was a car with an engine compartment fire that toasted a lot of the wiring, IMO it's not safe to simply assume that any of the wiring in place is like it's supposed to be. some of these issues are are enough to resolve when the wiring is known to be correct, but this case presents a few more challenges... |
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tat2dphreak |
May 25 2005, 08:36 AM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
since this is the "everyone BUT Clay" thread, I wanted to respond and say I know nothing about the issue either... thanks.
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Trekkor |
May 25 2005, 08:44 AM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Years ago when I had a 1.8 there was a simple test that could be performed from eletrical point to point on the relay board and air flow meter. The head temp, and the one under the plenum have to be in spec as well.
I don't have the details in front of me. The Haynes has a decent troubleshooter. I have a spare relay board and AFM from a '74 1.8 if needed. KT |
bd1308 |
May 25 2005, 08:52 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
yeah i think thats the best plan. It seems like the board is faulty or something. Actually, I hear less crap about AFC engines anyway. Is it because it's less faulty or it simply that the engine combo is rare?
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adamd1514 |
May 25 2005, 09:40 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 16-May 05 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 4,083 |
Thanks for the all the posts, My years almost over at school so ill try to get some PM's out in a few days once I have the chance to get back to it.
Thanks, Adam |
vmills |
May 25 2005, 11:48 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 5-May 05 From: Andover, MA\Watertown, WI Member No.: 4,033 |
When do you finish classes Adam? I have 3 tomorrow and 1 friday then i'm doonnnnneeeeeee. I'll be home for 2 days I think. Monday night, tuesday, wednesday, and we leave thursday morning.
by the way, this forum is pretty sweet. You guys all seem nice and extremely knowledgable. vic |
ArtechnikA |
May 25 2005, 11:51 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
it's all an act :-) |
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lapuwali |
May 25 2005, 12:09 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
As I recall, the original thread simply said there was no spark. I didn't see anything to suggest that the usual checks of the usual ignition parts were checked before anyone started to tear into the relay board and associated wiring.
IMHO, when diagnosing electrical problems, you always have to start at one end of a circuit and work along it. If you ensure the one circuit you're looking at is correct from end to end, you can ignore it and move to the next likely circuit. This goes triple if the car has been hacked up after something like a fire, so the wiring may no longer match any factory diagram, which makes the diagrams pretty much useless. It also makes junction points like the relay board much harder to diagnose, because it may be bypassed or wired up in a totally different way. If you follow each circuit end to end, you don't even need a wiring diagram. Divide and conquer: power at coil? No? Power at the ignition switch? No? (problem is between the battery and the ignition switch) Yes? (problem is between the ignition switch and the coil) |
ClayPerrine |
May 25 2005, 12:12 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,474 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
OK! OK! I am here.....
Now what is the problem? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) |
ArtechnikA |
May 25 2005, 01:32 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
'74. no spark. electrical weirdnesses. read the referred thread at the top of this thread and you'll be up to speed... |
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