Price check - Complete set of factory shop manuals, Red binders, Excellent condition |
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Price check - Complete set of factory shop manuals, Red binders, Excellent condition |
JeffBowlsby |
Dec 12 2017, 11:28 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,478 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
Considering the other available sources for this information, what are these realistically worth these days?
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raynekat |
Dec 13 2017, 12:43 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,154 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Here's a set on Ebay for $975.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-1976-Porsche-...dRK&vxp=mtr Don't see a lot of bidding though. Individual manuals for $500.....ha. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-PORSCHE-914-9...Xf0&vxp=mtr https://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-PORSCHE-914-9...Xhs&vxp=mtr Another for $195 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Factory-Original-P...KYg&vxp=mtr I guess you get the picture. I don't see all that many any more, so the asking price is sky high. |
Jett |
Dec 13 2017, 02:19 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,635 Joined: 27-July 14 From: Seattle Member No.: 17,686 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I recently bought an ok condition set for $300 and was happy with that price.
eBay recently sold to nice sets for $495 and $538. Hope this helps. |
RenoRoger |
Dec 13 2017, 02:46 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 11-November 10 From: Reno, NV Member No.: 12,370 Region Association: Northern California |
[quote name='Jett' date='Dec 13 2017, 12:19 AM' post='2557273']
I recently bought an ok condition set for $300 and was happy with that price. eBay recently sold to nice sets for $495 and $538. Hope this helps. Wasn't there someone in Canada selling one on a CD for less than $100? copyright violation? |
IronHillRestorations |
Dec 13 2017, 06:22 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,714 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
As you can expect it's all about condition. $450-$600??
My own opinion would be, all things equal, the earliest version with the grommet in the pull holes should be worth a bit more, but that's just me (mine are the later ones). Us older guys like the hard copies of service manuals, but I do like being able to print out a copy of a page I need to take to the shop vrs my old method of photo copying that page |
dcheek |
Dec 13 2017, 06:45 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
Considering the other available sources for this information, what are these realistically worth these days? While having a set of factory manuals might suggest that you will have all the correct information you will ever need to maintain your 914 - you're wrong. I've barely used mine and, some of the information and procedures are wrong. I've found that that the internet, namely Peilcan, Youtube and this forum has been way more helpful than the factory manuals. Remember, the publications proceeded the internet and as a result, were the only source for maintenance procedures, and was better than nothing. If you want something really valuable, purchase a factory 914 parts listing. They are available on Ebay in notebook form for about $80. They exploded views are helpful when re-assembling a project. Dave |
Mark Henry |
Dec 13 2017, 07:43 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Wasn't there someone in Canada selling one on a CD for less than $100? copyright violation? Long time ago there was a link here, but I believe someone got the nasty letter. I printed off the manual but it was around 900 pages. All my porsche manuals, right up to 2010 as I do any 911 engine, are on a zip drive now that I always have a laptop in the shop. If I want paper I just print out the job at hand. workshopmanuals(dot)uk(dot)co is a good source for auto manuals by download on ebay. tractors scotland if you're into heavy equipment, got my Fiat 640 manual for $12. |
GeorgeRud |
Dec 13 2017, 08:09 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I have the complete set of printed manuals and parts manual, but they just hold down a shelf. However, they do look great along with my other Porsche themed book and make a wonderful decoration.
The internet’s websites make finding information easy to find (and sometimes even accurate) and YouTube shows you how to accomplish just about any service procedure. |
JeffBowlsby |
Dec 13 2017, 10:07 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,478 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
Thanks all. A grand for an incomplete, tired set is what I would expect to see on ebay...and it will never sell at all being incomplete, or at least no where near that price.
I am thinking in the $200-300 range is the reasonable value to a real buyer for a complete set with the plethora of other free or low cost sources of this information available. |
lalee914 |
Dec 13 2017, 10:13 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 811 Joined: 13-February 13 From: Georgetown, DE Member No.: 15,521 Region Association: North East States |
The 914 workshop manuals are available to download for free if you know where to look....
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scallyk9 |
Dec 13 2017, 11:06 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 318 Joined: 16-October 16 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Member No.: 20,499 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Not so long ago, Stoddard had complete sets (8 notebooks) for sale at $400 something. I paid around that for a set in excellent condition on eBay before that. Check out the Stoddard website.
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Mark Henry |
Dec 13 2017, 11:42 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Considering the other available sources for this information, what are these realistically worth these days? While having a set of factory manuals might suggest that you will have all the correct information you will ever need to maintain your 914 - you're wrong. I've barely used mine and, some of the information and procedures are wrong. I've found that that the internet, namely Peilcan, Youtube and this forum has been way more helpful than the factory manuals. Remember, the publications proceeded the internet and as a result, were the only source for maintenance procedures, and was better than nothing. If you want something really valuable, purchase a factory 914 parts listing. They are available on Ebay in notebook form for about $80. They exploded views are helpful when re-assembling a project. Dave The factory manuals are very valuable, but they are written by a herd of dyslexic cats. The factory parts listings is referred to as the PET and I agree it's a good resource. |
Mark Henry |
Dec 13 2017, 11:44 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
The 914 workshop manuals are available to download for free if you know where to look.... Google it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
11tenths |
Dec 13 2017, 11:58 AM
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Ve get too soon old, und too late schmart Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 11-October 12 From: Islip, Long Island, NY Member No.: 15,026 Region Association: North East States |
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burton73 |
Dec 13 2017, 01:02 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,498 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
Back in the day I had a red set for 70 911 but bought these gray covered set 10 years ago for $350. On EBay. I lost one.
Are they reprints? Bob B (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) Am I the sheep |
SKL1 |
Dec 13 2017, 02:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,597 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Glad I got the complete set, and parts catalog, way back in the early to mid '70's when I got the '71.
As noted above, I find the parts catalog more useful when working on the cars. Of course, with the internet now you realisticallly don't really need them as much. Just fun to have them on your book shelf... |
GeorgeRud |
Dec 13 2017, 05:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Just wish there was an easy way to flip through the PET (at least on the iPad I use). Scrolling through all those pages isn’t quick.
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raynekat |
Dec 13 2017, 06:09 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,154 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Stoddard's has the full set for $416. Seems like a fair price. Ebay prices are crazy.
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mgphoto |
Dec 13 2017, 07:15 PM
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California |
Original sets have the metal ring around the pull hole, they may have the porsche crest on the spine in color.
Reprinted by the factory, later versions do not have the ring and have a black and white crest without a lot of definition. The factory reprints have all the updates whereas the originals needed to updated manually. The Reprinted version also lacks definition, in the images, they may have used the same printing plates. I trust the factory manuals, all of the third party manuals use the factory photographs. The text was written by someone who's native language is not English, but you get the gist... |
mgphoto |
Dec 13 2017, 07:16 PM
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California |
Back in the day I had a red set for 70 911 but bought these gray covered set 10 years ago for $350. On EBay. I lost one. Are they reprints? Bob B (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) Am I the sheep 944 binders, I believe. |
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