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Travis' 72 914-6 Conversion |
TravisNeff |
Nov 4 2018, 11:46 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
From the measurements and me pretending that I understand math - no support should be required at all.
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914forme |
Nov 4 2018, 06:43 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
If you want to be sure just look up the specs on the manufacture's site.
Example Aeroquip FC363-12 Cover Material Stainless Steel Braid Dash Size 12 Hose Family Teflon Max Temperature © 204 Max Temperature (F) 400 Min Temperature © -54 Min Temperature (F) -65 Operating Pressure (PSI) 1100 Operating Pressure (bar) 76 Product Line Aeroquip Tube Material Teflon Agency Listings: Government Specification FDA, USCG/MMT Burst Pressure (bar) 303 Burst Pressure (psi) 4400 Description Convoluted PTFE-Nonconductive tube Family Hose General Application Chemical, food, water and waste handling, and various transfer applications Hose Base Number FC363 Inside Diameter (in) 0.81 Inside Diameter (mm) 20.6 Min Bend Radius (in) 3.75 Min Bend Radius (mm) 95.3 Min Kink Radius (in) 2 Min Kink Radius (mm) 50.8 Outside Diameter (in) 1.06 Outside Diameter (mm) 26.9 Reinforcement Material Stainless steel single wire braid cover Vacuum (inHg) 28 Vacuum (kpa) 94.8 |
TravisNeff |
Nov 11 2018, 06:10 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Made me a thingamadoodle Harder to make than I thought. Not sure how much I like it, oh well it was something to do this weekend.
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sixnotfour |
Nov 11 2018, 06:29 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,418 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Looks great..
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bbrock |
Nov 11 2018, 06:45 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Made me a thingamadoodle Harder to make than I thought. Not sure how much I like it, oh well it was something to do this weekend. Got any progress pics on that one? That's a pretty complex shape. Can't recall you sport and English wheel. Curious how you tackled it. Nice work, as usual. |
TravisNeff |
Nov 11 2018, 08:12 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Its a bit horrific. I did it in 20 gauge as I have a 1/4 sheet of it lying around and need to find a way to use it.
I tried doing it in one piece and gave up. I did 2 pieces each with a 90 degree flange and stretched them to make the initial curve and welded them together. I put a dolly in a vice and then spent all day beating the hell out of it to get the shape I was after, then used the shrinking disk to help smooth it out. |
TravisNeff |
Nov 11 2018, 08:15 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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TravisNeff |
Nov 11 2018, 08:37 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Here are some profile shots. Its mostly there and a little body filler and it will look good. I tried welding some pinholes and after beating on it so much it turned into swiss cheese from the heat. Its not structural, so good enough I guess.
Also, a pic of the one I tried to make out of a single sheet of metal Attached image(s) |
sixnotfour |
Nov 11 2018, 08:48 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,418 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
wow ..mine was the easy button...Great Job Travis
glue some perlon on it it will be good |
bbrock |
Nov 11 2018, 08:51 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Awesome work! Thanks for sharing the details.
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TravisNeff |
Nov 11 2018, 09:13 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Thanks guys, it means a lot coming from you two.
I forgot I did some more work this weekend. I got my shinking disk and shinky dinked the floor. Of course I went overboard but I was seriously entertained for the day. Attached image(s) |
bbrock |
Nov 11 2018, 09:26 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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bbrock |
Nov 11 2018, 09:38 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
BTW, hows the rigidity of the 20ga piece after it is formed? I am interested in your fabbing technique because have a secret project I want to try on my project in a couple months that requires similar compound curves. I'm going to try my hand at flow forming and was thinking of even going to 22ga things easier. If the flow forming doesn't work, I'll probably need to piece it together. I need to get a sandbag and some better beating hammers to have those in the arsenal too. I just love this stuff. Don't have a clue what I'm doing, but it sure is fun.
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TravisNeff |
Nov 11 2018, 09:49 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
The shrinking disk is like magic!
After putting in the flanges, and the J bend it is pretty stout. When I started you could bend it pretty easily by hand. If I get courageous enough towards the end of the project I think I will try to replicate the GT shroud in 20g steel. I'll need to get a bead roller and figure out how to use it first. |
mb911 |
Nov 12 2018, 06:36 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,819 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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TravisNeff |
Nov 12 2018, 08:04 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I see now why you made these the way that you did. The radius curve is a non functional detail and hard to pull off. While the ones you made do appear to be bigger. When looking at mine as I was making it, I see it is about the same size. Having a flat vs rounded shape along the top gives a different illusion.
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sixnotfour |
Nov 12 2018, 10:11 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,418 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
having one in my GT ...I can say the larger radius makes for a nice dead pedal kinda feeling for my foot.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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TravisNeff |
Nov 12 2018, 10:30 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
You've started something..
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mb911 |
Nov 12 2018, 11:28 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,819 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I see now why you made these the way that you did. The radius curve is a non functional detail and hard to pull off. While the ones you made do appear to be bigger. When looking at mine as I was making it, I see it is about the same size. Having a flat vs rounded shape along the top gives a different illusion. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I just could justify spending more time on them and make it so people would actually buy them.. At 100 some odd dollars was still a challenge.. I may mod mine for a dead pedal in the future.. |
sixnotfour |
Nov 12 2018, 11:33 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,418 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE You've started something.. should only take a couple of hours .... |
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