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> Went to change a broken clutch cable, discovered car has cancer, bit emotional at this moment. Knew it was coming, didn't expect the scope
davebrossi
post Sep 8 2018, 04:39 PM
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Hi All,

I prefer most often to lurk, but after a spin to a nearby autobody shop about filling in some rock chips on the rear fender flairs of the clown car netted me a 13,500 estimate, I've been a little on edge for rust. This morning I set out to change the clutch cable which had snapped last weekend. As I was getting myself situated I noticed some of the undercoating seemed more...flaky than usual.

I moved my finger towards it, brushed it and off it came! along with another small piece. I was now staring in disbelief at a mixture of pink body filler and carpet. OK! I told myself, this seems relatively minor, let's just clean the area, I can fix this, maybe not the best way, but I can!. That was five hours ago. As I worked I realized I needed to see where the damage was on the interior, so I removed the carpeting. Once again, I spied a familiar orange tinge... under the urethane installed at the factory. I started working with a chisel and hammer. What was a small hole was in fact a seam running along and right up to the driver's side right seat bracket. The concrete below glared at me menacingly.

The clown car (my 914-6) was the result of an venture from a forum member offering turnkey restoration of 914s. I have no interest in flaming or anything mean, so I will not say who, and that's not a challenge either, since frankly all of this was beneath urethane, and said individual cleaned, primered and properly painted surfaces all the way to the old urethane on the floor pans. but it is worth mentioning because rather than spiral down the inception styled road of 'oh god I'm doomed, DOOOOOMMMMED!' I sat back and thought about what they -had- restored and what I had to go back and work on. The interior of the door panels was rusty, I sanded, sealed with POR15, clear coat has a craze to it, but stable and looks fine. Small side sail bumps. Originally thought body filler, probably tin worm, but unlikely to fail while driving and drag me half out of the bottom of the car. Longitudinals, hell hole both extensively reviewed during restoration, both are clear. I don't see bubbles all over the car, and the 13500 was with a note saying "we don't serve yer kind round these parts try these guys since they do antiques" from a shop filled with classic american muscle cars and more of a 'get lost' message, which I understand because scope creep is real.

I want to believe this is one of those typical stories where I don't wind up with the Porsche 914 equivalent of "you have died of dysentery" on the Oregon Trail PC game, but I also have to face up to the fact that I will have to acquire new front and rear floor pans. Happily they can be ordered from Pelican without much fuss (the available weld in panels for the 914 is really REALLY a reason I love them in an odd sort of way.)

I know I have to invest in a welder as I lack the skills. I want to prepare the area as best as humanly possible because A.) I believe in being a good steward and B.) I'm afraid while I'm happy to pay for their services, I am cheap and would prefer to do the prep work myself.

Advice (maybe prayers?) is/are appreciated, but I will be searching threads and educating myself accordingly as I know I need to. in the meantime, here's some NSFW Porsche Floor pan gore;
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the initial discovery and early cleaning

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The point at which I realize I should probably look at the top end of things.

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because regrettably I am a millenial, I wanted to show off my PPE for working with fiberglass and sanding.

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The moment my heart sank, the colour drained out of my face, and I had to go have a little sit down. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

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This is the extent of the rot. You can see the garage floor clearly a menacing glare fixed on it's eyeball-less face :E! I wont blame the consumption of Hubert's lemonade, wait, no, yes I'll blame it for the rust after all!

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The start of (and at which point I realized that the floor pans were toast on both sides) the surface rust on the other side.

