Found a bumble bee, Shes a little rough though |
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Found a bumble bee, Shes a little rough though |
peteyd |
Aug 28 2018, 02:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 707 Joined: 27-March 08 From: Elora, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,858 Region Association: Canada |
I went to have a look at this car today. Both hell holes are rotten, so we are talking major rust repair.
I can pretty much guarantee that it is an original BB though. He was the original owner, and he showed me photos of it in 1974. Interior is out of car, engine and tranny out of the car. This for sure needs a total restoration. It is for sale, so if anyone is interested let me know. @JeffBowlsby |
Tom_T |
Aug 28 2018, 02:42 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
Check it with Jeff Bowlsby & his VIN listing, as well as the paint code on the Karmann Plate - cuz they also offered the spoiler, rockers, decals, painted wheels, etc. as separate options back then, so someone could make a non-officially BB or CS LE.
Also as the OO, he/she may have the original purchase invoice or window sticker squirreled away somewhere. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
7TPorsh |
Aug 28 2018, 02:49 PM
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7T Porsh Group: Members Posts: 2,691 Joined: 27-March 06 From: Glendale Ca Member No.: 5,782 Region Association: Southern California |
well look at that. they're still out there.
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JeffBowlsby |
Aug 28 2018, 02:50 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
Cool find Pete, THANKS for the photos.
I have an email from Dave Pateman about this car from 2008. Car has been on the Registry with very little known about it. The photos and engine# are a great help. Did this car have a dash plaque...maybe a dealership or factory item? What are the FS details? Once an LE, always an LE. |
peteyd |
Aug 28 2018, 03:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 707 Joined: 27-March 08 From: Elora, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,858 Region Association: Canada |
Cool find Pete, THANKS for the photos. I have an email from Dave Pateman about this car from 2008. Car has been on the Registry with very little known about it. The photos and engine# are a great help. Did this car have a dash plaque...maybe a dealership or factory item? What are the FS details? Once an LE, always an LE. I didnt notice any dealership plaques or anything like that. 8k was the asking price. Not much wiggle room either. I think it will sit outside and return to the earth before he sells it for less. Pete |
JeffBowlsby |
Aug 28 2018, 03:49 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
Would be a pity to lose this car, most of it looks intact. In your opinion is the rust terminal?
What city/province is it in? (for the Registry purpose) |
Unobtanium-inc |
Aug 28 2018, 03:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,210 Joined: 29-November 06 From: New York Member No.: 7,276 Region Association: None |
Man, if I didn't have 3 projects already I would be all over this, but I like to live by the code of Clint, "A Man Has To Know His Limitations"
Someone should snag this, one owner, looks pretty original, in 10 years there aren't going to be many left like it. And with 6's reaching $100,000 cars like this are about as good as a normal guy can get. |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Aug 28 2018, 04:05 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,864 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
someone needs to talk some sense into the guy and save it. I have seen this happen too often. It is with a great sense of pride that a person, who has no time, money, nor inclination to save a vintage Porsche , by owning it, is able to tell one and all "I own a Porsche!", and for that reason alone will never sell it. As the years pass, the car eventually settles into the dust, and the person passes away
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billh1963 |
Aug 28 2018, 04:27 PM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,402 Joined: 28-March 11 From: South Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
8k was the asking price. Pete Is that $8K Canadian? That's like tree fiddy in USD (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAcQZruv3Vc |
Unobtanium-inc |
Aug 28 2018, 05:09 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,210 Joined: 29-November 06 From: New York Member No.: 7,276 Region Association: None |
