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| horizontally-opposed |
 Aug 19 2018, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(carl k @ Aug 19 2018, 11:46 AM)  OP here....lively discussion! Don't worry about offending me. I'm no huge Chalon fan either. Since it has the Fuchs, it was an easy decision to bring it home as a project. It's a solid car with minimal rust, so it will be a good project to work on with my son. And as I said, I won't be heartbroken if something happens to it. ConeDodger, that is a good idea to put a rev limiter on it. There is a reverse logic that goes on with Slantnoses, Chalons, etc. as the cars get older and harder to find...and, in this case, I'd much rather start with a good solid Chalon than a bad anything else. And you're right about the Fuchs...and being a good project with your son . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| carl k |
Sep 3 2018, 10:17 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 19-August 08 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 9,440 Region Association: None
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We made some progress on the Chalon project today. About a month ago, I removed the Fuchs and squirreled them away for another project. To replace them, I found some cheap GM wheels and tires on Craigslist, and some Empi adapters from The Samba. I think these are IROC wheels. With the adapters and the offset, they fill the wheel arches pretty well.
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| carl k |
Sep 3 2018, 10:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 19-August 08 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 9,440 Region Association: None
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Today my son helped me remove the seats and interior. It had suffered from mice since it had been sitting outside for many years. Lots of vacuuming with face masks and gloves. In fact, my son saw a live mouse in the engine bay.
 The carpets went into the trash, and the rest of the interior got a good scrub down with a bleach solution.  |
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| worn |
Sep 3 2018, 10:26 PM
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can't remember Group: Members Posts: 3,153 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(Rob-O @ Aug 19 2018, 11:56 AM) I probably should’ve mentioned earlier in the thread that I had a Chalon kit back in the late 80’s. Never installed it and ended up giving it away...to a Canadian (no lie). Last I heard it was in his attic but he did modify one of the 914’s I gave him to look like a Chalon. He used a Ford Probe GT (late model) front fascia, Chrysler Cirrus front fenders, Ford Escort front fenders in the rear (turned around so the left was on the right and right was on the left) and a Ford Probe GT rear fascia. I’ll see if I can find the pics and add them here. He had a Chrysler 318 in it for awhile but had trouble getting it registered in Ontario so pulled the engine and putting a 2.0L type IV back in. Wow. That sounds like a heck of a lotta work! |
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| carl k |
Sep 3 2018, 10:26 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 19-August 08 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 9,440 Region Association: None
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 Everything I've seen so far shows the chassis is very solid. I scrubbed down the floor pan with a bleach solution. While the interior is out, we need to rebuild the pedal assembly, the hand brake, and lubricate the seat belt retractors. The mice chewed on the wires for the courtesy lamp, but I have not seen any other wiring damage yet (besides the radio installation!) |
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| ConeDodger |
Sep 3 2018, 11:08 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,580 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(PatrickB @ Aug 19 2018, 08:25 PM) Tried to chase him down this summer, he ran a body shop and I hit a raccoon and made a mess of the car. He sold the shop and I don't know where he went. The other car was on a jig last I saw it, and another guy in Windsor bought it and a whole lot of other parts, at least 2 bodies,and including the 360 and adaptor. Don't know if he ever got it together. My car is in a PPG paint calendar from 2005, so it's a long time ago that he built it. How’s the raccoon doing? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
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| Rob-O |
Sep 4 2018, 01:54 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,251 Joined: 5-December 03 From: Mansfield, TX Member No.: 1,419 Region Association: Southwest Region
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QUOTE(worn @ Sep 3 2018, 08:26 PM) QUOTE(Rob-O @ Aug 19 2018, 11:56 AM) I probably should’ve mentioned earlier in the thread that I had a Chalon kit back in the late 80’s. Never installed it and ended up giving it away...to a Canadian (no lie). Last I heard it was in his attic but he did modify one of the 914’s I gave him to look like a Chalon. He used a Ford Probe GT (late model) front fascia, Chrysler Cirrus front fenders, Ford Escort front fenders in the rear (turned around so the left was on the right and right was on the left) and a Ford Probe GT rear fascia. I’ll see if I can find the pics and add them here. He had a Chrysler 318 in it for awhile but had trouble getting it registered in Ontario so pulled the engine and putting a 2.0L type IV back in. Wow. That sounds like a heck of a lotta work! QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Sep 3 2018, 09:08 PM) QUOTE(PatrickB @ Aug 19 2018, 08:25 PM) Tried to chase him down this summer, he ran a body shop and I hit a raccoon and made a mess of the car. He sold the shop and I don't know where he went. The other car was on a jig last I saw it, and another guy in Windsor bought it and a whole lot of other parts, at least 2 bodies,and including the 360 and adaptor. Don't know if he ever got it together. My car is in a PPG paint calendar from 2005, so it's a long time ago that he built it. How’s the raccoon doing? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) The guy that currently owns the car I spoke of (and also hit the raccoon) has his own thread about his car on the World. He’s currently putting a diesel VW engine in the car. |
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| PatrickB |
Sep 4 2018, 03:38 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 249 Joined: 26-March 17 From: sw ontario Member No.: 20,960 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Sep 4 2018, 01:08 AM) QUOTE(PatrickB @ Aug 19 2018, 08:25 PM) Tried to chase him down this summer, he ran a body shop and I hit a raccoon and made a mess of the car. He sold the shop and I don't know where he went. The other car was on a jig last I saw it, and another guy in Windsor bought it and a whole lot of other parts, at least 2 bodies,and including the 360 and adaptor. Don't know if he ever got it together. My car is in a PPG paint calendar from 2005, so it's a long time ago that he built it. How’s the raccoon doing? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Racoon was dead when I hit it, came out from under a crown vic I was about to pass. |
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| Rob-O |
Sep 6 2018, 05:35 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,251 Joined: 5-December 03 From: Mansfield, TX Member No.: 1,419 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Geez, some people...
