factory 914-6 with rebuilt (non-matching) engine on Ebay |
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factory 914-6 with rebuilt (non-matching) engine on Ebay |
earlyaircooled |
Jan 15 2018, 10:46 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 1-September 08 From: Portland OR Member No.: 9,492 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
This is my car, title is in my name. I have it on Ebay with a start price of $39,975 and no reserve. Detailed description on Ebay. Nice way to get into a good runnning, driving 914-6 without spending $100,000 or more.
link to 100 or so pictures here: My Webpage Ebay auction link here: ebay |
earlyaircooled |
Jan 15 2018, 11:12 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 1-September 08 From: Portland OR Member No.: 9,492 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
To be clear the title is in my name and I'm partners on this car with Larry Brooks.
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Slowroller |
Jan 19 2018, 11:50 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 23-October 17 From: North Hollywood Member No.: 21,540 Region Association: None |
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raynekat |
Jan 22 2018, 03:25 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,157 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Sold for $45,314
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jmz |
Jan 22 2018, 07:13 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 165 Joined: 11-April 16 From: Lone Star State Member No.: 19,886 Region Association: None |
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914 |
Jan 22 2018, 10:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 449 Joined: 26-December 02 Member No.: 19 Region Association: Southern California |
But.. How could it be a matching numbers trans. as it is a side shift..
Am I missing something? 914 |
raynekat |
Jan 23 2018, 02:35 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,157 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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gereed75 |
Jan 23 2018, 10:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,241 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
I would classify this car at the low "decent driver" end and as such, I thought it would have gone for closer to $50,000. Based on this sale and looking at others, my perception is that the six market has certainly flattened of late.
looks something like this to me: complete project cars $12 - $25,000 rough drivers - $25 - $40,000 decent drivers - $40 - $55,000 nice drivers - $55 - $65,000 restored/really nice $65 - $85,000 investment potential $85 - $105,000 investment grade $105 + The problem is finding the lower level cars. This one was a good to great deal for buyer IMHO. |
jd74914 |
Jan 23 2018, 11:13 AM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,780 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
This one was a good to great deal for buyer IMHO. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Too bad the motor didn't still have MFI on it, probably would have sold for some more. |
stevegm |
Jan 23 2018, 08:02 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,111 Joined: 14-July 14 From: North Carolina Member No.: 17,633 Region Association: South East States |
I would classify this car at the low "decent driver" end and as such, I thought it would have gone for closer to $50,000. Based on this sale and looking at others, my perception is that the six market has certainly flattened of late. looks something like this to me: complete project cars $12 - $25,000 rough drivers - $25 - $40,000 decent drivers - $40 - $55,000 nice drivers - $55 - $65,000 restored/really nice $65 - $85,000 investment potential $85 - $105,000 investment grade $105 + The problem is finding the lower level cars. This one was a good to great deal for buyer IMHO. All of the collectible car prices have flattened over the past year and a half. Even so, this seems like a great deal for the buyer. Much of my day job research is in collectible car pricing and investment. Your pricing above is pretty good for current prices. |
jmz |
Jan 25 2018, 12:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 165 Joined: 11-April 16 From: Lone Star State Member No.: 19,886 Region Association: None |
I would classify this car at the low "decent driver" end and as such, I thought it would have gone for closer to $50,000. Based on this sale and looking at others, my perception is that the six market has certainly flattened of late. looks something like this to me: complete project cars $12 - $25,000 rough drivers - $25 - $40,000 decent drivers - $40 - $55,000 nice drivers - $55 - $65,000 restored/really nice $65 - $85,000 investment potential $85 - $105,000 investment grade $105 + The problem is finding the lower level cars. This one was a good to great deal for buyer IMHO. All of the collectible car prices have flattened over the past year and a half. Even so, this seems like a great deal for the buyer. Much of my day job research is in collectible car pricing and investment. Your pricing above is pretty good for current prices. Wonder where -6 race cars fit into this matrix? |
EJ1970914/6 |
Jan 25 2018, 02:41 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 31-October 17 From: Tuxedo Park, NY Member No.: 21,555 Region Association: North East States |
My question is what is the bogie on a
( nice driver) $55g > $65g with Matching #s eng and trans. VS Matching engine and non matching Trans VS Matching trans and non matching engine. I can guess but I think it would be interesting to hear some other chatter on this. |
Larmo63 |
Jan 25 2018, 03:25 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
That looked to be a pretty honest car. Probably well bought.
