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| Dr. Roger |
 Feb 22 2006, 11:27 PM
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A bat out of hell.  Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California  |
thank you sir, may I have another?
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| Dr. Roger |
Feb 22 2006, 11:28 PM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
it hurts so good. may i have another one mistress?
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| Dr. Roger |
Feb 22 2006, 11:29 PM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
enough.
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| Dr. Roger |
Feb 22 2006, 11:45 PM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
do you think it makes my ass look big????
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| Andyrew |
Feb 23 2006, 01:48 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California 
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Thats a nice ass there!
I like em big! |
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| Andyrew |
Feb 23 2006, 01:53 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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btw, you'll need a 1in spacer to bolt em up..( maybe even a 1.5, dont know that offset..)
add that to your 3.5... Cut your flares, just cut them on the back about 2 inches. cut the tops of the flares at a taper towards the top front, see if thats enough.. If not, do another inch. , secton out the 2 inches that you cut, and on the inside and outside of the pannel fiberglass it back.. get the look you want without having to kill them bearings.. |
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| Dr. Roger |
Feb 23 2006, 09:36 AM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
Andy, so your suggesting that I dont space-out the wheels to the fender? rather, space the wheels just enough to fit the arms, and bring the fenders IN to the wheels? this idea sounds much better as I don't want to over stress the bearings and it does look a bit WIDE. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| John |
Feb 23 2006, 09:48 AM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
Are those 914/6 rear calipers???? |
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| Dr. Roger |
Feb 23 2006, 10:31 AM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
technically speaking thay are not 914-6 calipers. they are spaced 914 calipers with 911 rotors. Which are similar to a 914-6 setup. "pro's": i get to keep the E brake and there is MUCH more thermal reserve to the rear braking system. |
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| John |
Feb 23 2006, 11:01 AM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
They take 914/4 rear pads? The pads look bigger to me for some reason. They almost look like front 914/4 pads (which would make them 914/6 calipers that have been spaced for vented rotors) 914/6 cars had solid rear rotors but larger pads (same as 914/4 front pads). I'm just wondering which pads fit your calipers in the rear. |
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| Dr. Roger |
Feb 23 2006, 11:30 AM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
the pads you see in the new spaced calipers are 914-4 rear pads.
madder of fact i'm temporarily using the old 914-4 rear pads out of the old calipers. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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| Andyrew |
Feb 23 2006, 12:55 PM
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Yes, Yes... and yes... You want almost 5inches of spacer on that thing? No... But you do want it to be really darn close to the lip so the tires look bigger.. and fill out the flares. actually, take a tape measurer and measure the distance between your hub and the wheel mount (were the wheel would sit on the hub) with the wheel as close to the inside edge of the fender as possible. Thats how much spacers you need. I'll be running 2 1/4 on the back. and I think thats streching it. Making the flares to fit would allow you to get it as close as possible to the inside edge of the fender. |
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| John |
Feb 23 2006, 01:03 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
Thanks (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) Got me thinking about this again. I need to turn the rear rotors down to 11.2" OD, space out the calipers, spacer between caliper and mount ear, 911 rear spreader and pins... If you don't mind, which 911 rear spreaders and pins? Thanks a bunch. (I know how to get longer bolts) |
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| Dr. Roger |
Feb 23 2006, 01:37 PM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
actually i'm pretty sure the 911 caliper spacers are incompatible. I'm only guessing as i've heard no one talking about doing that. the ones on my calipers are custom made. the pins, clips,springs are from a 911. 914's need a wide entry hole on the caliper and a narrow hole at the tip of the pin. 911 pins vary. there is a guy who made custom pins for spaced 914 calipers. he details the thickness's at the ends and the center. The easiest way to find which ones work is to find your favorite Porsche dismantler and go through their pile 'o calipers.... I would have except for a fine member/non-member of 914world.com offered to send me his, FREE! =-) WITH springs/clips. It really pays to make friends here as I find the people are so very helpful and generally have lots of heart. When I first came here I was just doing research for my project. After I found a 914, I had a pile of parts I didn't need, and promptly gave them all away. Not caring to make money from anyone. Just doing good deeds as so many people here have done me. I can get you the spacer width if that will help. Just let me know. Roger |
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| John |
Feb 23 2006, 01:53 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
Roger,
I am mainly interested in the Pad Pins, the springs and the clips. The spacers I have under control. I can get the calipers wide enough and centered on the rotor. I can turn pins to whatever shape is required, the clips should be able to be stock 914/4 clips. Inserted in holes in fabricated pins. The spreader springs are my primary hangup. I don't think they would retract correctly if I didn't use any. I suppose they could be frankensteined from 911 parts and 914 parts. I believe the pin spacing between 911 rear and 914/4 rear calipers is different.
When I saw that I got excited that there may be stock springs...... |
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| Dr. Roger |
Feb 23 2006, 03:36 PM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
springs and clips are different. big time. much wider due to the wider rotor. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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| McMark |
Feb 23 2006, 09:28 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Roger, what are your front brakes?
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| Eric_Shea |
Feb 23 2006, 11:25 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
I think he mentioned in another thread A-Calipers.
Pins are custom. Springs are too. Springs are simple. Use the 911 spreader and the 914 wings that go under the pins. They're riveted from the factory so just drill them out and POP rivet in the new ones. Pins need to be machined. I have sets available that we use in our v-caliper kits. |
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| McMark |
Feb 23 2006, 11:29 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Well, I would think that those small stock 4 brakes with huge meats would warrant ditching the proportioning valve. I wonder if the stock brakes could even lock up 11" wheels. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) Eric?
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| Eric_Shea |
Feb 23 2006, 11:36 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I'd say the p-valve is a gonner. Send it to Ray Mital.
Those rears don't have a chance with that much meat. Here's the pins. We machined off the 'humps' because none of the rear pads come with the larger hole in one side anymore. You can still see the butt is wider on that pin though. Attached image(s) 
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