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| carl k |
Sep 18 2018, 10:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 19-August 08 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 9,440 Region Association: None
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Well, this thread isn't going in the direction I hoped. I'm glad my son didn't read it ('cuz only old people are on Facebook and forums...). He might get the wrong impression of Porsche owners. |
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| marksteinhilber |
Sep 19 2018, 02:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 229 Joined: 18-October 12 From: Foothill Ranch, CA 92610 Member No.: 15,057 Region Association: Southern California |
Put the Fuchs back on the car and never ever mention or take another picture of that car with the iroc wheels! The chalons are totally throwback if they shine in their original inspiration, but make most people want to throw up if they are a cross pollenizing attempt of overachievement. Would you take body parts of a pontiac Aztec to embellish a Matador or an Edsel? Please, No. Each as an original best represents the creative attempt of the designer and public response. The horror!
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| Rob-O |
Sep 19 2018, 05:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,251 Joined: 5-December 03 From: Mansfield, TX Member No.: 1,419 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Another one...
There should be a rule on our board that if you’re going to tear someone’s car up you need to post a pic of your car in that post so the rest of us can contribute to all the shit we think you should take off or change on your car. |
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| carking1996 |
Sep 19 2018, 07:02 PM
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I think the car is going great. Everyone has their own tastes. I would love to see it go further. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| PatrickB |
Sep 19 2018, 07:04 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 249 Joined: 26-March 17 From: sw ontario Member No.: 20,960 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(Rob-O @ Sep 19 2018, 07:03 PM) Another one... There should be a rule on our board that if you’re going to tear someone’s car up you need to post a pic of your car in that post so the rest of us can contribute to all the shit we think you should take off or change on your car. YES! |
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| Rob-O |
Sep 19 2018, 08:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,251 Joined: 5-December 03 From: Mansfield, TX Member No.: 1,419 Region Association: Southwest Region
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QUOTE(carking1996 @ Sep 19 2018, 05:02 PM) I think the car is going great. Everyone has their own tastes. I would love to see it go further. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Me too! Hey Carl, nice to see your son interested in the car and doing some work on it. As a parent I’m sure you’re proud to see him taking interest in something that also interests you. What a great opportunity to bond. He’ll remember this stuff for the rest of his life. I don’t know about you all, but my first car was a complete POS (a ‘73 Ford Pinto!) but I felt like a million bucks when I drove that car...well, maybe not a million bucks but you get the idea. It’s also what I cut my teeth on learning about working/repairing cars. I’m sure your son has all kinds of ideas and dreams about what that Chalon could be! How awesome to share in that with him! |
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| ConeDodger |
Sep 19 2018, 09:20 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,580 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(Rob-O @ Sep 19 2018, 08:03 PM) Another one... There should be a rule on our board that if you’re going to tear someone’s car up you need to post a pic of your car in that post so the rest of us can contribute to all the shit we think you should take off or change on your car. Have at it. Tear it down. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) It’s a forum. That means that you’re going to hear opinions. I would love to see a really well done Chalon. Pretty much every one I’ve ever seen looks like it was dragged out from under someones deck from under a tarp, flat tires and all. Impress me! Build a really nice one. As you can see, my standards are pretty high. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Attached image(s)   
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| Rob-O |
Sep 20 2018, 05:16 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,251 Joined: 5-December 03 From: Mansfield, TX Member No.: 1,419 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Oh, I don’t mind opinions. But there’s a nice way to convey those opinions and then there’s an a**hole way to convey them. In the history of man, the a**hole way hasn’t seemed to win people over.
I like your car, especially the color. It’s what my car aspires to, except I probably won’t add engine bay badges. BTW I promise I’ll post a picture of my car here in just a bit. I thought I had some on my phone but I guess not. Carl’s Chalon is rough but personally I’d rather try to be encouraging about his progress than say things like never ever take another picture of your car with IROC rims on it. |
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| Rob-O |
Sep 20 2018, 07:22 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,251 Joined: 5-December 03 From: Mansfield, TX Member No.: 1,419 Region Association: Southwest Region
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As promised...
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