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914 GT roll bar questions, Dimensions if possible or advice |
Mueller |
Feb 5 2018, 10:04 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Are there actual dimensions followed for the GT roll bars installed in the GT cars?
Looking at this picture it looks like the side bars are longer and mounted further ahead on the longs and lower at the hoop than other pictures I have seen. It could just be the angle of the picture as well? Reason for asking is I have a friend that bought a 22 foot length tube for me which is too long for me to transport. He is going to cut the tube to fit in my truck, without wasting too much material how long should we rough cut the side pieces? Ideally how far up on the hoop from the longs should they be attached? Same question for the bars that attach to the inside of the hoop up top and to the rear firewall. It seems in pictures there are attached in multiple places and angles. (hope Mark doesn't mind me using his picture (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) (hope Mark doesn't mind me using his picture below (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) Mocking up the bar in my car: |
tygaboy |
Feb 5 2018, 10:29 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,292 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
Mike - I'm glad you can put that bar to use!
I'd copy what McMark did (maybe he'll share some measurements?) but in the end, just be sure you're comfortable with in/out access with the door bars and head clearance on those upper bars. Note all that padding, too. Keep us posted as you make progress... |
Mueller |
Feb 5 2018, 11:17 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Mike - I'm glad you can put that bar to use! I'd copy what McMark did (maybe he'll share some measurements?) but in the end, just be sure you're comfortable with in/out access with the door bars and head clearance on those upper bars. Note all that padding, too. Keep us posted as you make progress... Thanks again, it fits great. I will trim the lower portion a tad for the plates, but I was able to put the top on and access the locks with no problem and there is enough room for the padding for the targa top to fit as well. |
gms |
Feb 6 2018, 07:04 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,695 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The green car pictured above is a later conversion so the accuracy of the bar is questionable. I can tell you that the roll bar in the homoligation papers had no side bars.
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Mueller |
Feb 6 2018, 07:42 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
The green car pictured above is a later conversion so the accuracy of the bar is questionable. I can tell you that the roll bar in the homoligation papers had no side bars. Thanks, that is close enough for me then. I will just test a few heights and go with what feels and looks goid. |
BuddyV |
Feb 6 2018, 10:40 PM
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Robert Group: Members Posts: 555 Joined: 8-April 05 From: Santa Rosa, CA Member No.: 3,898 Region Association: Northern California |
I have one of McMark's GT bars, complete set up.... haven't gotten around to installing it.
You are free to take measurements off it if you want to take a little drive up to Santa Rosa. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
Bills914-4 |
Feb 7 2018, 05:08 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: 1-March 08 From: suburbs of Miami FL. Member No.: 8,762 Region Association: South East States |
Are there actual dimensions followed for the GT roll bars installed in the GT cars? Looking at this picture it looks like the side bars are longer and mounted further ahead on the longs and lower at the hoop than other pictures I have seen. It could just be the angle of the picture as well? Reason for asking is I have a friend that bought a 22 foot length tube for me which is too long for me to transport. He is going to cut the tube to fit in my truck, without wasting too much material how long should we rough cut the side pieces? Ideally how far up on the hoop from the longs should they be attached? Same question for the bars that attach to the inside of the hoop up top and to the rear firewall. It seems in pictures there are attached in multiple places and angles. (hope Mark doesn't mind me using his picture (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) (hope Mark doesn't mind me using his picture below (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) Mocking up the bar in my car: Careful with those diagonal door bars, I had those in mine , it was uncomfortable getting in and out especially with the top on, I ended up changing them to this with a kit I got from jegs , I cut pieces from both ends to get the curve I wanted then used the extras as you can see for extra bracing , Bill D. mine is just for street , idea was to add a little more strength to the chassis ? www.jegs.com/p/Jegster/Jegster-Pro-Street-Door-Bars/756837/10002/-1 |
tygaboy |
Feb 7 2018, 09:12 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,292 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
I have one of McMark's GT bars, complete set up.... haven't gotten around to installing it. You are free to take measurements off it if you want to take a little drive up to Santa Rosa. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) BuddyV - Thanks for the offer! Mike - Let me know if I can help. I'd be happy to run up to grab the measurements... Chris |
Mueller |
Feb 7 2018, 09:29 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Careful with those diagonal door bars, I had those in mine , it was uncomfortable getting in and out especially with the top on, I ended up changing them to this with a kit I got from jegs , I cut pieces from both ends to get the curve I wanted then used the extras as you can see for extra bracing , Bill D. mine is just for street , idea was to add a little more strength to the chassis ? www.jegs.com/p/Jegster/Jegster-Pro-Street-Door-Bars/756837/10002/-1 Thanks, that has to offer some strengthening over no tubes at all. Might have to do some testing when I get to that part of my build. |
Larmo63 |
Feb 7 2018, 09:40 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Check out Eric Shea's roll bar too, it looks proper.
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Mueller |
Feb 7 2018, 11:48 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
I have one of McMark's GT bars, complete set up.... haven't gotten around to installing it. You are free to take measurements off it if you want to take a little drive up to Santa Rosa. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) BuddyV - Thanks for the offer! Mike - Let me know if I can help. I'd be happy to run up to grab the measurements... Chris In my never ending changing of the mind, I like Bills solution. Car is not going to be a GT clone so who cares how accurate it is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Alphaogre |
Feb 7 2018, 11:57 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 460 Joined: 28-May 12 From: San Diego Member No.: 14,487 Region Association: Southern California |
I put a kink in mine for ease of getting in and out. Just an idea... I would say, if you are not going to be doing concourse shows where accuracy is judged, make sure to factor usability and reality into the mix (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Cracker |
Feb 7 2018, 08:33 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States |
MIke - Much like Chris is ending up with in the RaceRod...a ladder type low slung bar tied into the rocker in at least three places works wonders. Mine wasn't PERFECT like his but did the job - amazing improvement in chassis stiffness and how that translates to instantaneously putting power to the ground.
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Franky_Four_Fingers |
May 4 2018, 08:12 AM
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Where is the stoooone? Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 15-April 18 From: Chicago Member No.: 22,041 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Is anyone producing these bars anymore, either bolt-in or as a kit?
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ValcoOscar |
May 4 2018, 08:24 AM
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Garage Life Group: Members Posts: 2,384 Joined: 19-November 13 From: SoCal Member No.: 16,669 Region Association: Southern California |
Me too...
I would also be interested in a bolt in kit like the one WLD419 posted. Kit is fine, probably better for shipping. I can weld it. I just don't want to mess with dimensions. I do enough of that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) can make some??? tygaboy (Chris) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) |
Larmo63 |
May 4 2018, 09:06 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Oscar, McMark is your guy on these.......
He made the one in the picture. I would welcome the extra chassis stiffening these would afford...... |
tygaboy |
May 4 2018, 09:36 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,292 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
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Go with McMark, or may be hit up Chris Foley. They have actual businesses for this sort of thing so I say let's support them. Plus, I'm mildly allergic to deadlines! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) The bar I gave to Mueller was originally going in my car and when I went a different way, I was happy see it go to a good home. Now, all that said, if someone was to come to the June 2 fab workshop and wanted some help bending up the bars, well... I'd be happy to help! Seriously, I'm a big fan of communities where everyone helps where they can and I much prefer making stuff and giving it away or helping folks "do it themselves". |
Cracker |
May 6 2018, 07:03 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States |
My current car came with a cage by Racer Chris/Tangerine Racing...like most anything, it was modified and enhanced to better serve my intended use and fitment.
Cracker |
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