Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

2 Pages V  1 2 >  
 Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Rebel Racing front RSR coil overs instead of torsion bars?, Who’s tried them?
Steve
post Nov 6 2017, 08:23 AM
Post #1


914 Guru
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 5,585
Joined: 14-June 03
From: Orange County, CA
Member No.: 822
Region Association: Southern California
Rebel Racing RSR coil overs instead of torsion bars.
Who’s tried them?
http://www.rebelracingproducts.com/914products.html
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
SirAndy
post Nov 6 2017, 12:46 PM
Post #2


Resident German
*************************

Group: Admin
Posts: 41,637
Joined: 21-January 03
From: Oakland, Kalifornia
Member No.: 179
Region Association: Northern California
QUOTE(Steve @ Nov 6 2017, 06:23 AM) *

Rebel Racing RSR coil overs instead of torsion bars.
Who’s tried them?
http://www.rebelracingproducts.com/914products.html

That seems surprisingly affordable ...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Steve
post Nov 6 2017, 12:50 PM
Post #3


914 Guru
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 5,585
Joined: 14-June 03
From: Orange County, CA
Member No.: 822
Region Association: Southern California
Good reviews on Pelican. Rebel only has a bilstein option versu Elephant also has a Boge strut option.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
raynekat
post Nov 6 2017, 01:14 PM
Post #4


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,158
Joined: 30-December 14
From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho
Member No.: 18,263
Region Association: Pacific Northwest
What is the car's intended use?
If a daily driver, you need to make sure you can get a soft enough spring.
If mostly a track car, then have at it.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Steve
post Nov 6 2017, 02:34 PM
Post #5


914 Guru
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 5,585
Joined: 14-June 03
From: Orange County, CA
Member No.: 822
Region Association: Southern California
QUOTE(raynekat @ Nov 6 2017, 11:14 AM) *

What is the car's intended use?
If a daily driver, you need to make sure you can get a soft enough spring.
If mostly a track car, then have at it.

I’m looking for feed back who have tried it, not the obvious.
Both options support multiple spring rates for street and track.
Feedback from other sites include.
-more spring options
-rides like a modern car or later 911 with front springs.
But these are 911 sites...
I’m looking for 914 references.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
phillstek
post Nov 6 2017, 03:19 PM
Post #6


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 350
Joined: 19-May 10
From: Byron Bay, Australia
Member No.: 11,741
Region Association: None
Don't know about RR coil overs as I have ERs level 3 on my car and I love them. I used to have turbo struts and standard torsion bars and the car was lowered quite a bit. Bump steer was horrendous with that set up but with the ER set up it's no longer an issue. They are very firm and bang pretty loud when hitting lane markers as I also have the solid mounts at the top. Car steers and corners flat with instant turn in response but probably should have chosen level 2 as these would be better on the street.

Hope that's of some help.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
LowBridge
post Nov 6 2017, 04:08 PM
Post #7


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 370
Joined: 10-August 15
From: Lunenburg, MA
Member No.: 19,045
Region Association: North East States
I have the RR coilovers on the rear of my 914 and I really enjoy them. I believe it offers more options when trying to balance the corners. the only thing I would do different is also get the helper springs, it just makes things easier when you are jacking the car up and down.


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
tygaboy
post Nov 6 2017, 04:38 PM
Post #8


914 Guru
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 5,292
Joined: 6-October 15
From: Petaluma, CA
Member No.: 19,241
Region Association: Northern California
QUOTE(phillstek @ Nov 6 2017, 02:19 PM) *

Don't know about RR coil overs as I have ERs level 3 on my car and I love them. I used to have turbo struts and standard torsion bars and the car was lowered quite a bit. Bump steer was horrendous with that set up but with the ER set up it's no longer an issue. They are very firm and bang pretty loud when hitting lane markers as I also have the solid mounts at the top. Car steers and corners flat with instant turn in response but probably should have chosen level 2 as these would be better on the street.

Hope that's of some help.


Great to hear as I've been talking with Elephant about their front coil over set up. Still not sure if I'd go Level 1 or Level 2.

Question: I have the Elephant Quick Change camber plates so I'm curious: Do you think your "lane marker bang" is related mostly to the Level 3 valving vs. the solid top mounts?

Thanks in advance...
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Dave_Darling
post Nov 6 2017, 05:03 PM
Post #9


914 Idiot
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 14,985
Joined: 9-January 03
From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona
Member No.: 121
Region Association: Northern California
I have heard that it is a good idea to reinforce the strut towers when changing any torsion-bar Porsche to coilovers. No direct data myself.

--DD
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Larmo63
post Nov 6 2017, 05:30 PM
Post #10


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4,264
Joined: 3-March 14
From: San Clemente, Ca
Member No.: 17,068
Region Association: Southern California
Raised spindles, bump steer kit, and coil-overs will be expensive. You might get new shocks too and some new goodies for the camber plates. I've only looked at both Elephant and Rebel Racing's websites on this very subject about a thousand times.

