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FI system troubleshooting, Two FI components will not work |
Such914 |
Jun 20 2018, 07:58 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 1-February 18 From: Wisconsin Member No.: 21,852 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Hello, my mechanic is finishing up a rebuild of my cars FI system, and we cannot get it to work. We have some parts we know are broken, but replacements haven’t worked either. Are there any known sources for these?
-Manifold Pressure sensor (known as the 'grenade') -Air bypass valve The issue that we are experiencing is misfiring and lack of power in the top end. Apparently they have tried 3 sensors to no avail. It is a ‘74 2.0. Thank you! |
914werke |
Jun 20 2018, 09:43 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,070 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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76-914 |
Jun 20 2018, 09:56 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,502 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
You can disconnect everything, except the MPS, and it will run. Repair kits are available thru Tangerine Racing. I don't remember the name of this do dad but it is like a volume control so you can adjust the ohm output. Unplug the head temp sensor and plug that in place and turn it to the value needed for cold engine. I can't remember that value either(I'm running a Subaru engine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) ) Maybe 350 ohms (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Or if you are sure everything else is OK just rotate the dial until it starts. You did verify that the CHT sender is good, correct?
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Rand |
Jun 20 2018, 10:19 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
QUOTE -Manifold Pressure sensor (known as the 'grenade') -Air bypass valve Those things will mess with your fuel / air ratio. But if you are experiencing misfiring, I'd look first at components related to spark, not fuel. |
TheCabinetmaker |
Jun 21 2018, 08:14 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Adjust valves, adjust dwell, adjust timing. In that order. I agree with Rand. Sounds like spark,timing, dwell adjustment, Etc. Adjust timing with distributor vacuum unplugged and capped
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rhodyguy |
Jun 21 2018, 08:30 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
FI harness, trigger points? What exactly happens? High idle, low idle or just refuses to start and run? The components need to be matched properly.
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TheCabinetmaker |
Jun 21 2018, 09:43 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Go here. Read thoroughly, then test items as outlined. It's all pretty simple really. How do you know you have broken parts? Did you test the parts? No offense to your mech, but does he really know these cars and the injection system? You would not believe how many mechanics just "think"they know 914s.
https://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/DJetParts.htm |
Such914 |
Jun 25 2018, 10:43 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 1-February 18 From: Wisconsin Member No.: 21,852 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Thank you all for all of this awesome information. Sorry about the slow reply, but I’m sending this information over to my mechanic. Hopefully we can get this moving! He’s worked on a lot of 914’s before, but I think this information is pointing us in a good direction. This FI system has been a lot more troubling than I anticipated!
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Mblizzard |
Jun 25 2018, 10:55 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,033 Joined: 28-January 13 From: Knoxville Tn Member No.: 15,438 Region Association: South East States |
Is this L-Jet or D-Jet?
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914Sixer |
Jun 25 2018, 10:58 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,882 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
My main concern is the wiring harness. They are old and brittle. Lots have high joints in them. This causes problems to come and go. Bad parts are labeled because of this. The FI system has to see each part of the system.
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Jazzy |
Jun 25 2018, 12:06 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 16-September 17 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 21,432 Region Association: Europe |
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Mblizzard |
Jun 25 2018, 12:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,033 Joined: 28-January 13 From: Knoxville Tn Member No.: 15,438 Region Association: South East States |
Is this L-Jet or D-Jet? 2.0 and 1.7 are always D-jet, only 914 with L-jet is the 1.8. Yes. I missed the 2.0 in the original post! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jun 25 2018, 12:31 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,866 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
those are not the problem, I would say that. your distributor is the problem, trigger points or ignition points. A bad pressure sensor gives great top end power, an open aux air valve just causes high idle or poor cold idle
Hello, my mechanic is finishing up a rebuild of my cars FI system, and we cannot get it to work. We have some parts we know are broken, but replacements haven’t worked either. Are there any known sources for these? -Manifold Pressure sensor (known as the 'grenade') -Air bypass valve The issue that we are experiencing is misfiring and lack of power in the top end. Apparently they have tried 3 sensors to no avail. It is a ‘74 2.0. Thank you! |
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