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> Turbo 914 (1.8 type-4), Turbocharging my 1.8 type-4 for a school project... can anyone give me some advice?
holtby914
post Jan 11 2018, 09:21 PM
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hello,

I am an automotive engineering student at the University of Windsor. I am trying to somehow incorporate the restoration of my 914 into my education somehow. After talking to many of my professors a few of them are suggesting I try and turbo the original 1.8l type-4 came in the car. I have the entire case completely apart, down to the crank, and am at the stage where I'm getting ready to start blueprinting this engine. However, it seems that turbo type-4's are not very common, and I do not seem to understand why. I am ready to take on the challenge, however, I would love some advice (combinations, etc.).

I am thinking that I will keep stock crank and rods, and get some JE forged pistons (not sure of size yet). Was also thinking I port the stock heads. However, beyond that, i have planned anything.

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Blake
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post Jan 15 2018, 07:56 AM
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I have done a low boost turbo set up before. I did this 100% by myself with lots of research on a -6 3.0.. I ran 6 psi of boost using a 3.2 intake and megasquirt.. I was not a megasquirt expert but it worked fantastic for me.. I did blow that engine up when the wastegate signal line melted as it was too close to the exhaust. I then built a 3.2 short stroke out of it and went with a divided housing turbo and dual wastegates and bumped it to 9 psi with 8:1 compression ratio.. It was extremely reliable but the learning curve was expensive.. The type 4 project will be fun for you and for us to read about.. Enjoy the process but be prepared for set backs.

And just because I can I will share my 3.2 ss picture you will notice a few things changed along the way with exhaust and the intercooler.. Attached Image Attached ImageAttached ImageAttached Image
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post Jan 15 2018, 05:46 PM
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I have done a low boost turbo set up before. I did this 100% by myself with lots of research on a -6 3.0.. I ran 6 psi of boost using a 3.2 intake and megasquirt.. I was not a megasquirt expert but it worked fantastic for me.. I did blow that engine up when the wastegate signal line melted as it was too close to the exhaust. I then built a 3.2 short stroke out of it and went with a divided housing turbo and dual wastegates and bumped it to 9 psi with 8:1 compression ratio.. It was extremely reliable but the learning curve was expensive.. The type 4 project will be fun for you and for us to read about.. Enjoy the process but be prepared for setbacks.

And just because I can I will share my 3.2 ss picture you will notice a few things changed along the way with exhaust and the intercooler.. Attached Image Attached ImageAttached ImageAttached Image


