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> OT: where to buy American made tools, Sears is going bust!
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post Jan 5 2018, 08:20 PM
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So where are people buying American made tools now that Sears is going out of business? I realize they haven't made them in America for a few years, but they did. Most of my Craftsman tools are made in the US. If I ever have any warranty returns, I'm going to likely get made in China stuff.
Home Depot, harbor freight and Lowe's get most of their stuff from China.
I suppose I could go to a swap meet, but those tools are pretty beat up.
SK makes good stuff but it's expensive.
I've bought a few Proto tools and they seem good.
What does everyone else plan to do?
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post Jan 6 2018, 12:34 PM
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All USA made Craftsman Tools at least 25 years old. See if you can figure out what's wrong with them before scrolling down for the answer(s).

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1. 1/2" drive, 15mm, 36 point socket (this was supposed to be a 12 point socket but got forged 3 times)

2. Round drive, 5/8, 12 point socket (this one missed getting forged on the 1/2" drive end)

3. Can you guess what this is? It came in a package with other 1/2" drive sockets

4. 3/8" drive, 3/8", 12 point socket (the 3/8" drive end and the socket end are reversed and the drive end walls are now very thin)

5. 3/8" Drive, 7/16", 12 point socket (this one got forged as a 6pt socket twice)

6. Round drive, 14mm, 6 point socket (this one missed getting forged on the 3/8" drive end)

7. 9/32" drive extension (circa 1935) This one fits nothing that I own. A 1/4" drive socket won't fit on the male end and on the female end it just falls off a 1/4" ratchet. To learn more: http://alloy-artifacts.org/craftsman-early-tools-p3.html

8. #1 Phillips screwdriver. Too bad the phillips blade end got inserted into the handle.

9. 3/8" drive, raw socket. This one did not get embossed with the size or forged on the socket end.

10. 3/8" drive, 3/8", 6 point socket (on the drive end it got forged twice so instead to being square it has 8 points)

11. Open end wrench where the size marking got reversed

12. 3/8" drive, 3/8", round socket (they forgot to forge the socket end on this one)

13. Round drive, 6mm, 6pt socket (The drive end got missed in the forge)

14. Forging flaw that made it all the way through the chroming process (no, this is not a tube wrench)

15. The 5/16 box end of the wrench missed getting forged. Great for turning round nuts

16. This is what happens when you use an 8' pipe as a cheater bar
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post Jan 6 2018, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(NoEcm @ Jan 6 2018, 10:34 AM) *

All USA made Craftsman Tools at least 25 years old. See if you can figure out what's wrong with them before scrolling down for the answer(s).

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.......Breaker bar 1st & 16. doesn't happen!(or 1/2" drive)



























1. 1/2" drive, 15mm, 36 point socket (this was supposed to be a 12 point socket but got forged 3 times)

2. Round drive, 5/8, 12 point socket (this one missed getting forged on the 1/2" drive end)

3. Can you guess what this is? It came in a package with other 1/2" drive sockets

4. 3/8" drive, 3/8", 12 point socket (the 3/8" drive end and the socket end are reversed and the drive end walls are now very thin)

5. 3/8" Drive, 7/16", 12 point socket (this one got forged as a 6pt socket twice)

6. Round drive, 14mm, 6 point socket (this one missed getting forged on the 3/8" drive end)

7. 9/32" drive extension (circa 1935) This one fits nothing that I own. A 1/4" drive socket won't fit on the male end and on the female end it just falls off a 1/4" ratchet. To learn more: http://alloy-artifacts.org/craftsman-early-tools-p3.html

8. #1 Phillips screwdriver. Too bad the phillips blade end got inserted into the handle.

9. 3/8" drive, raw socket. This one did not get embossed with the size or forged on the socket end.

10. 3/8" drive, 3/8", 6 point socket (on the drive end it got forged twice so instead to being square it has 8 points)

11. Open end wrench where the size marking got reversed

12. 3/8" drive, 3/8", round socket (they forgot to forge the socket end on this one)

