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post Jul 12 2003, 05:17 AM
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Mike, on your question on price, here are the prices that I got as discussed in an earlier thread. These include shipping to my place in Connecticut.

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post Jul 12 2003, 06:07 AM
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Hey, Paul. That is a cool avatar. That bird goes down like an Italian Sausage! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

By the way, I used a Bursch for several years and was satisfied with the performance relative to the price. On mine, the paint quickly disappeared from the collector tubes but stayed on the muffler and tail pipe for years. I still have it in the attic.

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post Jul 12 2003, 06:20 AM
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Paul, don't you feel that your efforts stress the fact that a stainless steel muffler (OEM style) is highly due?

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post Jul 12 2003, 07:04 AM
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If a stainless steel exhaust/muffler assembly were available for a reasonable price, I definitely would have considered it. I know that there are stainless steel mufflers and exhaust systems available for other cars. I guess it is just a matter of economics. What's the demand? What's the profit? Why should I waste my time with those cheap-ass 914 owners?

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post Jul 12 2003, 07:27 AM
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I agree with you Paul. I only know of the SS muffler from Mittelmotor; you can see it on the website complete with dyno test comparison with a OEM 2.0 muffler. The SS muffler has a large diameter exhaust pipe and is definitely not OEM style. Other than that, the price is reasonable.

Not for me though; I would prefer a SS OEM style banana with normal sound characteristics.
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post Jul 12 2003, 08:01 AM
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Thanks Paul....I needed the measurements as the HEs on my Type IV came off of a VW bus motor. The exchangers looked wider.

My measurements show that the exhaust bolt up is the same, but the actaul HEs are set outward a few more inches.....
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MikeZ,

Can you use a bus-type extractor instead of the Bursch? I think thats what a lot of the T4/bug conversion guys start with before they spring for the BAS or Tangerine headers. You might heck out the STF T4 forum.

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post Jul 12 2003, 03:00 PM
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Can you use a bus-type extractor

Seems like you should be able to. On my turbo I used an extractor that came off a bus motor with stock HE's. It bolted directly to my 1.8 SS 914 HE's without any problem. So the spacing must be the same in some applications.
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Hey Paul,
I am curious about those avatars starring pinguins. It looks like Italian soccer. You know, like when the referee is not looking? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jul 13 2003, 02:13 PM
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Oh, I thought it was like the sausage racing!

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QUOTE(ejm @ Jul 12 2003, 01:00 PM)
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Can you use a bus-type extractor

Seems like you should be able to. On my turbo I used an extractor that came off a bus motor with stock HE's. It bolted directly to my 1.8 SS 914 HE's without any problem. So the spacing must be the same in some applications.

I don't have a lot of room under the apron....remember it a 65 356 that had a 60 hp motor....NOW it has a 150 hp T-4 in it......
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