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> Seam Seal - between caul and fender, Before I paint
ruby914
post Aug 14 2018, 01:59 AM
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It looks like both front fenders were replaced at some time in my cars life.
I can't say they did a bad job but they never replaced the seam seal.
Originally was there a bead of seam seal at the bottom of this gap between the caul and fender? The 3 mm gap narrows to about 1 mm at the bottom. I am thinking I should fill that 1 mm gap. The way it is now water can drip thru in areas. I am not sure if that is a good thing or bad. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


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post Aug 14 2018, 10:54 AM
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Thanks guys,

I did clean out the channel and epoxy prime with a brush on the passenger side.
The tons of seam seal bottom side was removed by the PO.
Even with out all that seam seal it's hard to imagine how they removed and replaced the fender or how it was constructed at the factory.
I do have the rubber seal and intend to install it after paint. The seam seal I was thinking of top side would not interfere with the rubber seal.
Calling this channel an "Expansion joint" helps my understanding of why it was constructed this way. I recall someone telling me welding / fill it up was not a good Idea for that reason.
My concern is the rubber seal not keeping 100% of the water out after it is installed.
Now there are areas that the water will leak down in front of the door seal near the hinge. Good to keep water out of the seam but I feel its not the original design intent.
Maybe the ton of seam seal fills this from the bottom?
It is next to impossible to take clear photos. I try to show a hole where water would drain thru in this photo. Not sure if this was the original intent.


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post Aug 14 2018, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(ruby914 @ Aug 14 2018, 09:54 AM) *
I try to show a hole where water would drain thru in this photo.

That looks like a rust hole ...
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post Aug 15 2018, 01:28 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Aug 14 2018, 03:05 PM) *

QUOTE(ruby914 @ Aug 14 2018, 09:54 AM) *
I try to show a hole where water would drain thru in this photo.

That looks like a rust hole ...
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See, that's what I have a hard time with. Snooping around in this hard to see spot, it looks like the fender was replaced and the new(er) fender was gnarled in the process.
I don't see thinning as rust would do. Its more like an intentional trim to fit thing, kind of a square edge, some new welds and spot welds rewelded (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif). Like someone removed the fender to trim some rust.

So, normally this channel runs into the trunk channel and would be water tight?
With only the fender to cowl and trunk seals keeping water out.
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ruby914   Seam Seal - between caul and fender   Aug 14 2018, 01:59 AM
ndfrigi   There should be a seal on that gap. 914rubber sel...   Aug 14 2018, 03:32 AM
914GT   I’ve brushed epoxy primer deep into that seam to...   Aug 14 2018, 08:20 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   definitely install the cowl to fender seal, we hav...   Aug 14 2018, 08:45 AM
Philip W.   Fender was not replaced, the gap is normal and wou...   Aug 14 2018, 08:45 AM
mgphoto   No seam sealer topside, tons underneath. Paint and...   Aug 14 2018, 08:46 AM
ruby914   Thanks guys, I did clean out the channel and epo...   Aug 14 2018, 10:54 AM
SirAndy   I try to show a hole where water would drain thru ...   Aug 14 2018, 04:05 PM
ruby914   I try to show a hole where water would drain thru...   Aug 15 2018, 01:28 AM
Mikey914   Pretty normal to remove these. The OEM were a PVC,...   Aug 14 2018, 03:08 PM
ruby914   I found this old thread. http://www.914world.com/b...   Aug 15 2018, 02:27 AM
SirAndy   Problem is they seam sealed this weep hole shut fr...   Aug 15 2018, 10:35 AM
ruby914   Problem is they seam sealed this weep hole shut f...   Aug 15 2018, 11:44 AM
SirAndy   SirAndy, yours is brazed front to back without th...   Aug 15 2018, 11:54 AM
mgphoto   There are 2 mig welds that hold the fender to the ...   Aug 15 2018, 04:40 PM
Rand   I hate seam sealer and seals like this. Whether it...   Aug 15 2018, 05:42 PM
ruby914   mqphoto, thanks for the photos. Best I can tell yo...   Aug 16 2018, 01:46 AM
Matty900   mqphoto, thanks for the photos. Best I can tell y...   Aug 16 2018, 02:00 AM
Philip W.   I ran into this issue after having had the car jus...   Aug 16 2018, 07:14 AM
ruby914   Thanks Matty any photos would be great. So to fill...   Aug 16 2018, 10:14 AM
mgphoto   Been trying to upload 2 photos that show no seam s...   Aug 17 2018, 05:04 PM
mgphoto   RE: Seam Seal - between caul and fender   Aug 17 2018, 05:06 PM
ruby914   Thanks mqphoto, I took the doors off and was final...   Aug 20 2018, 10:06 AM


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