914-6 GT oil cooler set up install and prototyping thread. |
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914-6 GT oil cooler set up install and prototyping thread. |
914forme |
Oct 14 2018, 09:16 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Parker, or Other hydraulic supplier? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
You just need the adapters as Ben pointed out they are available. My Parker store in Cincinnati had them in a bin. Not for the Porsche application (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) I think he told me they stock them for the Volvo equipment dealer down the street. BTW, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) @rgalla9146 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) Rory mind sharing the part number of that cooler? Also would love to see your front line area into the cabin, around the foot wheel, and into the hump and exits out. BTW, nice add of the late fuel pump mount. Ben keep it up, your doing some neat stuff in the price range that makes me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) So many parts I have sold I wish I keep. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) |
live free & drive |
Oct 17 2018, 11:07 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 156 Joined: 29-June 16 From: New Hampshire Member No.: 20,159 Region Association: None |
I found the old ebay ad for the 914/6 GT oil cooler replica from germany. This ad was placed in Jan 2018 -the BIN was for 1298 euro. I bought it for less directly from him.
I ran it through a translator, see below: - NEW PART! - Replicas made of aluminum in Germany! - true to the original cooler rebuilt true to the original! - fits like the original in the front air intake! - Original Porsche Part number: 901.107.040.25 - Solid construction in aluminum with improved cooling performance / Cooling net (465x100x80mm) in bar-plate construction - Thread: 2 x M 30 x 1.5 mm - painted or in natural aluminum as you wish! - Danger! The delivery time is about 20 days! Please note! - Postage / Packaging: € 9,90 (Germany) Additional costs please inquire! - For questions we are happy and almost always available: Tel. 0049/8631/5898 tor-Ölkühler PORSCHE 914/6 GT 901.107.040.25 Neuanfertig.Alu für Frontspoiler! Originalangebot aufrufen |
mb911 |
Oct 17 2018, 04:06 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,831 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
That's very nice no doubt. My goal in this project was a bigger cooler and to create a turn key setup.. That is taking time for sure.
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mepstein |
Oct 17 2018, 06:31 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,257 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If you want a dead to match 914-6 GT setup, it will cost 5-10X more than any high quality setup. It’s pretty much like that for every piece on the car.
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Martin Baker |
Oct 22 2018, 12:14 PM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
rgalla9146, is it possible to get a shot of the bracket you made for the thermostat? That is exactly what I want to do with mine...and looks like you did a fantastic job mounting it. Do you have the specs for the lines on the rear portion of that set up?
MB |
Martin Baker |
Oct 28 2018, 11:53 AM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
Fabricated this out of what was left of the area you remove of a 914 engine lid when you build a GT lid, to protect the lines from thrown rocks and rubber, etc.
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seanery |
Oct 30 2018, 07:40 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
Wish I had a LIKE button for that pic! Cool idea! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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Martin Baker |
Oct 30 2018, 07:54 PM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
Thank you! I wish I could say I thought of this myself but I just saw it in one of the pictures of one of the GT cars the factory built. I ended up coating it with the chip guard. Probably much more important with actual brass lines!!!
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Martin Baker |
Oct 30 2018, 08:12 PM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
Installed my front lines... Now for the rear section.
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Martin Baker |
Feb 13 2019, 02:44 PM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
So my car required a separate bracket to give the thermostat a good home, due to some additional chassis braces in my car. I built this to connect it to Ben's replica GT hard lines. Coated it with rocker panel spray. New PORSCHE thermostat, designed, cut, bent, drilled, and welded up the bracket from an old 914 engine lid, the section you remove when you make a GT lid. Installed caterpillar track (grommet edging, never heard that term before) where the thermostat contacts my bracket, courtesy the Cessna Aircraft Company...left overs out of my spare stuff...
https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appa...yoaApb8EALw_wcB Its all metric, front to back, and it has been a MAJOR pain in the ass so far, and a good learning experience. Since doing anything with metric here, even in 2019, is like being on another planet...and when you say "Cohline" fittings, its the same confusion/confused look. Two more lines to complete, the hard line to engine, and soft line to the tank...then I can move the car under its own power again...really tired of pushing the thing around. MB Attached thumbnail(s) |
Martin Baker |
Feb 13 2019, 02:49 PM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
Here it is mounted to the dog ear brace tube...lines ready to be crimped. Bracket is not complete as shown in the previous photos.
