A new steering wheel, based on the originals, kindof a "resto-mod" style |
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A new steering wheel, based on the originals, kindof a "resto-mod" style |
Optimusglen |
Jun 26 2018, 10:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 909 Joined: 26-February 16 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 19,709 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Inspired by the latest Singer work, I went about the task of redesigning the factory steering wheel into a modern interpretation. Certainly it's not everyone's cup of tea, but some of you might enjoy it.
I made this to be the same diameter as the stock wheel, with a Momo bolt pattern. Outer rim could be covered in leather, other fabric, or be a wood piece. Horn button has two styles. The wheel itself would probably need to be CNC milled, and I have yet to design any of the horn mechanism. The rim has a scalloped inner face, similar to the jaguar Type-e steering wheels. Some of you might be wondering if this would ever be made. The short answer is probably not, but who knows what the future holds. If there's a ton of interest and an investor wants to jump on board we could probably make it happen. I more just did this as a design study. All black with hockey puck style horn button. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c2.staticflickr.com-19709-1530032176.1.jpg) Matte aluminum with brown leather (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c2.staticflickr.com-19709-1530032176.2.jpg) matte aluminum with black puck (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c2.staticflickr.com-19709-1530032176.3.jpg) Black, perforated leather, standard horn pad (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c2.staticflickr.com-19709-1530032176.4.jpg) |
Mueller |
Jun 26 2018, 10:58 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Neat!
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jrblackbox |
Jun 26 2018, 11:09 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 285 Joined: 8-September 15 From: Easton, CT Member No.: 19,140 Region Association: None |
Nice work!
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Alphaogre |
Jun 26 2018, 11:24 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 460 Joined: 28-May 12 From: San Diego Member No.: 14,487 Region Association: Southern California |
Those look amazing!!!
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mb911 |
Jun 26 2018, 11:51 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,851 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Looks great.
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Dion |
Jun 26 2018, 12:15 PM
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RN Group: Members Posts: 2,766 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Audubon,PA Member No.: 2,766 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Very nice. I like the first pictured example, very much so.
Love your renderings as always Glen. Cheers |
Andyrew |
Jun 26 2018, 01:19 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
I like it a lot!
The crest is really cool! Is that another one of your minimalist designs or? |
Optimusglen |
Jun 26 2018, 02:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 909 Joined: 26-February 16 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 19,709 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I like it a lot! The crest is really cool! Is that another one of your minimalist designs or? That's kindof a two-fer. On one hand it's minimalist, on the other I would hope that it might get around any type of copyright issues with Porsche. On that last note though, it still may not be enough, I haven't looked far enough into it to be completely sure. At any rate, if this was ever going to go into production I would likely try to make it so that an official crest could be added by the end user |
mb911 |
Jun 26 2018, 02:37 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,851 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I like it a lot! The crest is really cool! Is that another one of your minimalist designs or? That's kindof a two-fer. On one hand it's minimalist, on the other I would hope that it might get around any type of copyright issues with Porsche. On that last note though, it still may not be enough, I haven't looked far enough into it to be completely sure. At any rate, if this was ever going to go into production I would likely try to make it so that an official crest could be added by the end user Very cool.. |
914forme |
Jun 26 2018, 03:00 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
As far as being made, I was just in a room doing a demo with a laser 3d printer that prints in Titanium, Aluminum, and other less interesting metals. Yes the technology has been out for a while, normally it is in machines the size of my current hotel room. And cost from 150K to 1 million dollars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
Todays Demo was on a machine that costs on 55K, all parts are machinable and weldable, no binders or odd containments. If I signed on the bottom line before I leave town, I can get it for 50K. I am a beating man and think if I go back latter tonight when they are getting ready to pay 5K to ship the unit via special carrier I could get it for a bit less. Anybody want to go into a startup with me. In reality I will be getting one for the engineering school, as it will allow concepts to go from PLA / ABS or FDM, to a functional part in a matter of hours. But I would love to have one in the home shop, and make parts just like the ones above. That wheel would look very nice in a raw titanium finish. In about 5 years these will be common place, about like a 3D printer was just a few years ago. |
Optimusglen |
Jun 26 2018, 03:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 909 Joined: 26-February 16 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 19,709 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Indeed, the sintering 3D metal printing is really pretty amazing. I have a few quotes out for a prototype of this wheel but nothing back yet. For CNC a prototype is running 2-3k depending on material. Wondering what the quality/price would be for a cast blank and CNC finishing.
