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Engine : What to go with ? |
Beakster |
Jul 21 2018, 07:53 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 121 Joined: 13-August 15 From: Calgary,AB Canada Member No.: 19,055 Region Association: None |
Hey Guys ... I'm not sure what engine to go with ... I have two 1.7 engines one may have 2,0 heads .. Not sure thou ... but was looking to either make a good one out of the two or just look for something else .. I would like something with torque and snapy .. But don,t want to get into a big $$$ rebuild .. OPEN to different sudgestions or conbos ..
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Cupomeat |
Jul 21 2018, 09:18 PM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
This is SUCH a broad question, but I'd say that a lot of people will recommend going with a 2056 with 2.0l heads.
This is a sweet spot between fun and price. A 914 is lots of fun with 125hp... Good luck! |
Larmo63 |
Jul 21 2018, 09:53 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
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larryM |
Jul 21 2018, 10:10 PM
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emoze Group: Members Posts: 891 Joined: 1-January 03 From: mid- California Member No.: 65 Region Association: Northern California |
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thelogo |
Jul 21 2018, 10:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Engine out is not a small project
Expect to spend alot of $ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) |
JamesM |
Jul 22 2018, 02:06 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,900 Joined: 6-April 06 From: Kearns, UT Member No.: 5,834 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
I would like something with torque and snapy .. But don,t want to get into a big $$$ rebuild Im not sure those two statements really go together, especially when you are starting with 1.7 bottom ends. Also, what do you consider "big $$$" ?? If by some stroke of luck you actually have a set of 2.0 914 heads and by an even bigger stroke of luck they are not totally wasted you might be able to get away with an 2257 kit. I am guessing that would be your best torque per dollar return given how cheap AA Piston is selling them for now. https://aapistons.com/collections/engine-re...ne-rebuild-kits You will also need a new cam, and you haven't mentioned what you have available for induction so... even the cheap option is going to add up. |
Dave_Darling |
Jul 22 2018, 12:41 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,986 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
If either motor works, that's your cheapest option. Tuning and fettling can eat up a small budget pretty quickly, too.
If they're both worn-out or tired, then you have a lot more options. The cheapest ones are generally in the "stock rebuild" or "warmed-over stock" category. And they depend on what you already have and what condition it's in. For instance, if you have dual carbs or a programmable alftermarket EFI, then a cam change will help top-end power. If you have the stock EFI, then cam changes are much more limited. Or if the 1.7 cranks and rods are completely shot, then getting a 71mm crank (the stock 2.0 type) and rods is a super easy upgrade, as the 1.7 stuff isn't that much cheaper generally. And so on. So a quick and easy setup for you might be: - 1.7 bottom end - 2.0 heads - 96mm P&Cs - Stock cam - Modified stock injection That should give you a 1911cc motor with decent torque and a bit more zip than a stock 1.7 motor. If the unknown heads are 1.8 heads, use them but the same recipe should work. If the unknown heads are also 1.7 heads, consider having them cut for larger cylinders (there are thin-walled 96mm cylinders for 1.7 heads, but they are very very thin and often don't last very long). If your heads are all trashed, you're looking at a lot more money. It's not that easy to find people to do quality work on Type IV heads any more, and buying the HAM heads is certainly the easy option. --DD |
mepstein |
Jul 22 2018, 01:03 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,274 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Cheapest option is usually finding a good running engine from someone selling theirs to do a six conversion.
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Larmo63 |
Jul 22 2018, 01:17 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) ^^^ I agree ^^^ Plenty of take out 2.0 engines show up here if you are patient. |
Mark Henry |
Jul 22 2018, 02:25 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Budget and your skill level? Pro built or DIY?
A 2056 pro built starts at about $5K/up (USD) just for the long block. Then add FI/carbs, plus ignition, plus exhaust/headers, paint detail, etc. If you can tackle the build yourself you can save coin, but you still have to pay for machining, etc. |
Beakster |
Jul 22 2018, 09:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 121 Joined: 13-August 15 From: Calgary,AB Canada Member No.: 19,055 Region Association: None |
I was told from the PO that the engine was a 2.0 with dual 44 webbers .. The engine is in the car complete BUT not running and seized .. But I dont think it's a 2.0 .. The other engine is a 1.7 but all in pieces in a box .. So I think my options is to look for another eng to put in the car and maybe swap the carbs if they will work out and aren't too much carb for the engine .. I'm New to the 914 4cyl world .. All my other cars were 911s and a 944.. thanks for all the opinons ..i'm enjoying reading them ..
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