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> '74 914 2.0L with only 5K miles....
Cal
post Feb 14 2018, 10:24 AM
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This should be interesting to follow early next month at the Gooding & Company auction at Amelia Island......'74 Porsche 914 2.0L with only 5,000 miles. It was part of the Brumos Collection since 2003. The estimated auction price is between $60 - $80K....without reserve. This might set a new mark for 914/4's.

https://www.goodingco.com/vehicle/1974-porsche-914-2-0/



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post Feb 14 2018, 02:10 PM
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A ‘74 is one year newer and has newer refinements than a 73, especially a late 74 compared to an early 73. Admittedly subtle differences but could be meaningful to some.
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post Feb 14 2018, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Feb 14 2018, 01:10 PM) *

A ‘74 is one year newer and has newer refinements than a 73, especially a late 74 compared to an early 73. Admittedly subtle differences but could be meaningful to some.


Jeff -

At this age for any classic & collectable car - a model year newer is meaningless in the value equation - far more important are condition, originality, equipment & option set, miles, model/sub-model desirability & scarcity, etc.

But more than just that - the 74s also went with cost saving changes, including changing the true leather wrapped steering wheels & shifter boots to leatherette, nicer looking aluminum door sill plates & carpet edge strips to black plastic ones, changed the glass to plastic gauge lenses, etc. - from 73 to 74 MY respectively on all, especially for the later models. Basically they "cheapened" the 74 cars in order to remain competitive in the USA.

As far as the -037 series EFI components in 73 MY going to 74 MY's -041 (??) series components - other than availability in 74-76 2L's - there was little or no differences nor improvements.

Ergo, the 73 are usually considered preferable over the 74's by most collectors - mostly due to the higher options in most 73 MY 2Ls, but also due to the above cost savings measures which Porsche instituted in the 74 MY, after they took over the VW-Porsche JV & full control over production.

Tjhat was primarily in response to the WG-DM inflation vs. the US Dollar at that time driving up the prices from early 1973 onward. So even in later 73 MY, they also decontented some 914 2L's & marketed them as "Sport" - such as Dave K's excellent example.

So I'll have to disagree with you on the 74 2L's being more valuable nor more desirable - even in later parts of the 74 MY production.

Again, the LE/CanAm 2Ls hold better value due to their limited numbers.

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So I'll have to disagree with you on the 74 2L's being more valuable nor more desirable - even in later parts of the 74 MY production.



You are more impassioned than me about this topic Tom - no worries, we can disagree and it wont ruin our friendship.

For me, as I qualified my comments before, "ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL" - condition, options, etc. - the features of the 74 model takes the lead on preference by a hair. Everyone always says the '73s are 'better' but I don't always follow the crowd. Specifically, I happen to prefer the:

*extra safety of the side door bars and better window lifters over the early 73's
*black center gauges, door sills, tailbadges and window squirters, because they look cleaner. I don't read them as 'cheaper' but as an improvement
*EFI components - the 73 MPS/ECU was a workaround, they figured it out beginning in 74
*F&R bumper guards make the car look longer
*and who can argue with the cool factor of the 'sit down shut up and drive' sticker on the 74's?

I guess I mainly just take exception with the unqualified generalization that the 73s (implying all 73s) are better than the 74s. Its not always true to my eye.


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post Feb 16 2018, 07:10 AM
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QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Feb 16 2018, 12:59 AM) *

QUOTE(Tom_T @ Feb 14 2018, 12:31 PM) *


So I'll have to disagree with you on the 74 2L's being more valuable nor more desirable - even in later parts of the 74 MY production.



You are more impassioned than me about this topic Tom - no worries, we can disagree and it wont ruin our friendship.

For me, as I qualified my comments before, "ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL" - condition, options, etc. - the features of the 74 model takes the lead on preference by a hair. Everyone always says the '73s are 'better' but I don't always follow the crowd. Specifically, I happen to prefer the:

*extra safety of the side door bars and better window lifters over the early 73's
*black center gauges, door sills, tailbadges and window squirters, because they look cleaner. I don't read them as 'cheaper' but as an improvement
*EFI components - the 73 MPS/ECU was a workaround, they figured it out beginning in 74
*F&R bumper guards make the car look longer
*and who can argue with the cool factor of the 'sit down shut up and drive' sticker on the 74's?

I guess I mainly just take exception with the unqualified generalization that the 73s (implying all 73s) are better than the 74s. Its not always true to my eye.


......I have to agree with this statement.

"*and who can argue with the cool factor of the 'sit down shut up and drive' sticker on the 74's?"