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Mark Henry |
Jun 26 2018, 06:05 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
The vintage steering wheel in my bug uses pressed (center) aluminum spokes that are 4mm (.160") thick. It's plenty strong enough.
It would cost a lot less to make and would therefore be a lot cheaper sell price, with this crowd cheaper equals more possible sales. I would be interested in the hockey puck if sold separately. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) originals and repops are stupid money. |
Mueller |
Jun 26 2018, 06:19 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
As far as being made, I was just in a room doing a demo with a laser 3d printer that prints in Titanium, Aluminum, and other less interesting metals. Yes the technology has been out for a while, normally it is in machines the size of my current hotel room. And cost from 150K to 1 million dollars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Todays Demo was on a machine that costs on 55K, all parts are machinable and weldable, no binders or odd containments. If I signed on the bottom line before I leave town, I can get it for 50K. I am a beating man and think if I go back latter tonight when they are getting ready to pay 5K to ship the unit via special carrier I could get it for a bit less. Anybody want to go into a startup with me. In reality I will be getting one for the engineering school, as it will allow concepts to go from PLA / ABS or FDM, to a functional part in a matter of hours. But I would love to have one in the home shop, and make parts just like the ones above. That wheel would look very nice in a raw titanium finish. In about 5 years these will be common place, about like a 3D printer was just a few years ago. I work sometimes (when I'm working (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) on DMLS machines (Direct Metal Laser Sintering) I wouldn't want one for home use unless someone else is paying the bills. The inert gas consumables alone gets expensive, the powder gets all over the place, people have died from forgetting to add water to the vacuum while cleaning out the chambers (not at any .gov Lab that I know of, private companies only) It is pretty darn neat and the parts that can be made is mind boggling. Careful with the yearly software maintenance, that is where companies get in trouble. |
mb911 |
Jun 26 2018, 06:26 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,851 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Around here you could get it cast for about $100 then whatever machining would be..
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Larmo63 |
Jun 26 2018, 10:00 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
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Optimusglen |
Jun 27 2018, 06:57 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 909 Joined: 26-February 16 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 19,709 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The vintage steering wheel in my bug uses pressed (center) aluminum spokes that are 4mm (.160") thick. It's plenty strong enough. It would cost a lot less to make and would therefore be a lot cheaper sell price, with this crowd cheaper equals more possible sales. Remember, this was just a design study, inspired by some of the stuff Singer is putting out. That means limiting the cutting of corners for the sake of price. I suppose I did cut a corner by using a Momo bolt pattern, the thought there was that it would open up so many possibilities to other models. I am going to design a hockey puck that would mate with the stock wheel though, once finished I'll float it and see where it goes. Glen, I love your stuff always, but I just don't know how you can improve on the classic design of the late sixties that still endures. I can't argue with that, the stock wheels are great, especially with the puck. This was more of a "what-if" Singer made a 914 with the dedication that they are putting into their latest DLS project and one thing they wouldn't do it leave the wheel alone. |
Optimusglen |
Sep 4 2018, 02:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 909 Joined: 26-February 16 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 19,709 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The more that I looked at the originals above, the less I liked them. Back to the drawing board putting some ideas down. This one has an obvious semblance to the Momo Prototipo (and countless others of similar style) with a few key design elements.
-thumb groove all the way around -wood spoke layer purely to give the spoke some depth and break up the design (non-structural) -horn button reworked a bit, with the Porsche crest embossed Not really intending on producing these, I've got too much on my plate as it is. But it's a fun hobby to design stuff even if it doesn't really work out. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c2.staticflickr.com-19709-1536092040.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c2.staticflickr.com-19709-1536092040.2.jpg) |
bmtrnavsky |
Sep 4 2018, 04:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 20-October 07 From: Longview, TX Member No.: 8,245 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I really like the first and last black ones with the puck though I must say the stock wheel looks pretty awesome with a puck as well.
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tmc914 |
Sep 4 2018, 05:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: 24-September 17 From: Lowell, MA Member No.: 21,452 Region Association: North East States |
I like the last one in the first group (the one with the full horn pad), wonder what it would look like with a wooden looking wheel.
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