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911 suspension compatibility question |
jt914 |
Dec 9 2017, 12:09 PM
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I love my914 Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 20-March 14 From: Pinon Hills, CA Member No.: 17,141 Region Association: Southern California |
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Mark Henry |
Dec 9 2017, 12:22 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I think it will, but the sway bar is the underbody type, bit of a hack on a 914.
I have an aftermarket one in my scrap pile. |
mepstein |
Dec 9 2017, 12:54 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
You will need 911 torsion bars, 914's wont fit, different number of splines.
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jt914 |
Dec 9 2017, 01:10 PM
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I love my914 Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 20-March 14 From: Pinon Hills, CA Member No.: 17,141 Region Association: Southern California |
Thank you for the replies guys, this isn't for my car. I have this setup listed for sale and some inquired whether it would work for his project or not so I figured you guys would know. I appreciate it.
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mb911 |
Dec 9 2017, 01:30 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,812 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I know one of the members here runs an underbody sway bar on his GT.. I will also be.
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Dave_Darling |
Dec 9 2017, 02:58 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,981 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Note that the customer will need to find the body brackets for the bar. They add onto the supports that go across the compartment where the steering rack lives.
--DD |
GeorgeRud |
Dec 9 2017, 04:54 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The underbody sway bar will work. Richie Gunther had to run a similar sway bar setup back in the 70s as the SCCA wouldn’t allow the through the body sway bars. They never seemed to like Porsches.
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914Sixer |
Dec 9 2017, 05:53 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,870 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
That set up is 74-up 911. Not recommend unless you are going racing. Bar is way to stiff for everyday use.
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jt914 |
Dec 9 2017, 06:00 PM
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I love my914 Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 20-March 14 From: Pinon Hills, CA Member No.: 17,141 Region Association: Southern California |
thanks for all the information. much appreciated.
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HIPPIEKILLER |
Dec 10 2017, 01:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: 25-July 17 From: Huntington Beach, CA Member No.: 21,286 Region Association: Southern California |
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mepstein |
Dec 10 2017, 01:27 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
That set up is 74-up 911. Not recommend unless you are going racing. Bar is way to stiff for everyday use. However it was used as stock in 911s. Were they also too stiff? I do not want to make a mistake. Thanks! 911's are much heavier cars so the suspension doesn't always translate perfectly to a 914. the torsion bars and sway bars are stiffer on the 911 and can make for an overly stiff ride on a 914-4 thats not destined for track use. Everybody has there own preferences, driving style and road conditions but bigger isn't always better if you want a comfortable ride. |
jpnovak |
Dec 10 2017, 02:29 PM
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They call me "Nanoman" Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 26-August 09 From: Austin TX Member No.: 10,736 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Those are 74-89 underbody sway bars. These will only work if you have the aluminum cross-member, rear tie-connectors and underbody specific sway bar bushing brackets that mount to the rear tie connectors.
You need the full system to run that sway bar. The a-arms by themselves will work. If you want to run a through-body sway bar, cut off the sway bar mounts and have the new drop link mount welded (better) or bolted in place. |
914Sixer |
Dec 10 2017, 02:32 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,870 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
About 600 lb difference between 911 and 914.
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Chris914n6 |
Dec 10 2017, 10:16 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,304 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Those are 74-89 underbody sway bars. These will only work if you have the aluminum cross-member, rear tie-connectors and underbody specific sway bar bushing brackets that mount to the rear tie connectors. You need the full system to run that sway bar. I beg to differ. I just drilled and threaded a hole for the mounting bracket into the steel crossmember. I kept the steel tube crossmember because if fit better with the rad hoses, otherwise stock 911 susp. |
bdstone914 |
Dec 11 2017, 08:23 AM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,512 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
That set up is 74-up 911. Not recommend unless you are going racing. Bar is way to stiff for everyday use. However it was used as stock in 911s. Were they also too stiff? I do not want to make a mistake. Thanks! The compatible of the bar depends on the sum of all the suspension components and car configuration and use. Underbody sway bars come in 20 and 22mm. Due to the different fulcrum pivot distances the 20mm underbody is not as stiff as a 20mm through body sway bar. If you go with the 911 torsion bars you now have stiffer torsion bars. Rear springs should probably be stiffer than stock. From my experience a 20mm is not too stiff for the street. If you want to stay with stock six torsion bars I have a pair that are from a SWB 911 and are the same size as 914 but will work in the 911 A arms with the loops for the sway bar. |
bdstone914 |
Dec 11 2017, 08:24 AM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,512 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
[quote name='jpnovak' date='Dec 10 2017, 02:29 PM' post='2556568']
Those are 74-89 underbody sway bars. These will only work if you have the aluminum cross-member, rear tie-connectors and underbody specific sway bar bushing brackets that mount to the rear tie connectors. You need the full system to run that sway bar. Sorry, you are totally wrong on the sway bar. |
Mark Henry |
Dec 11 2017, 01:11 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I have an aftermarket one in my scrap pile. I've had a couple of guys have asked about my scrap pile sway bar, I doubt if I can find it as my scrap pile is now 20' round x 8' deep, likely several tons. Every 4-5 years I take it in and use the cash to help pay for a holiday. maybe I can find it then, but it's highly doubtful if it will be complete. I believe it's an Amco aftermarket bar, in fact I had both front and rear. I do know where the rear bar is but not the hardware. It's a real hacky POS. |
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