I'll admit it was heartbreaking to discover. I wanted to give up and throw it all away, sell it and be done with it. But then again, new front and rear floor panels are made for a reason, and the last undiscovered country (Star Trek) both my father and I were starting into was body work in the last couple years. I'm hoping I'm not right thinking this will require the selling of one of both a kidney and a lung, frankly I have no idea, though (in a phrase I use talking with my employers often) I look forward to the opportunities it will afford me moving forward. Bonus points here in how my dad managed to cause the usual reaction that always happened when there was a setback and he had to tell mom one last time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif)
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davebrossi   Went to change a broken clutch cable, discovered car has cancer   Sep 8 2018, 04:39 PM
davebrossi   Quick mention; I know the floor pan is a two piece...   Sep 8 2018, 04:53 PM
Firstcar   Condolences. Anything is fixable, just comes down...   Sep 8 2018, 04:55 PM
EdwardBlume   Its the challenges in life that define us more tha...   Sep 8 2018, 05:11 PM
mepstein   There are a counter or different ways to buy the p...   Sep 8 2018, 05:22 PM
billh1963   Yes...anything can be fixed. Only costs time and m...   Sep 8 2018, 05:23 PM
davebrossi   Yes...anything can be fixed. Only costs time and ...   Sep 8 2018, 07:14 PM
worn   It isn’t that bad. You can do it. Nice write u...   Sep 8 2018, 06:23 PM
jdamiano   Doesn’t look too bad. Always hard to tell from p...   Sep 8 2018, 07:31 PM
davebrossi   Doesn’t look too bad. Always hard to tell from ...   Sep 8 2018, 07:45 PM
VaccaRabite   Seriously. This. Is. Nothing. It’s not term...   Sep 8 2018, 07:47 PM
Chip   Seriously. This. Is. Nothing. It’s not ter...   Sep 10 2018, 08:30 PM
davebrossi   Seriously. This. Is. Nothing. It’s not te...   Sep 10 2018, 09:30 PM
porschetub   You will be fine ,most find out way worse,many on ...   Sep 8 2018, 10:18 PM
Larmo63   I'm torn here, because I want to root for you ...   Sep 8 2018, 10:54 PM
davebrossi   I'm torn here, because I want to root for you...   Sep 9 2018, 07:29 AM
bbrock   As someone who has one of those naked chassis hang...   Sep 8 2018, 11:11 PM
rjames   Cut out the pan (or the parts of it that are shot)...   Sep 8 2018, 11:32 PM
r_towle   No one is entitled to a rust free 914! You hav...   Sep 9 2018, 08:05 AM
cary   Place close attention under the e-brake. Water lik...   Sep 9 2018, 09:56 AM
914Sixer   Just do it!   Sep 9 2018, 09:58 AM
burton73   “(they have, I might add, been reinforced by a k...   Sep 9 2018, 12:39 PM
davebrossi   “(they have, I might add, been reinforced by a ...   Sep 9 2018, 03:39 PM
davebrossi   Hi All, I'm back! :Qarl: I can't pr...   Sep 10 2018, 08:25 PM
bbrock   Doesn't look bad at all. I'd stab at the ...   Sep 10 2018, 10:33 PM
davebrossi   Another weekend, and another discovery :barf: but ...   Sep 15 2018, 12:07 PM
burton73   Dave, I love your writing style. You are a funny ...   Sep 15 2018, 02:24 PM
davebrossi   Dave, I love your writing style. You are a funny...   Sep 18 2018, 09:39 PM
VaccaRabite   For the rest of the tar - dry ice. Get some dry i...   Sep 15 2018, 04:30 PM
davebrossi   For the rest of the tar - dry ice. Get some dry ...   Sep 19 2018, 07:02 PM
bbrock   Regarding welding pin hole rust shut, I guess I n...   Sep 20 2018, 04:46 PM
bbrock   Thanks for the compliments Bob. It wasn't THA...   Sep 15 2018, 04:57 PM
davebrossi   Thanks for the compliments Bob. It wasn't TH...   Sep 18 2018, 09:41 PM
davesprinkle   Dave, your writing is hilarious. Love your style.   Sep 16 2018, 10:29 AM
Rusty   Dave, Breathe. Relax. Listen. You do not have ...   Sep 19 2018, 07:33 PM
JRust   Dang I just drove through there this past weekend ...   Sep 19 2018, 10:12 PM
VaccaRabite   There are three ways to remove tar. 1) mechanical...   Sep 20 2018, 07:56 AM
davebrossi   So! Today was play with dry ice day! Wheee...   Sep 22 2018, 02:33 PM
bbrock   Now for a stupid question (I always have many.) I...   Sep 22 2018, 10:26 PM
davebrossi   Now for a stupid question (I always have many.) ...   Sep 22 2018, 11:06 PM
davebrossi   https://youtu.be/TLN68M6rcrQ   Sep 22 2018, 02:43 PM
rhodyguy   Endevore to perciviere. A hot air gun and a painte...   Sep 22 2018, 02:50 PM
SirAndy   You got lucky, whoever said your car was surprisin...   Sep 22 2018, 03:30 PM
burton73   Dude your car really is not that bad. Something yo...   Sep 22 2018, 04:16 PM
davebrossi   Dude your car really is not that bad. Something y...   Sep 22 2018, 11:14 PM
bbrock   [quote name='burton73' post='2651175' date='Sep 2...   Sep 23 2018, 03:26 PM
davebrossi   [quote name='burton73' post='2651175' date='Sep ...   Sep 23 2018, 03:44 PM
davebrossi   Update update update half update? :blink: Using...   Sep 23 2018, 06:32 PM
burton73   Dave, Take your time with this. It takes a lot of...   Sep 24 2018, 02:52 PM
davebrossi   Dave, Take your time with this. It takes a lot o...   Sep 24 2018, 05:57 PM
davebrossi   Back again with a 'mini' update since ther...   Sep 30 2018, 01:56 PM
davebrossi   Back again with brief update as I slog along to wh...   Oct 6 2018, 07:05 PM
davebrossi   I should also add I was rather annoyed to discover...   Oct 6 2018, 07:08 PM
KELTY360   You're a brave man attacking this job in that ...   Oct 6 2018, 09:02 PM
davebrossi   You're a brave man attacking this job in that...   Oct 7 2018, 11:42 AM
bbrock   You're a brave man attacking this job in that...   Oct 7 2018, 12:23 PM
davebrossi   You're a brave man attacking this job in tha...   Oct 7 2018, 06:16 PM
davebrossi   Update from beyond the snowwwwww. Money does tend...   Feb 4 2019, 10:00 AM
GeorgeRud   Hang in there and take your time to do it right. ...   Feb 5 2019, 04:48 PM
bbrock   Thanks for the update. I was just wondering about...   Feb 5 2019, 05:13 PM


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