'74 914 2.0L with only 5K miles.... |
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'74 914 2.0L with only 5K miles.... |
Cal |
Feb 14 2018, 10:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 615 Joined: 19-November 14 From: Philadelphia Member No.: 18,138 Region Association: North East States |
This should be interesting to follow early next month at the Gooding & Company auction at Amelia Island......'74 Porsche 914 2.0L with only 5,000 miles. It was part of the Brumos Collection since 2003. The estimated auction price is between $60 - $80K....without reserve. This might set a new mark for 914/4's.
https://www.goodingco.com/vehicle/1974-porsche-914-2-0/ Attached image(s) |
JeffBowlsby |
Feb 14 2018, 02:10 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,490 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
A ‘74 is one year newer and has newer refinements than a 73, especially a late 74 compared to an early 73. Admittedly subtle differences but could be meaningful to some.
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Tom_T |
Feb 14 2018, 02:31 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
A ‘74 is one year newer and has newer refinements than a 73, especially a late 74 compared to an early 73. Admittedly subtle differences but could be meaningful to some. Jeff - At this age for any classic & collectable car - a model year newer is meaningless in the value equation - far more important are condition, originality, equipment & option set, miles, model/sub-model desirability & scarcity, etc. But more than just that - the 74s also went with cost saving changes, including changing the true leather wrapped steering wheels & shifter boots to leatherette, nicer looking aluminum door sill plates & carpet edge strips to black plastic ones, changed the glass to plastic gauge lenses, etc. - from 73 to 74 MY respectively on all, especially for the later models. Basically they "cheapened" the 74 cars in order to remain competitive in the USA. As far as the -037 series EFI components in 73 MY going to 74 MY's -041 (??) series components - other than availability in 74-76 2L's - there was little or no differences nor improvements. Ergo, the 73 are usually considered preferable over the 74's by most collectors - mostly due to the higher options in most 73 MY 2Ls, but also due to the above cost savings measures which Porsche instituted in the 74 MY, after they took over the VW-Porsche JV & full control over production. Tjhat was primarily in response to the WG-DM inflation vs. the US Dollar at that time driving up the prices from early 1973 onward. So even in later 73 MY, they also decontented some 914 2L's & marketed them as "Sport" - such as Dave K's excellent example. So I'll have to disagree with you on the 74 2L's being more valuable nor more desirable - even in later parts of the 74 MY production. Again, the LE/CanAm 2Ls hold better value due to their limited numbers. Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
JeffBowlsby |
Feb 15 2018, 11:59 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,490 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
So I'll have to disagree with you on the 74 2L's being more valuable nor more desirable - even in later parts of the 74 MY production. You are more impassioned than me about this topic Tom - no worries, we can disagree and it wont ruin our friendship. For me, as I qualified my comments before, "ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL" - condition, options, etc. - the features of the 74 model takes the lead on preference by a hair. Everyone always says the '73s are 'better' but I don't always follow the crowd. Specifically, I happen to prefer the: *extra safety of the side door bars and better window lifters over the early 73's *black center gauges, door sills, tailbadges and window squirters, because they look cleaner. I don't read them as 'cheaper' but as an improvement *EFI components - the 73 MPS/ECU was a workaround, they figured it out beginning in 74 *F&R bumper guards make the car look longer *and who can argue with the cool factor of the 'sit down shut up and drive' sticker on the 74's? I guess I mainly just take exception with the unqualified generalization that the 73s (implying all 73s) are better than the 74s. Its not always true to my eye. |
Tom_T |
Feb 16 2018, 10:26 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
So I'll have to disagree with you on the 74 2L's being more valuable nor more desirable - even in later parts of the 74 MY production. You are more impassioned than me about this topic Tom - no worries, we can disagree and it wont ruin our friendship. For me, as I qualified my comments before, "ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL" - condition, options, etc. - the features of the 74 model takes the lead on preference by a hair. Everyone always says the '73s are 'better' but I don't always follow the crowd. Specifically, I happen to prefer the: *extra safety of the side door bars and better window lifters over the early 73's *black center gauges, door sills, tailbadges and window squirters, because they look cleaner. I don't read them as 'cheaper' but as an improvement *EFI components - the 73 MPS/ECU was a workaround, they figured it out beginning in 74 *F&R bumper guards make the car look longer *and who can argue with the cool factor of the 'sit down shut up and drive' sticker on the 74's? I guess I mainly just take exception with the unqualified generalization that the 73s (implying all 73s) are better than the 74s. Its not always true to my eye. Yes Jeff, we can agree to disagree & remain friends! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) As a 73 owner, I have to say that mine is best! .... or at least it will be once restored/repaired, that is! Getting close to body shop time now .... finally! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) BTW - I wasn't talking about the "Silver Dot" vs. "Black Dot" gauges look - although I personally prefer the old school 50's & 60's Porsche look of the silver dot gauges. I meant the 2 "cost savings" measures on gauges which Porsche took for 74> 914s were that the early 70-73 glass bezels went to clear plastic. Plus they did the typical VW cost cut of going from both L & R turn signal indicators in the Tach, to the ubiquitous single indicator light for both directions, so you cannot tell if you have which signal direction going. I didn't like that about the new 75 & 76 914 2L's that I drove new, nor do I like it in our 88 Westy van. Also, I put forth a qualified generalization only applying to lesser cars other than this 74 2L example, your & other very clean LEs, etc. It only applies to those trying to find a "fully loaded" 2.0, & that being easier with the 73's which mostly had the AG+PG option groups. However, I did disagree with you that the 74's are less rare by much production (except LEs), & that there were improvements to them which make them more valuable than 73s. And many prefer the early lighter doors without the sidebeams in the early production 73's like mine, since they added 200+/- lbs. to the power-to-weight ratio performance equation. Again, all things 914 come down to the preferences of the guy or gal writing the check! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) PS - I technically own one of each, cuz my parts car (body only ;-) is a 74 2.0! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
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