I wonder what the braintrust here thinks the market is on /6 conversion cars? |
mepstein |
Jan 25 2018, 04:02 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,254 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
That looked to be a pretty honest car. Probably well bought. I wonder what the braintrust here thinks the market is on /6 conversion cars? All over the place but still climbing. Our shop is doing a GT clone and we will probably price it around $75-80K. A couple of our customers already said they would buy one for that price. I can tell you that it pretty much needs to be flared to bring the money. Non flared conversion cars still look the same as a four. No offense, I like them all. |
sixaddict |
Jan 25 2018, 06:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 800 Joined: 22-January 09 From: Panama City Beach, FL Member No.: 9,961 Region Association: South East States |
So opinions are like..... ah ...belly buttons ....everybody has one so each one has some truth but is hardly gospel....to me people see numbers based on their universe. While I like flared cars, I am going to disagree with Mark , the correct/ original car will bring the most $$ and appeal to the broadest market based on purity. Once numbers don't match ( engine) value drops. Adding flares is cool but does damage to originality. Race cars go for much less for obvious reasons.
This does not mean someone wont hit big numbers occasionally but if logic is involved then numbers drop. I feel market has softened and cars are selling at a slower pace. So there's my 2 cents and worth just that ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
Cairo94507 |
Jan 25 2018, 07:09 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,725 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
I am going to "second" Sixaddict.
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Movin6 |
Jan 26 2018, 07:14 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 27-July 09 From: New England Member No.: 10,615 Region Association: North East States |
I thought the same thing, wondered if not being the original engine affected value? But both buyer and seller should be happy.
[/quote] (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Too bad the motor didn't still have MFI on it, probably would have sold for some more. [/quote] |
gereed75 |
Jan 26 2018, 08:49 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,241 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
I think that the non matching numbers is about a 15% hit and is a non starter when you are talking about high level investment grade cars.
The conversion cars are all over the place with the main factor being the quality of the conversion and the quality of the resulting car. A GT conversion recently sold on BAT for $52,000. It was well done and well presented (a really nice numbers matching six did not meet reserve at $54,000 the same week). BRing a Trailer (BAT) is a pretty good place to track values as you can see the bids, comments and final result, and know the car sold in an open public way. One facet of the air-cooled 911 market that appears very healthy is the back-dated hot rod RSR cars. Nice ones are bringing 80 - 100 plus. I think these cars are analogous to six GT conversions and as such indicate a strong market for well done conversions, of course at prices 30-40% lower than the “real Porsche” 911 prices. |
dcheek |
Jan 26 2018, 01:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
So opinions are like..... ah ...belly buttons ....everybody has one so each one has some truth but is hardly gospel....to me people see numbers based on their universe. While I like flared cars, I am going to disagree with Mark , the correct/ original car will bring the most $$ and appeal to the broadest market based on purity. Once numbers don't match ( engine) value drops. Adding flares is cool but does damage to originality. Race cars go for much less for obvious reasons. This does not mean someone wont hit big numbers occasionally but if logic is involved then numbers drop. I feel market has softened and cars are selling at a slower pace. So there's my 2 cents and worth just that ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) So much for not commenting on ads.....lol. I agree the market has softened on 914-6's, albeit at a very high price point from 10 years ago but, is it me, or are the 4's starting to make a move? Seems like all the asking prices are much higher than a year ago. Of course asking and selling are two different things. Just my unscientific assessment of the current market. Dave |
mepstein |
Jan 26 2018, 01:35 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,254 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
So opinions are like..... ah ...belly buttons ....everybody has one so each one has some truth but is hardly gospel....to me people see numbers based on their universe. While I like flared cars, I am going to disagree with Mark , the correct/ original car will bring the most $$ and appeal to the broadest market based on purity. Once numbers don't match ( engine) value drops. Adding flares is cool but does damage to originality. Race cars go for much less for obvious reasons. This does not mean someone wont hit big numbers occasionally but if logic is involved then numbers drop. I feel market has softened and cars are selling at a slower pace. So there's my 2 cents and worth just that ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I was just talking about flared vs narrow body conversions. I will completely agree with you that an original 6 will almost always be priced higher than a modified one. |
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