Reinforcing shock towers is getting into kooky (but cool) territory. I know it's only money, but it seems like one thing leads to another...."while I was in there"
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
phillstek
post Nov 6 2017, 06:56 PM
Post #11


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 350
Joined: 19-May 10
From: Byron Bay, Australia
Member No.: 11,741
Region Association: None
QUOTE(tygaboy @ Nov 7 2017, 09:38 AM) *
Don't know about RR coil overs as I have ERs level 3 on my car and I love them. I used to have turbo struts and standard torsion bars and the car was lowered quite a bit. Bump steer was horrendous with that set up but with the ER set up it's no longer an issue. They are very firm and bang pretty loud when hitting lane markers as I also have the solid mounts at the top. Car steers and corners flat with instant turn in response but probably should have chosen level 2 as these would be better on the street.

Hope that's of some help.


Great to hear as I've been talking with Elephant about their front coil over set up. Still not sure if I'd go Level 1 or Level 2.

Question: I have the Elephant Quick Change camber plates so I'm curious: Do you think your "lane marker bang" is related mostly to the Level 3 valving vs. the solid top mounts?

Definitely the solid camber plates making the noise.


'I have heard that it is a good idea to reinforce the strut towers when changing any torsion-bar Porsche to coilovers. No direct data myself’


You mentioned this possibility when I posted about these some time ago. They’ve been on the car for over 10,000 miles now and I check them regularly. Car is driven over shitty Aussie roads including dirt, so far there is absolutely no sign of stress fractures or metal fatigue.


Attached image(s)
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
jim_hoyland
post Nov 6 2017, 08:22 PM
Post #12


Get that VIN ?
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 9,294
Joined: 1-May 03
From: Sunset Beach, CA
Member No.: 643
Region Association: Southern California
I am looking at doing this too.....
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Montreal914
post Nov 6 2017, 08:50 PM
Post #13


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,558
Joined: 8-August 10
From: Claremont, CA
Member No.: 12,023
Region Association: Southern California
OT, but looking at their catalog, they also have the aluminum Brembo (S equivalent) front Calipers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Attached Image
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
gms
post Nov 6 2017, 10:35 PM
Post #14


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,695
Joined: 12-March 04
From: Chicagoland
Member No.: 1,785
Region Association: Upper MidWest
I have 935 coil over struts on the race car and love them!

Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
euro911
post Nov 7 2017, 02:03 AM
Post #15


Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up!
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 8,849
Joined: 2-December 06
From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA)
Member No.: 7,300
Region Association: Southern California
They have a nice candy store, don't they?

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
erwan914
post Nov 7 2017, 04:49 AM
Post #16


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 120
Joined: 22-August 12
From: france
Member No.: 14,834
Region Association: None
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Steve
post Nov 7 2017, 08:14 AM
Post #17


914 Guru
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 5,585
Joined: 14-June 03
From: Orange County, CA
Member No.: 822
Region Association: Southern California
Thanks for the feedback.
Are you guys still running torsion bars with the springs?
If you run springs without torsion bars, did you do anything special with the “A” arms?
I noticed one guy on pelican still installed the RSR $350.00 bushings.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
infraredcalvin
post Nov 7 2017, 08:49 AM
Post #18


Distracted Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,515
Joined: 25-August 08
From: Ladera Ranch, CA
Member No.: 9,463
Region Association: Southern California
I’ve never understood why people get coilovers and still use torsion bars. It’s extra weight (albeit lower on the car) coil over ends up being a helper spring... the 930 guys I’ve seen that stared with a combo have quickly changed to coilover only.

If you’re going through the expense of coilovers you should address all the movement components in the assembly - weather its rubber, poly or other is up to you.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
infraredcalvin
post Nov 7 2017, 08:52 AM
Post #19


Distracted Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,515
Joined: 25-August 08
From: Ladera Ranch, CA
Member No.: 9,463
Region Association: Southern California
QUOTE(erwan914 @ Nov 7 2017, 02:49 AM) *

Attached Image


Looks like this hasn’t been on the ground yet, but if so, do you get any binding with the ass vault straps?

Nice looking setup!
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
gms
post Nov 7 2017, 08:44 PM
Post #20


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,695
Joined: 12-March 04
From: Chicagoland
Member No.: 1,785
Region Association: Upper MidWest
QUOTE(infraredcalvin @ Nov 7 2017, 08:49 AM) *

If you’re going through the expense of coilovers you should address all the movement components in the assembly - weather its rubber, poly or other is up to you.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
« Next Oldest · 914World Garage · Next Newest »
 

2 Pages V  1 2 >
Reply to this topicStart new topic
2 User(s) are reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

Display Mode: Standard · Switch to: Linear+ · Switch to: Outline

Track this topic · Email this topic · Print this topic · Subscribe to this forum

- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 15th May 2024 - 03:52 PM
Invision Power Board v9.1.4 © 2024  IPS, Inc.
All rights reserved 914World.com © since 2002
914World.com is the fastest growing online 914 community!
We have it all, classifieds, events, forums, vendors, parts, autocross, racing, technical articles, events calendar, newsletter, restoration, gallery, archives, history and more for your Porsche 914 ...