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DANGER WILL ROBINSON !, And HF JACKSTANDS Users |
bandjoey |
Jul 14 2018, 07:10 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,925 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
This is the HF big jackstand that's about 5 years old ans used many times until I bought the Quick Jack. Yesterday I picked this one up and for no reason pulled out the white suppory. Instead of staying up it crashed down. On a close look the ratchet pin had worked out preventing the ratchet wedge from engaging.
With the pin out it jams and you think it's holding but with a slight tap it collapses to the bottom crushing your head. Attached thumbnail(s) |
914forme |
Jul 14 2018, 08:04 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
/Yes that is why I took them all to the local crap yard, did not need anybody getting hurt by this style stand. I have two lifts now, and stands with pins in them, that you put in. Some of the best many I have ever spent in my garage.
Everyone needs to be safe and check their equipment from time to time. |
914Sixer |
Jul 14 2018, 08:52 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,876 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Regardless who makes them NEVER use a jack stand that does NOT have a locking pin.
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raynekat |
Jul 15 2018, 12:33 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Buy something like these....
They're rated for 6000lb ea I think. Should be sufficient to take care of any 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
amfab |
Jul 15 2018, 01:55 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 393 Joined: 17-May 16 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 20,004 Region Association: None |
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914forme |
Jul 15 2018, 05:14 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Buy something like these.... They're rated for 6000lb ea I think. Should be sufficient to take care of any 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) and exactly the ones I purchased great simple design. Still need to be inspected to make sure they are in working order. Takes just an extra few seconds to put the pin in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Have fun in the garage and be safe. |
mb911 |
Jul 15 2018, 05:22 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,831 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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Unobtanium-inc |
Jul 15 2018, 05:56 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,204 Joined: 29-November 06 From: New York Member No.: 7,276 Region Association: None |
HF is very hit or miss for stuff. Some stuff is surprisingly decent, while other stuff is complete crap. We use a lot of disposable stuff from there like sanding discs, gloves, dust masks, etc, but not too many actual hard tools. Though I have heard very good things about the new Hercules rechargable series of tools.
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914forme |
Jul 15 2018, 05:57 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Nice Ben I like them, I also like them for mockup situations.
As far as marketing them, liability would be my issue. You and I know they can't be broken with the average car. But someone will try to hold up this thing to change the tire. And I am not talking about the Tahoe / Suburban |
BENBRO02 |
Jul 15 2018, 06:56 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 480 Joined: 6-March 15 From: Nokesville, Virginia Member No.: 18,493 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Shouldn't we get a recall going? It could save a life or two!
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mb911 |
Jul 15 2018, 08:27 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,831 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Nice Ben I like them, I also like them for mockup situations. As far as marketing them, liability would be my issue. You and I know they can't be broken with the average car. But someone will try to hold up this thing to change the tire. And I am not talking about the Tahoe / Suburban That's exactly why I didn't make them for the retail market. |
bulitt |
Jul 15 2018, 07:20 PM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
I worked for the Railroad for 35 years. Common practice to rerail minor derailments involves Wooden Wedges and Blocks. I have seen 420,000lb Locomotives entirely up in the air with wheels on Blocks.
I keep 6x6 inch Blocks about a foot long to double up under the car. IMHO it's cheap jackstand insurance. |
Pursang |
Jul 15 2018, 11:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 232 Joined: 19-January 13 From: Beaverton Member No.: 15,386 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I worked for the Railroad for 35 years. Common practice to rerail minor derailments involves Wooden Wedges and Blocks. I have seen 420,000lb Locomotives entirely up in the air with wheels on Blocks. I keep 6x6 inch Blocks about a foot long to double up under the car. IMHO it's cheap jackstand insurance. We used wooden blocks to brace crashed and unstable car wrecks back in my fire department days too. Thankfully I never had to deal with any rail cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
brant |
Jul 16 2018, 10:07 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,622 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
sorry for my LAZY post
but I've wanted to replace my crappy stands in the past and then never got around to it. This thread has motivated me. I will do it! does anyone have a good, reasonably priced source for 4 "pinned" stands? the pictured ones above look nice! where are they from? thanks in advance brant |
michael7810 |
Jul 16 2018, 10:34 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,081 Joined: 6-June 11 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 13,164 Region Association: Southwest Region |
sorry for my LAZY post but I've wanted to replace my crappy stands in the past and then never got around to it. This thread has motivated me. I will do it! does anyone have a good, reasonably priced source for 4 "pinned" stands? the pictured ones above look nice! where are they from? thanks in advance brant Those above look like Esco's and they are pricey around $55 each from many vendors (Amazon, Pelican, Home Depot, etc.) |
Mueller |
Jul 16 2018, 10:38 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
sorry for my LAZY post but I've wanted to replace my crappy stands in the past and then never got around to it. This thread has motivated me. I will do it! does anyone have a good, reasonably priced source for 4 "pinned" stands? the pictured ones above look nice! where are they from? thanks in advance brant Those above look like Esco's and they are pricey around $55 each from many vendors (Amazon, Pelican, Home Depot, etc.) Last time I went to the ER it cost me $100, so that might be a decent investment (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
brant |
Jul 16 2018, 10:49 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,622 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
cool...
I have to go to home depot tonight anyways... time to do a bit of window shopping. |
bbrock |
Jul 16 2018, 12:04 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
sorry for my LAZY post but I've wanted to replace my crappy stands in the past and then never got around to it. This thread has motivated me. I will do it! does anyone have a good, reasonably priced source for 4 "pinned" stands? the pictured ones above look nice! where are they from? thanks in advance brant Somebody posted about these a while back here and I now have a set of four. Double locking with ratchet AND beefy pins. I really like them and they are reasonably priced: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com-20845-1531764247.1.jpg) https://www.amazon.com/Strongway-Double-Loc...rds=jack+stands |
mb911 |
Jul 16 2018, 03:20 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,831 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I am thinking there would very little liability if I sold them as a kit and the end user welded them up? What do you think?
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worn |
Jul 16 2018, 07:12 PM
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can't remember Group: Members Posts: 3,153 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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