The learning curve is expensive and time-consuming. Definitely prepared for setbacks, too be completely honest, sometimes setbacks are how I learn best sometimes. I have said, "I will never do it that way again", many times while taking the car apart. Funny actually while disassembling the engine (I did this on a cinderblock on the floor of my garage), I don't know why I decided to do this, but I thought I would be able to split the case and slide the pistons through the holes in the case, keeping the pistons, rods, and crank as one assembly. So I split the case and found out very quickly that the piston will not go through the holes in the case. This mistake took me 3 weeks and an angle grinder to figure out how to fix. It's a good thing I have a couple engines lol.
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holtby914   Turbo 914 (1.8 type-4)   Jan 11 2018, 09:21 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Search here for McMark Turbo.   Jan 11 2018, 09:58 PM
Mueller   Search using turbo and McMark as username. He bui...   Jan 11 2018, 09:58 PM
tazz9924   Im not 100% but isn’t there an issue with the cy...   Jan 11 2018, 10:08 PM
holtby914   I cannot seem to find anything. I will keep looki...   Jan 11 2018, 10:20 PM
bbrock   I cannot seem to find anything. I will keep look...   Jan 11 2018, 10:28 PM
Mueller   A few reasons turbos are not that popular on 914s ...   Jan 11 2018, 11:27 PM
Mark Henry   Berg made a kit, it was expensive. For a few bu...   Jan 12 2018, 01:36 PM
Mike Bellis   Consider supplementing with methanol injection to ...   Jan 11 2018, 11:45 PM
ConeDodger   Consider supplementing with methanol injection to...   Jan 12 2018, 09:03 AM
PatrickB   I'd like to see this when you get done, and I...   Jan 12 2018, 04:54 AM
holtby914   I'd like to see this when you get done, and I...   Jan 12 2018, 07:45 AM
saigon71   I'd like to see this when you get done, and ...   Jan 12 2018, 07:54 AM
Mueller   [quote name='PatrickB' post='2567183' date='Jan 1...   Jan 12 2018, 09:41 AM
jd74914   [quote name='holtby914' post='2567232' date='Jan ...   Jan 12 2018, 10:49 AM
holtby914   [quote name='PatrickB' post='2567183' date='Jan ...   Jan 12 2018, 12:10 PM
Mueller   [quote name='Mueller' post='2567259' date='Jan 12...   Jan 12 2018, 01:08 PM
KELTY360   Chances are you have D-jet, not too complicated i...   Jan 12 2018, 01:31 PM
Mueller   Chances are you have D-jet, not too complicated ...   Jan 12 2018, 01:33 PM
holtby914   [quote name='Mueller' post='2567259' date='Jan 1...   Jan 12 2018, 01:36 PM
Mark Henry   That book is OK but it's quite dated on fuel/i...   Jan 12 2018, 01:44 PM
mobymutt   Since McMark's already done the turbo, how abo...   Jan 12 2018, 10:34 AM
Mueller   Since McMark's already done the turbo, how ab...   Jan 12 2018, 12:09 PM
holtby914   I wanted to add as well that I am currently restor...   Jan 12 2018, 12:17 PM
Mueller   Here it is: I'd redo the harness, just use...   Jan 14 2018, 12:02 PM
holtby914   This is so awesome and generous of you. I am extr...   Jan 14 2018, 03:42 PM
McMark   If you've got a big project ahead of you getti...   Jan 14 2018, 04:07 PM
holtby914   No, my savings account isn't huge, however, I ...   Jan 14 2018, 04:32 PM
stownsen914   Awesome project! Sounds like an ambitious proj...   Jan 14 2018, 11:16 PM
McMark   I bet many people told you, that what you were doi...   Jan 15 2018, 05:26 AM
holtby914   I bet many people told you, that what you were do...   Jan 15 2018, 05:31 PM
holtby914   I bet many people told you, that what you were do...   Jan 15 2018, 06:13 PM
98101   This thread warms my heart. Good luck with this...   Jan 15 2018, 02:21 AM
holtby914   This thread warms my heart. Good luck with this...   Jan 15 2018, 05:33 PM
mb911   I have done a low boost turbo set up before. I did...   Jan 15 2018, 07:56 AM
holtby914   I have done a low boost turbo set up before. I di...   Jan 15 2018, 05:46 PM
mepstein   I have done a low boost turbo set up before. I di...   Jan 15 2018, 06:01 PM
falcor75   I'd say there are plenty of turbo type4's....   Jan 15 2018, 08:11 AM
mb911   I'd say there are plenty of turbo type4's...   Jan 15 2018, 08:30 AM
holtby914   I'd say there are plenty of turbo type4's...   Jan 15 2018, 05:52 PM
Dave_Darling   Member ejm on here built a 1.8 liter turbo four as...   Jan 15 2018, 12:10 PM
holtby914   Member ejm on here built a 1.8 liter turbo four a...   Jan 15 2018, 05:54 PM
thelogo   Kinda confused why you would do a aircooled turbo ...   Jan 15 2018, 03:10 PM
holtby914   Kinda confused why you would do a aircooled turbo...   Jan 15 2018, 06:06 PM
Dave_Darling   ... i plan on building 2 more 914's (probably ...   Jan 15 2018, 07:11 PM
holtby914   ... i plan on building 2 more 914's (probably...   Jan 15 2018, 07:12 PM
mepstein   [quote name='holtby914' post='2568573' date='Jan ...   Jan 15 2018, 07:38 PM
holtby914   [quote name='holtby914' post='2568573' date='Jan...   Jan 15 2018, 07:47 PM
mepstein   [quote name='mepstein' post='2568618' date='Jan 1...   Jan 15 2018, 07:58 PM
r_towle   [quote name='mepstein' post='2568618' date='Jan 1...   Jan 28 2018, 05:44 PM
thelogo   [quote name='thelogo' post='2568511' date='Jan 15...   Jan 17 2018, 05:00 PM
Mueller   I know it says radiator in the subject, however th...   Jan 15 2018, 06:20 PM
burton73   Something to think about: Because of the expansio...   Jan 15 2018, 07:35 PM
holtby914   Something to think about: Because of the expansi...   Jan 15 2018, 07:45 PM
thelogo   :wavebye:   Jan 17 2018, 05:02 PM
worn   :wavebye: What da ‘ell is that? I mean it loo...   Jan 17 2018, 06:24 PM
thelogo   [quote name='thelogo' post='2569225' date='Jan 17...   Jan 17 2018, 08:19 PM
holtby914   Here is how the car looked in the fall:   Jan 17 2018, 08:34 PM
holtby914   taking apart spare engine: I learn what not to do ...   Jan 17 2018, 08:37 PM
holtby914   the cinder block wasn't ideal:   Jan 17 2018, 08:40 PM
holtby914   Rods and crank are in good shape... rest of the en...   Jan 17 2018, 08:43 PM
fordb132   Hi there Blake.I put together a 914/4 engine wit...   Jan 25 2018, 01:01 PM
Mueller   Hi there Blake.I put together a 914/4 engine wit...   Jan 25 2018, 04:36 PM
holtby914   Hi there Blake.I put together a 914/4 engine wi...   Mar 11 2018, 04:16 PM
maf914   foerdb132, Please tell us more about your engine....   Jan 26 2018, 03:01 PM
thelogo   I guess you can turbo a 914 apparently But ho...   Jan 26 2018, 03:15 PM
Mueller   I guess you can turbo a 914 apparently But h...   Jan 27 2018, 11:15 AM
Dave_Darling   Tough to find a good spot for the charger that let...   Jan 26 2018, 05:51 PM
fordb132   Looks fairly simple to mount a blower with a serp...   Jan 27 2018, 10:49 AM
Dave_Darling   Looks fairly simple to mount a blower with a serp...   Jan 27 2018, 01:47 PM
Mueller   Any updates?   Mar 11 2018, 03:03 PM
holtby914   Any updates? School has been absolutely crazy t...   Mar 11 2018, 04:14 PM


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