LOL! Got my custom race wheels today Options

[grantsfo]

In true 914 fashion the guys who I ordered them from made 8" rather than 7". So now I have to make a decision, stick with the 8" wheels and bash out of the rear fender a litle more or return them and get 7" wheels? These are 8" with 5" backspacing

I love the idea of the 8" wheels and they look real cool. Since this car is going to be a dedicated AX I guess 8" will work.

These wheels are crazy light weight. The box of 4 wheels with shipping materials weighed 42lbs!

I have another question for the SF Bay Area "club" members. Who in the South Bay Area can mount slicks on lightweight race wheels without screwing them up? I dont trust any of the guys in Santa Cruz with these babies!

I'll post some pictures soon, but I'm having trouble with my image server right now.

[Trekkor]

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Can't wait to see, as I may order a set myself.

KT

[Mueller]

bummer, the one time you get something "extra" and cannot use it.......

are your tires considered "race" or DOT???

if "race", then mounting them on the 8" wide rims might throw you in a class that you don't want to be in (cubic dollars)

[nebreitling]

lmao, grant. post the images here!

here's the deal with your 'bonus' inch: you'll be screwed in classing if you want to run cantilever slicks. not just in pca, but in scca i believe, too (EP and GT3 run 15x7's i think, if you take your car in that direction -- but i don't have a clue in this regard...)

i'd run 'em though! i can't wait to see you have to roll your fenders!!!

[Trekkor]

Looks like Grant will find himself in FM with *everything* , but, the motor.

I'm sure he has a PLAN for that, too. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif)

KT

[grantsfo]

QUOTE (Mueller @ Jun 7 2005, 05:09 PM)

bummer, the one time you get something "extra" and cannot use it....... are your tires considered "race" or DOT??? if "race", then mounting them on the 8" wide rims might throw you in a class that you don't want to be in (cubic dollars)

DOT rated Hoosiers. Think I'm OK? I'm liking the idea of that big flat contact patch the 8 inches will provide. ....And I'm good at bashing fenders! Got my 15x7 inch wheels with 4 1/4 inch back spacing to fit just fine! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

Any suggestions on tire places who can mount my Hoosiers on these bad boys?

[Joe Ricard]

With the money I saved I can get a header. or another set of tiars.

[Joe Ricard]

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[grantsfo]

QUOTE (Joe Ricard @ Jun 7 2005, 05:40 PM)

With the money I saved I can get a header. or another set of tiars.

With the 9 lbs per wheel rotational mass savings I have over your wheels I have more useable HP. Worth the money to me right now especailly since I have a wheezy stock 1.8 powerplant. Bet I'll be the fastest stock powered 1.8 in the land! LOL! These wheels weigh in at just a little over 10 lbs.

Here they are:

[Joseph Mills]

Grant,

If you already have your tires, what kind and size are they?

..

[Joe Ricard]

Knowing what I do now about my car. I don't need no lighter wheels. I need to be a better driver. When the day comes that I can drive with the big dogs CONSISTANTLY then I might spring for better wheels.

You are now out of excuses for not being fast. That 1.8L has more guts than you think when you can stand on the gas through a 60 ft slalom shoot though a chicago box never lifting off the gas. Hit 3rd gear through a sweeper GAINING speed!!!! Yes my friend your car will now do that with Hoosiers. You will totally shit yourself the 1st time you get it right.

and ditch the rear bar. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif)

[grantsfo]

QUOTE (joseph222 @ Jun 7 2005, 06:47 PM)

Grant, If you already have your tires, what kind and size are they? ..

205/50/15 DOT AX Hoosiers.

[porsha916]

Who did you order them from? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif)

[redshift]

WOW!

Neat!


M

[grantsfo]

QUOTE (porsha916 @ Jun 7 2005, 07:07 PM)

Who did you order them from?  :driving:

Keizer Wheels www.keizerwheels.com

These are dedicated three piece race wheels with all the hassels associated, but oh they are light!!! These were the lightest wheels I could find for a "reasonable" price, $250 each. Keizer gave me a little sponsorship discount.

They said depending on their stock of inserts these wheels could range from $270 to $290 retail.

[Joseph Mills]

QUOTE (grantsfo @ Jun 7 2005, 08:59 PM)

QUOTE (joseph222 @ Jun 7 2005, 06:47 PM) Grant, If you already have your tires, what kind and size are they? .. 205/50/15 DOT AX Hoosiers.

With the money you are spending on those wheels, I wouldn't make a rash decision on accepting the 8s. You will regret throwing yourself into a class you won't be competitive in.

You might want to consider sticking with the 7" as planned. It's the optimum size for the 205s. And they are even smaller & lighter. Less unsprung weight which will give you even faster suspension response and quicker acceleration and transitions.

I would be concerned about the shape of the profile you will have fitting the 205s on the 8s. You may end up finding you really need 225s for those big 8" wheels. And if so, you've just added 4lbs of unsprung weight. And you will have to stretch your fenders even farther out. And remember, the smaller tires will provide higher operating temps for better traction.

I run 205s/7"F and 225s/8"R. I think my car would be faster if I had 205s/7" on the rear as well. I will be switching next season when my Kumhos are gone.


Some things to think about. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)

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[grantsfo]

QUOTE (joseph222 @ Jun 7 2005, 07:57 PM)

QUOTE (grantsfo @ Jun 7 2005, 08:59 PM) QUOTE (joseph222 @ Jun 7 2005, 06:47 PM) Grant, If you already have your tires, what kind and size are they? .. 205/50/15 DOT AX Hoosiers. I would be concerned about the shape of the profile you will have fitting the 205s on the 8s. You may end up finding you really need 225s for those big 8" wheels. And if so, you've just added 4lbs of unsprung weight. And you will have to stretch your fenders even farther out. And remember, the smaller tires will provide higher operating temps for better traction.

According to Hoosier optimum wheel width for the A3SO4 205/50/15's would be 7.5" to 8.5". 7.0" would fall below optimum range according to Hoosier on these specific tires. What is your 7.0" optimum wheel width calculation based from?

As long as I stay with DOT approved slicks I'll be ok with my current classing.

[Trekkor]

I've got my 205/50/15 Hoosier track tires and my Yokohama A032's on 5.5" Westerns with 4" backspacing and I really like it.

The "wrong" backspace effectively gives me a 1" wider track front and rear. It's like running 1/2" spacers.

How much tread width you get with the 8" rims, Grant, is what I'll be looking at.

I'd consider running a 15x7 rim with 3.5" backspace to widen my track and tire tread footprint if it makes that big a differance.

When will you debut the new skins?

KT

[grantsfo]

QUOTE (trekkor @ Jun 7 2005, 09:12 PM)

I've got my 205/50/15 Hoosier track tires and my Yokohama A032's on 5.5" Westerns with 4" backspacing and I really like it. The "wrong" backspace effectively gives me a 1" wider track front and rear. It's like running 1/2" spacers. How much tread width you get with the 8" rims, Grant, is what I'll be looking at. I'd consider running a 15x7 rim with 3.5" backspace to widen my track and tire tread footprint if it makes that big a differance. When will you debut the new skins? KT

I should have these on by this Saturday. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mueba.gif) I just need to find somone I can trust to mount them soon!

[Trekkor]

I've got an *in* with the America's Tire here in Napa.
$30 mount and balance by the manager himself.

My A3S04's *should* be here this week. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mueba.gif)

KT