Gas pedal linkage keeps popping off |
|
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG.
This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way. Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners. |
|
Gas pedal linkage keeps popping off |
Tdskip |
Oct 5 2018, 07:31 AM
Post
#1
|
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Good morning, happy Friday.
I would like to drive the red "turbo" car to see the Orange County mafia at Crystal Cove tomorrow but my gas pedal keeps popping off. More specifically, it's the cup on the accelerator rod that attaches to the ball in the linkage on the floor that keeps popping off. I am not seeing any means of adjusting that fit so it doesn't pop off, but I'm still a newbie here and was hoping that you guys would be able to offer ideas and things to check. I may have a spare rod that I can try, but any ideas on how to resolve this and or common issues? This is a 911 diagram, but it is a very similar set up. It's number six that keeps popping off |
Tdskip |
Oct 5 2018, 07:52 AM
Post
#2
|
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
|
theer |
Oct 5 2018, 08:10 AM
Post
#3
|
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 676 Joined: 31-July 15 From: Dover, MA Member No.: 19,014 Region Association: North East States |
Hard to tell in the pictures, but it looks as if the round retainer spring is missing... #6A in the parts diagram.
|
Tdskip |
Oct 5 2018, 08:12 AM
Post
#4
|
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
|
Tdskip |
Oct 5 2018, 08:15 AM
Post
#5
|
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
This.
Attached image(s) |
bdstone914 |
Oct 5 2018, 08:21 AM
Post
#6
|
bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,517 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
This. No that one pictured only fits on G50 pedal set rods that have a hole drilled thru for it. It is a round circular clip. I can send you a new end. If you are coming to Oscars Sunday I can brng one. Bruce Attached thumbnail(s) |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Oct 5 2018, 08:22 AM
Post
#7
|
914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,842 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
most probably it is a bad pedal. If your pedal rocks from side to side, it is bad and you need a new one. They are very inexpensive these days as our friends at URO make a good reproduction. That very problem is discussed in my book "tech tips 700" as years ago as a kid I too thought that there was something wrong with the linkage, but eventually found out the real reason. With a new pedal you will be surprised how much better the car will drive!!
Good morning, happy Friday. I would like to drive the red "turbo" car to see the Orange County mafia at Crystal Cove tomorrow but my gas pedal keeps popping off. More specifically, it's the cup on the accelerator rod that attaches to the ball in the linkage on the floor that keeps popping off. I am not seeing any means of adjusting that fit so it doesn't pop off, but I'm still a newbie here and was hoping that you guys would be able to offer ideas and things to check. I may have a spare rod that I can try, but any ideas on how to resolve this and or common issues? This is a 911 diagram, but it is a very similar set up. It's number six that keeps popping off |
Tdskip |
Oct 5 2018, 08:29 AM
Post
#8
|
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Ah, thanks Bruce.
I can see a clip in there on the one I took off. It is not quite a full 360, slight gap. George, this car as metal gas pedal so don’t think it is a wobble (but my other one wobbles like wet linguini! Thanks for the tip). |
bdstone914 |
Oct 5 2018, 08:29 AM
Post
#9
|
bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,517 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
most probably it is a bad pedal. If your pedal rocks from side to side, it is bad and you need a new one. They are very inexpensive these days as our friends at URO make a good reproduction. That very problem is discussed in my book "tech tips 700" as years ago as a kid I too thought that there was something wrong with the linkage, but eventually found out the real reason. With a new pedal you will be surprised how much better the car will drive!! Good morning, happy Friday. I would like to drive the red "turbo" car to see the Orange County mafia at Crystal Cove tomorrow but my gas pedal keeps popping off. More specifically, it's the cup on the accelerator rod that attaches to the ball in the linkage on the floor that keeps popping off. I am not seeing any means of adjusting that fit so it doesn't pop off, but I'm still a newbie here and was hoping that you guys would be able to offer ideas and things to check. I may have a spare rod that I can try, but any ideas on how to resolve this and or common issues? This is a 911 diagram, but it is a very similar set up. It's number six that keeps popping off I do not agree the gas pedal would cause it to pop off. If the clip if they and expanded it will pop off. Bad bushings in the accelerator crank will allow side to side movement. Check you gas pedal by moving it side to side. They rust internally at the base. |
TheCabinetmaker |
Oct 5 2018, 09:27 AM
Post
#10
|
I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
I agree Bruce. Worn pedal will cause the ball end to pop out of the pedal cup, but not the other end of the rod from the bell crank
|
Tdskip |
Oct 5 2018, 09:38 AM
Post
#11
|
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
|
Tdskip |
Oct 5 2018, 03:00 PM
Post
#12
|
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
OK -did some digging am down I don’t think the issue is the rod / ball / cup.
