OT: HF welding helmets, Any good? Stay away? Recommendations? |
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OT: HF welding helmets, Any good? Stay away? Recommendations? |
mgphoto |
Nov 2 2017, 07:55 AM
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" Group: Members Posts: 1,339 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California |
spend a few extra dollars and get a better helmet. I bought and used the HF for a while, was ok but I bought a better helmet, when the batteries gave out and everything got better, even got some cheeter lenses for close up work. I should have bought the better one at first.
When your done, you can sell the better helmet off, used HF helmets aren't worth much. |
mb911 |
Nov 2 2017, 07:57 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,871 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Heavy use is a very interesting term.. I have taught welding for about 20 years so I have seen it all.. Heavy use is 40 hours a week welding . that is no place for HF garbage.. Anyone worth it in the industry welds with quality helmets because last I heard eye transplants were kind of painful.. So for a tradesmen 40dollars versus 300 is a no brainer..
Now for a weekend warrior like 99% of the folks on the forum's a 40 dollar helmet works just fine.. Even people doing restorations are Probably fine. The Arc time is so limited as for the most part they are just plug welding then spend the 40 bucks and your fine but spend the other 27 dollars on an lpr-100 miller respirator or the likes that fits under the helmet.. I am often suprised how much we neglect our health in these conversations.. Here is my son using a respirator and a 300 dollar helmet.. |
mb911 |
Nov 2 2017, 07:58 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,871 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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PlantMan |
Nov 2 2017, 08:09 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 438 Joined: 14-May 14 From: Mission Viejo Member No.: 17,352 Region Association: Southern California |
I see that Eastwood has a panoramic helmet now with a very large viewing area. Not sure how practical this is but a neat idea.....runs around $200.
I spent a little over $100 for my last helmet and it was a enormous improvement over the cheaper HF type. I don't weld a lot but the quality of my work has improved. |
JOEPROPER |
Nov 2 2017, 08:16 AM
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The answer is "no" unless you ask... Group: Members Posts: 1,184 Joined: 21-November 15 From: White Plains New York Member No.: 19,387 Region Association: North East States |
You're right Ben, I never thought about a respirator. So, I just ordered one with extra filter and case. About $60 bucks well spent. Thanks!
lpr-100 miller respirator |
ValcoOscar |
Nov 2 2017, 09:21 AM
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Garage Life Group: Members Posts: 2,388 Joined: 19-November 13 From: SoCal Member No.: 16,669 Region Association: Southern California |
As a Miller / Lincoln Electric vendor I would get a lot of grief if I had these HF helmets in my shop..then again I have two HF Helmets at home that I have used sparingly and they have never let me down....4 years and going strong.
My 2 cents...Great for occasional use, probably not recommended for the professional / full-time welder. Oscar |
mb911 |
Nov 2 2017, 09:22 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,871 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
As a Miller / Lincoln Electric vendor I would get a lot of grief if I had these HF helmets in my shop..then again I have two HF Helmets at home that I have used sparingly and they have never let me down....4 years and going strong. My 2 cents...Great for occasional use, probably not recommended for the professional / full-time welder. Oscar (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
mgp4591 |
Nov 2 2017, 10:22 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,379 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
As a Miller / Lincoln Electric vendor I would get a lot of grief if I had these HF helmets in my shop..then again I have two HF Helmets at home that I have used sparingly and they have never let me down....4 years and going strong. My 2 cents...Great for occasional use, probably not recommended for the professional / full-time welder. Oscar (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) It's like tools because it IS a tool. For home use some of your less expensive tools will work fine but working 10 hrs a day, 5 days a week for 30 years like I did I always used the best. I'd buy the cheap stuff from pawn shops to modify for the odd angles and stuff but my bread and butter tools were top shelf. And middle shelf. In fact all of my shelves were full of the good stuff! |
seanpaulmc |
Nov 2 2017, 10:56 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 303 Joined: 6-December 16 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 20,649 Region Association: South East States |
Eye protection it is. I do not want to take chances with eye safety, and why I wanted to ask on here. I knew you guys would give great recommendations. Will look for a good quality welding helmet. Thank you all!
Respirator? I had never given that a thought before. I am not used to seeing people use them, but I can see why that is a sensible recommendation. Will do that too. -Sean |
mb911 |
Nov 2 2017, 11:27 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,871 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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sithot |
Nov 2 2017, 01:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 446 Joined: 25-October 06 From: Virginia Member No.: 7,090 Region Association: None |
Respirator? I had never given that a thought before. I am not used to seeing people use them, but I can see why that is a sensible recommendation. Will do that too. -Sean A friend who is a certified pressure vessel welder recommends them to all of his students. He said his "FEV" (Forced Expiration Volume) isn't as good as when he was young man. Good ventilation will help and if you aren't doing it day in and day out I wouldn't be too concerned. It is, however, a good idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyIRpS3ZdQ4...eature=youtu.be |
Andyrew |
Nov 2 2017, 01:57 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
I make it a habit to try and put a fan behind me when I am welding for any length of time.
Most respirators do not fit under a helmet, IMHO this is a decent solution to the toxic gases being released. |
mb911 |
Nov 2 2017, 03:35 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,871 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I make it a habit to try and put a fan behind me when I am welding for any length of time. Most respirators do not fit under a helmet, IMHO this is a decent solution to the toxic gases being released. Thats whats nice about the lpr 100.. Fits right under the helmet.. All of my students get them as required equipment.. |
burton73 |
Nov 2 2017, 03:51 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,538 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
I make it a habit to try and put a fan behind me when I am welding for any length of time. Most respirators do not fit under a helmet, IMHO this is a decent solution to the toxic gases being released. I do the same thing and have an exhaust fan to outside. Bob B (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) |
914forme |
Nov 2 2017, 03:53 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
While not as good as the above respirators these do work, and look (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) after a long welding sessions.
I know have proper ventilation and filtering system that you Scott (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) but still keep a few of these around when I can't weld in the shop, fits under the mask just fine. I also upgraded from my Miller helmets as I found them flacking out, and so did my son-in-laws. Between us we went through 4 helmets in 6 months. He was a professional welder, welding pressurized vessels for 60+ hours a week. I went with a Jackson Safety mask, night and day difference over the Millers. After I ordered that one, my Brother-In-law got a job at the local welding supply shop. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Could have gotten one on discount. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) |
porschetub |
Nov 2 2017, 05:33 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,703 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
Cheap welding helmets are exactly that,ask me how I know,in most cases the battery fails and you can't change it,I do a lot of welding and treated myself to a good quality one recently,if you are learning to weld you need the advantage that a good helmet offers...end of story.
Arc eye is nasty ,I don't get it easily but when I do I know,if you wear glasses you find the better helmets are a must ,if you buy a cheap helmet you need to consider your eyesight. |
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