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> WTB: high horse power VW 4-cylinder engine, What do you have? Must be primo. Plug and play.
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post Jun 13 2018, 02:04 PM
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WTB: high horse power VW 4-cylinder engine.
What do you have? Must be primo.

Just not sure what I want to do on my 1970 1.7 car.

Looking for options. Said no to stock 2.0 any ideas?

Please run ideas by me!

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I did a lot of research on this and you can find the conclusions here.

Most of these are long blocks but it certainly gives you an idea of possible starting points to move forward in cost to a plug an play.

With that said, first pick your fuel delivery preference. Fuel injection or carbs. Both will work and have their pros and cons. But if you want performance a modern FI engine management system gives you a lot of control that you don't get with carbs.

Stick with reasonable P/C size increases. Going to a 105mm P/C gets you displacement but unless you are going to have LN nickies there will always be a heat concern.

A 2.3 with the right parts can make a very good running engine. Unless the engine you get is built by someone with talent like Raby, it is difficult for most builders to push it beyond the 2.3 with out issues.

So even at the 2056 level a build with a good cam and big alve heads can make a really fun package for a reasonable price. At 2.3 it starts top get expensive but very fun.

Without details it is hard to tell if the $8k is a good deal. But you can certainly do it for less.
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QUOTE(Mblizzard @ Jun 14 2018, 09:48 AM) *



A 2.3 with the right parts can make a very good running engine. Unless the engine you get is built by someone with talent like Raby, it is difficult for most builders to push it beyond the 2.3 with out issues.




Ouch, I think you just offended a few hundred talented engine builders around the country.
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QUOTE(Mblizzard @ Jun 14 2018, 09:48 AM) *



A 2.3 with the right parts can make a very good running engine. Unless the engine you get is built by someone with talent like Raby, it is difficult for most builders to push it beyond the 2.3 with out issues.




Ouch, I think you just offended a few hundred talented engine builders around the country.


Not the intent at all. There are a lot of talented engine builders that have that level of skill. Was not implying he was the only one that could do it but rather you need to go to one of those builders with that type of skill.
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Ouch, I think you just offended a few hundred talented engine builders around the country.
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Not the intent at all. There are a lot of talented engine builders that have that level of skill. Was not implying he was the only one that could do it but rather you need to go to one of those builders with that type of skill.
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With any engine the first concern I would have is who build the engine and exactly what did they put into it alone with their skill and knowledge level. Many ways to make mistakes or cut corners and end up with a pile of scrap.
As an example I bought a 1.7 engine rebuilt by an aircraft mechanic. Grease and dirt on the heads made me suspicious. Compression was 100 PSI on all cylinders. CR was 6.5 to 1.
Heads needed $500 in work to make them right. Hope everything in the bottom end was done right.
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