And do yourself a huge favor when you install these lines, use EZ Turn on the threads and surface of the sealing flare. It will prevent the whole threads staying on the thermostat, when disconnected, issues they have had over the years with this type. It also minimizes binding when the metal sealing surfaces make contact, when tightened. EZ Turn is used widely in aircraft maintenance, it is like Vaseline from hell, you can not wash it off with soap and water...it stays where you apply it. If I am worried about corrosion when I install a part, I use EZ Turn on it. Its more commonly called "Fuel Lube" among us in the aircraft maintenance world. MB https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspa...CAaAmzVEALw_wcB Attached thumbnail(s) |
SixerJ |
Feb 15 2019, 03:10 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 448 Joined: 24-June 13 From: UK Member No.: 16,042 Region Association: England |
Installed my front lines... Now for the rear section. Martin, your hose is not dissimilar to the factory look / presumably metric as your using metric fitting, can I ask where did you get it from? Great tip on the lube by the way, wish I’d known that when putting the 911 back together |
Martin Baker |
Feb 15 2019, 07:11 AM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
You can buy that hose in bulk from Elephant Racing for $11.00 per foot. They have 3 types. They have some 30MM cohline fittings. I purchased mine with one set of ends crimped, and the other loose. I then fitted them, sent them back to be crimped. I would have bought the crimping tool myself but it's $1,600.
Another thing on the use of EZ Turn, it helps tremendously in preventing cross threading. You seem to be able to get a positive thread engagement quicker, and know for sure when you don't. To make it simple, it helps prevent show stopping damage to your fittings during engine installs etc. MB |
rgalla9146 |
Feb 15 2019, 07:11 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,550 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
Hey Martin Your installation looks great. Can you back up a bit with the camera to show the orientation. I love the thermo bracket, very 'aircraft' looking. The new version of the Porsche thermostat sure is different. |
mepstein |
Feb 15 2019, 07:20 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,257 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
You can buy that hose in bulk from Elephant Racing for $11.00 per foot. They have 3 types. They have some 30MM cohline fittings. I purchased mine with one set of ends crimped, and the other loose. I then fitted them, sent them back to be crimped. I would have bought the crimping tool myself but it's $1,600. Another thing on the use of EZ Turn, it helps tremendously in preventing cross threading. You seem to be able to get a positive thread engagement quicker, and know for sure when you don't. To make it simple, it helps prevent show stopping damage to your fittings during engine installs etc. MB I just ordered a tube. Thanks for the tip (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
Martin Baker |
Feb 15 2019, 09:23 AM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
Hey Martin Your installation looks great. Can you back up a bit with the camera to show the orientation. I love the thermo bracket, very 'aircraft' looking. The new version of the Porsche thermostat sure is different. Morning and thanks for the kind words, means more when it comes from a skilled craftsman. Have to take another couple shots this weekend. Car is on jack stands to low and I am at work now. Have to support my habits somehow... New version of the thermostat only differs by having six sided hex castings where the slotted caps where originally. First thought I had when I saw those slots, "Well, that is never coming out" on a junk one I have here, which I found on an early 911 in a Pic N Pull in Sacramento. The car was picked clean except for the entire oil cooling system, including the trombone. Think I paid $25.00 for it. I used it for my mock up. All four threads are ruined, and the thermostat is stuck open... I wanted the bracket to have some coolness to it, and the idea actually is copied from a Cessna 414 STC'd Air/Oil separator unit mount bracket, with the lighting holes drilled to the stiffener across the top to add the cool factor. Weight savings? I am sure its ZERO! MB |
Martin Baker |
Feb 15 2019, 09:40 AM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
[/quote] I just ordered a tube. Thanks for the tip (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) [/quote] Glad I can help, it will last for years. I have a can that I have had for I know 10 years. MB |
Martin Baker |
Feb 18 2019, 02:12 PM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
Installed permanently now. Two lines to go. Here's to making the 2019 CSRG David Love Memorial Classic at Sears Point!!
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rgalla9146 |
Feb 18 2019, 09:25 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,550 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
Excellent.
What does your connection to the engine oil cooler look like ? |
Martin Baker |
Feb 19 2019, 09:35 AM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
Its wretched, came that way from the previous owner. You can clearly see it came from "Home Depot" Hose clamps and copper plumbing it appears.
I just acquired an oil cooler to get modified, but I need to send it out to be cleaned and tested before the modification. I have some questions about these modifications people do to the later coolers, one being do they have the same curved tube like the original 914/6 cooler? MB |
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