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Cal   '74 914 2.0L with only 5K miles....   Feb 14 2018, 10:24 AM
Edward Blume   $100K+   Feb 14 2018, 10:50 AM
Vacca Rabite   And ill be there to watch it live. :-) Zach   Feb 14 2018, 11:18 AM
Tom_T   While it will be interesting to see what happens w...   Feb 14 2018, 11:22 AM
JamesM   I don't think i have ever seen a picture of a ...   Feb 14 2018, 11:27 AM
JawjaPorsche   I don't think i have ever seen a picture of a...   Feb 14 2018, 01:13 PM
Tom_T   I don't think i have ever seen a picture of ...   Feb 14 2018, 01:53 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   would love to see some detailed shots of this car,...   Feb 14 2018, 11:37 AM
mepstein   It needs flares and a 3.2   Feb 14 2018, 11:49 AM
Tom_T   It needs flares and a 3.2 :bootyshake:   Feb 14 2018, 12:45 PM
Edward Blume   It needs flares and a 3.2 Amen brother!   Feb 14 2018, 03:17 PM
davehg   It needs flares and a 3.2 You mean...it needs r...   Feb 15 2018, 10:16 PM
gothspeed   It needs flares and a 3.2 :beer2:   Mar 9 2018, 04:34 PM
SKL1   Considering what that big bumper car went for last...   Feb 14 2018, 12:29 PM
burton73   Considering what that big bumper car went for las...   Feb 14 2018, 12:37 PM
Tom_T   Considering what that big bumper car went for las...   Feb 14 2018, 12:44 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   A fully optioned '74 2.0L should be equivalent...   Feb 14 2018, 01:47 PM
Tom_T   A fully optioned '74 2.0L should be equivalen...   Feb 14 2018, 01:53 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   A ‘74 is one year newer and has newer refinement...   Feb 14 2018, 02:10 PM
Tom_T   A ‘74 is one year newer and has newer refinemen...   Feb 14 2018, 02:31 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   So I'll have to disagree with you on the 74 ...   Feb 15 2018, 11:59 PM
Cal   So I'll have to disagree with you on the 74...   Feb 16 2018, 07:10 AM
Tom_T   [quote name='Tom_T' post='2579069' date='Feb 14 2...   Feb 16 2018, 10:26 AM
iwanta914-6   A 1975 1.8L went for $90K+ last year, this wi...   Feb 14 2018, 02:27 PM
Andyrew   I have a buddy at the Gooding Company that puts al...   Feb 14 2018, 02:30 PM
Cal   Not that it much matters but, a '74 2.0L that ...   Feb 14 2018, 02:39 PM
Tom_T   Not that it much matters but, a '74 2.0L that...   Feb 14 2018, 02:50 PM
SKL1   One big advantage with '73 over '74 is no ...   Feb 14 2018, 04:20 PM
Tom_T   One big advantage with '73 over '74 is no...   Feb 14 2018, 04:47 PM
Ansbacher   [quote name='SKL1' date='Feb 14 2018, ...   Feb 15 2018, 01:02 PM
bbrock   [quote name='SKL1' date='Feb 14 2018,...   Feb 15 2018, 03:32 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   I really like the front bumper guards, they make t...   Feb 15 2018, 04:36 PM
Tom_T   [quote name='SKL1' date='Feb 14 2018,...   Feb 15 2018, 07:55 PM
Cal   Photos now posted on the website.....   Feb 15 2018, 08:17 AM
Firstcar   More photos I had on my computer from when it was ...   Feb 15 2018, 08:36 AM
Mueller   ^ wow, that car just make my heart skip a beat...   Feb 15 2018, 08:56 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   one think I did notice though on this perfect car,...   Feb 15 2018, 09:32 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   We have a 1974 ten thousand mile totally original ...   Feb 15 2018, 09:35 AM
Cal   My '74 2.0L was built just 67 cars before this...   Feb 15 2018, 10:06 AM
sithot   Monterey 2017 1975 Porsche 914 1.8 Targa 3,192 Mi...   Feb 15 2018, 10:41 AM
Cal   Monterey 2017 [b][size=4]1975 Porsche 914 1.8 Ta...   Feb 15 2018, 11:18 AM
Mueller   Monterey 2017 [b][size=4]1975 Porsche 914 1.8 T...   Feb 15 2018, 11:47 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   years ago I was offered that car for 25,000 but at...   Feb 15 2018, 01:01 PM
JawjaPorsche   My '74 2.0L was built just 67 cars before thi...   Feb 17 2018, 06:30 AM
Tom_T   When I bought mine new my dealer tried their darn...   Feb 17 2018, 12:11 PM
iwanta914-6   A 1975 1.8L went for $90K+ last year, this w...   Feb 15 2018, 11:13 AM
Dave_Darling   I don't think Spike realized he was buying a c...   Feb 15 2018, 01:08 PM
SKL1   When I got my '71 I had it Ziebarted and yes ...   Feb 15 2018, 04:22 PM
pete000   I had a 78 924 that was Ziebarted, they slathered ...   Feb 15 2018, 04:54 PM
raynekat   I personally abhor cars that get the Zeibart rust ...   Feb 15 2018, 05:27 PM
Edward Blume   Jeff B makes a darn good argument... 74s are the...   Feb 16 2018, 09:35 AM
914Next   Great year, great color, great condition, great hi...   Feb 21 2018, 10:11 PM
Andyrew   Just spoke to my 914 friend that helps out with th...   Mar 6 2018, 06:00 PM
Perry Kiehl   A tasteful way to cover the holes in the bumpers i...   Mar 6 2018, 06:48 PM
Andyrew   Hammer dropped at 85k!   Mar 9 2018, 01:01 PM
Cal   Hammer dropped at 85k! I just saw that........   Mar 9 2018, 01:10 PM
Andyrew   My buddy at the auction said hammer dropped at 85k...   Mar 9 2018, 02:25 PM
iwanta914-6   I saw this on facebook. Said it sold for $80...   Mar 9 2018, 02:33 PM
Garold Shaffer   Meh, its cool and all, but I will never understand...   Mar 9 2018, 02:55 PM
worn   Meh, its cool and all, but I will never understan...   Mar 9 2018, 07:29 PM
iwanta914-6   I am with you Garold! It's sad to think t...   Mar 9 2018, 03:18 PM
KELTY360   That's a strong price for a 4 cyl 914. I get ...   Mar 9 2018, 04:23 PM
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mrgreenjeans   Chances are previous owners of this car had other...   Mar 9 2018, 11:12 PM
Cal   Chances are previous owners of this car had othe...   Mar 10 2018, 08:05 AM
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MarkV   "This inflated Porsche value madness has to e...   Mar 11 2018, 01:21 PM
Mueller   "This inflated Porsche value madness has to ...   Mar 11 2018, 04:13 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   I find it interesting that these two top value car...   Mar 11 2018, 03:47 PM


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