13. Round drive, 6mm, 6pt socket (The drive end got missed in the forge)

14. Forging flaw that made it all the way through the chroming process (no, this is not a tube wrench)

15. The 5/16 box end of the wrench missed getting forged. Great for turning round nuts

16. This is what happens when you use an 8' pipe as a cheater bar

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914 RZ-1   OT: where to buy American made tools   Jan 5 2018, 08:20 PM
Mark Henry   http://bfy.tw/FtvO   Jan 5 2018, 08:29 PM
sithot   So where are people buying American made tools no...   Jan 5 2018, 08:37 PM
914 RZ-1   This company makes a nice kit I picked up recently...   Jan 7 2018, 03:56 PM
ChapmanMFG   This company makes a nice kit I picked up recently...   Jan 8 2018, 10:34 AM
Chris914n6   Craftsman was bought by Stanley or someone in the ...   Jan 5 2018, 08:56 PM
mepstein   I dont think craftsman has been concidered a quali...   Jan 5 2018, 09:19 PM
Unobtanium-inc   Craftsman was bought by Black and Decker, whose De...   Jan 5 2018, 09:52 PM
Unobtanium-inc   Craftsman was bought by Black and Decker, whose D...   Mar 13 2018, 08:44 PM
somd914   I've been through several of my newer ratchets...   Jan 5 2018, 10:14 PM
burton73   I've been through several of my newer ratchet...   Jan 6 2018, 12:49 PM
Mueller   Craftsman tools to be sold at Lowes sometime this ...   Jan 6 2018, 12:14 AM
somd914   Craftsman tools to be sold at Lowes sometime this...   Jan 6 2018, 06:40 AM
sithot   Craftsman tools to be sold at Lowes sometime thi...   Jan 6 2018, 07:17 AM
somd914   [quote name='somd914' post='2564816' date='Jan 6 ...   Jan 6 2018, 07:22 AM
Aidan   Working in the trades, I always liked Craftsman be...   Jan 6 2018, 02:50 AM
flyer86d   Before I opened my shop, Craftsman tools were fine...   Jan 6 2018, 07:07 AM
rgalla9146   Before I opened my shop, Craftsman tools were fin...   Jan 6 2018, 07:46 AM
mepstein   Before I opened my shop, Craftsman tools were fi...   Jan 6 2018, 08:06 AM
bdstone914   I was told that Kobalt tools sold by Lowes are mad...   Jan 6 2018, 08:03 AM
maf914   I was told that Kobalt tools sold by Lowes are ma...   Jan 6 2018, 08:49 AM
Unobtanium-inc   Snap-on, Mac, and the other higher end tools are o...   Jan 6 2018, 08:16 AM
sithot   Snap-on, Mac, and the other higher end tools are ...   Jan 6 2018, 08:37 AM
saigon71   I agree with the decline in quality of Craftsman t...   Jan 6 2018, 08:20 AM
JOEPROPER   As far as hand tools... Snap-On is the best. Yes,...   Jan 6 2018, 09:20 AM
Jett   +1 snap-on is our choice. We were lucky to get a ...   Jan 6 2018, 09:46 AM
sithot   +1 snap-on is our choice. We were lucky to get a...   Jan 6 2018, 10:03 AM
914 RZ-1   If you find the right Snap On dealer they will ...   Jan 7 2018, 04:00 PM
sithot   [i]If you find the right Snap On dealer they will...   Jan 7 2018, 04:19 PM
The Cabinetmaker   I have used thorsen tools for years. Best end wren...   Jan 6 2018, 10:50 AM
flyer86d   I totally agree with JoeProper. I had more faith i...   Jan 6 2018, 11:38 AM
sithot   I totally agree with JoeProper. I had more faith ...   Jan 6 2018, 11:57 AM
NoEcm   All USA made Craftsman Tools at least 25 years old...   Jan 6 2018, 12:34 PM
Drums66   All USA made Craftsman Tools at least 25 years ol...   Jan 6 2018, 03:55 PM
914 RZ-1   [quote name='NoEcm' date='Jan 6 2018, ...   Jan 7 2018, 04:09 PM
gandalf_025   Snap on is as big a rip off as Harley.. You want t...   Jan 6 2018, 01:43 PM
mepstein   Snap on is as big a rip off as Harley.. You want ...   Jan 6 2018, 02:28 PM
Unobtanium-inc   Snap on is as big a rip off as Harley.. You want...   Jan 6 2018, 02:42 PM
flyer86d   Snap on is as big a rip off as Harley.. You want...   Jan 6 2018, 03:41 PM
914 RZ-1   Snap on is as big a rip off as Harley.. You want...   Jan 7 2018, 04:06 PM
mepstein   [quote name='mepstein' post='2564987' date='Jan 6...   Jan 7 2018, 06:12 PM
Elliot Cannon   I had Snap On tools issued to me when I worked on ...   Jan 6 2018, 04:08 PM
Chris914n6   For the past 30 years, the majority of my hand too...   Jan 6 2018, 09:09 PM
sithot   Chinesium drill bits and these:   Jan 7 2018, 06:50 AM
914 RZ-1   Wow. I had no idea there's be this many replie...   Jan 7 2018, 03:53 PM
Unobtanium-inc   I think a clear distinction needs to be made on wh...   Jan 7 2018, 05:20 PM
NoEcm   This is really interesting! Where'd you g...   Jan 7 2018, 06:01 PM
90quattrocoupe   The majority of my hand tools are Craftsman. I al...   Jan 7 2018, 06:08 PM
somd914   A good friend is an orthopedic surgeon. I enjoy l...   Jan 7 2018, 06:37 PM
sixaddict   :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: Sorry to do this ...   Jan 7 2018, 07:38 PM
MarkV   Nobody has mentioned used tools. Most of my tools ...   Jan 7 2018, 07:50 PM
lalee914   This is an interesting thread. Thought I'd th...   Jan 8 2018, 09:47 AM
Unobtanium-inc   All of the Harbor Freight tools I have ever boug...   Jan 8 2018, 12:32 PM
bulitt   Have owned Craftsman from the late 60's, SK, s...   Jan 8 2018, 12:42 PM
NoEcm   This is what happens if you collect too many tools...   Jan 8 2018, 07:37 PM
jeffdon   My Dad was a Snap on dealer from the 70's unti...   Jan 8 2018, 09:57 PM
strawman   I have been managing public transit systems since ...   Mar 14 2018, 12:07 AM
mepstein   I have been managing public transit systems since...   Mar 14 2018, 08:08 AM
Front yard mechanic   just yesterday I was helping my neighbor with a st...   Mar 14 2018, 07:57 AM
strawman   Last year, I implemented a new Apprentice class in...   Mar 14 2018, 01:59 PM
mgphoto   I took a class at LAUSD and the Snap On rep set up...   Mar 14 2018, 05:11 PM
Grelber   I retired from the electrical channel two years ag...   Mar 14 2018, 06:07 PM
914 RZ-1   I retired from the electrical channel two years a...   Mar 15 2018, 07:26 PM
maf914   [quote name='Grelber' post='2589053' date='Mar 14...   Mar 16 2018, 06:33 AM
Grelber   I retired from the electrical channel two years ...   Mar 16 2018, 06:48 AM
flmont   Try,... ACE hardware   Mar 14 2018, 06:10 PM
maf914   Does the Lowe's Kobalt/Craftsman issue have so...   Mar 18 2018, 05:11 PM
Grelber   No idea. I'll see what I can find out.   Mar 18 2018, 08:30 PM


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