My whole assembly is flopping around; -The assembley where my finger is will flop around (#7 is the picture for illustration purposes) - I have the cotter pin and washer (#19 and #20) but NOT what looks to be a bushing (#18) EDIT: correct diagram here. I am missing the rubber stop #25 and bearing sleeve #29 |
bdstone914 |
Oct 5 2018, 04:41 PM
Post
#13
|
bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,517 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
You are probably going to need to pull the pedal set to replace the bushings. If those are bad the set probably needs rebuilding. I know a guy .....
Attached thumbnail(s) |
Tdskip |
Oct 5 2018, 05:02 PM
Post
#14
|
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Hi Bruce.
How hard to pull the pedal cluster? |
Dave_Darling |
Oct 5 2018, 05:42 PM
Post
#15
|
914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,983 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
It can be easy, or it can be a rusted-together pain in the ***. Depends.
IIRC, you have to unbolt the master cylinder from the firewall because those two fasteners are two of the ones that also hold the pedal cluster on. Other that that, and unhooking all of the linkage bits, it is very straightforward. Unbolt and remove. The "unbolt" can be a challenge due to rust, though. --DD |
bdstone914 |
Oct 5 2018, 05:58 PM
Post
#16
|
bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,517 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
Hi Bruce. How hard to pull the pedal cluster? Skip, If you want to get a rebuilt set from me we can probably get Oscar to lend the use of his garage and swap it out. I like to undo the clutch cable and accelerator cables at he the back of the car. Requires removing the steering rack pan. master cylinder bolts, wires to the brake light switch. Then I shove a chisel under the set to lift it above the studs. Pull, twist and get the set out to where you can unhook the clutch and accelerator cables. Bruce |
Tdskip |
Oct 5 2018, 05:59 PM
Post
#17
|
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
It can be easy, or it can be a rusted-together pain in the ***. Depends. IIRC, you have to unbolt the master cylinder from the firewall because those two fasteners are two of the ones that also hold the pedal cluster on. Other that that, and unhooking all of the linkage bits, it is very straightforward. Unbolt and remove. The "unbolt" can be a challenge due to rust, though. --DD Thanks Dave. This is a long-term California car, but... |
Tdskip |
Oct 5 2018, 06:03 PM
Post
#18
|
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Skip, If you want to get a rebuilt set from me we can probably get Oscar to lend the use of his garage and swap it out. I like to undo the clutch cable and accelerator cables at he the back of the car. Requires removing the steering rack pan. master cylinder bolts, wires to the brake light switch. Then I shove a chisel under the set to lift it above the studs. Pull, twist and get the set out to where you can unhook the clutch and accelerator cables. Bruce Hi Bruce-that would be great but let me see if I have that time to put aside ( Busy kids soccer weekend). I also want to make sure that I'm not distracting from the main reason everyone's there. But if it lines up and we can still get the primary work done that would be fantastic. EDIT - I am a moron. I can't drive the car, so I'd have to have it towed there, which is cost prohibitive. |
Tdskip |
Oct 6 2018, 11:09 AM
Post
#19
|
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
|
Tdskip |
Oct 6 2018, 12:27 PM
Post
#20
|
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 10th May 2024 - 07:15 AM |
All rights reserved 914World.com © since 2002 |
914World.com is the fastest growing online 914 community! We have it all, classifieds, events, forums, vendors, parts, autocross, racing, technical articles, events calendar, newsletter, restoration, gallery, archives, history and more for your Porsche 914 ... |