someone needs to talk some sense into the guy and save it. I have seen this happen too often. It is with a great sense of pride that a person, who has no time, money, nor inclination to save a vintage Porsche , by owning it, is able to tell one and all "I own a Porsche!", and for that reason alone will never sell it. As the years pass, the car eventually settles into the dust, and the person passes away I chased a Speedster like that once, the guy bought it in 1969, never drove it, never even put a motor in it, but he OWNED A SPEEDSTER!!! It took me six trips to his house, he would call, say he was ready, I would drive 7 hours down there, then he would say he changed his mind. On the 6th trip I got the car. Did I mention the price went up each time, that was not the fun part... Attached thumbnail(s) Attached image(s) |
GaroldShaffer |
Aug 28 2018, 06:52 PM
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You bought another 914? Group: Benefactors Posts: 7,622 Joined: 27-June 03 From: Portage, IN Member No.: 865 Region Association: None |
someone needs to talk some sense into the guy and save it. I have seen this happen too often. It is with a great sense of pride that a person, who has no time, money, nor inclination to save a vintage Porsche , by owning it, is able to tell one and all "I own a Porsche!", and for that reason alone will never sell it. As the years pass, the car eventually settles into the dust, and the person passes away (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Spoke with a guy last week that has 5 914s that he wanted to sell as a package deal only. 4 with no titles, those 4 were had all the usual 914 rust issues and then some. The one "good" car was completely taken apart 20+ years ago and is in boxes in a garage full of mouse infested "other" boxes. The low low price...............$9K I was bummed for making the trip down and seeing the piles of junk. He really felt that it wouldn't take much to get them all back on the road and that might have been true 20+ years ago. Was upset with me when I wouldn't make him a real offer. |
Chip |
Aug 28 2018, 10:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 125 Joined: 1-April 17 From: Brigham City, UT Member No.: 20,986 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Get together and form a chum club, rent a shop (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) , stock it with all the tools needed, and everyone work on these cars when you can. Strength in numbers.
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peteyd |
Aug 29 2018, 06:21 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 707 Joined: 27-March 08 From: Elora, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,858 Region Association: Canada |
Would be a pity to lose this car, most of it looks intact. In your opinion is the rust terminal? What city/province is it in? (for the Registry purpose) The car is located in Ontario. That is all I will say. The amount of rust in the engine bay is bad. But nothing that hasn't been fixed before. We did a car here at the shop with comparable rust. The bill was around $22k CAN at $65/hr I will keep in contact with the man, hopefully he will come around and we could make a deal. Pete |
EdwardBlume |
Aug 29 2018, 06:34 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
I'd love to bring a car like that home and restore it. Not for the money, just the car.
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JeffBowlsby |
Aug 29 2018, 07:25 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
$8K Can = $6K US purchase price
$22K Can = $15K US restoration + Shipping costs/taxes etc. ~$23K US for a car that should be worth north of $30K It could work. |
relentless |
Aug 30 2018, 05:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 350 Joined: 1-April 07 From: Oregon Member No.: 7,636 |
Now add in paint, interior, brakes, suspension, engine and tranny work, rubber seals... Well you get the picture. It will be a long time before you get your money out of that investment. Ask me how I know!
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mepstein |
Aug 30 2018, 06:07 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,272 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
$8K Can = $6K US purchase price $22K Can = $15K US restoration + Shipping costs/taxes etc. ~$23K US for a car that should be worth north of $30K It could work. I’m assuming Pete was quoting just the metalwork. As the next poster noted, that price will more than double or maybe triple to finish the car. The numbers don’t work if you are trying to rationalize the restoration based on selling prices. |
billh1963 |
Aug 30 2018, 06:55 PM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,402 Joined: 28-March 11 From: South Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
$8K Can = $6K US purchase price $22K Can = $15K US restoration + Shipping costs/taxes etc. ~$23K US for a car that should be worth north of $30K It could work. I’m assuming Pete was quoting just the metalwork. As the next poster noted, that price will more than double or maybe triple to finish the car. The numbers don’t work if you are trying to rationalize the restoration based on selling prices. Yep....buy the best car you can afford! Of course, if you must have a Bumblebee and are willing to do the work yourself over time you might be ok |
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