Rear Trunk Body / panel seam sealer, Trying to duplicate the original look |
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Rear Trunk Body / panel seam sealer, Trying to duplicate the original look |
mmichalik |
Nov 21 2018, 05:12 PM
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MikeM Group: Members Posts: 697 Joined: 27-January 16 From: Valley Center, CA Member No.: 19,600 Region Association: Southern California |
Hi everyone.
I just spent the last hour and 1/2 or so searching for a post from a few weeks / months ago where someone asked about recreating the original look of the seam sealer in the trunk but, I can't find it. We had to replace the rear panel in the trunk and we're about to put the seam sealer on and would like to replicate the original look as much as possible. Does anyone have any good tips or tricks they could share with me? Or perhaps point me in the direction of any previous posts. Thanks! Mike |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Nov 21 2018, 05:15 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,866 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
Easy, buy Wurth SKS and get the gun. Our man Kirk matches it exactly.
If you want to talk to him about it, 770 877 5743 Hi everyone. I just spent the last hour and 1/2 or so searching for a post from a few weeks / months ago where someone asked about recreating the original look of the seam sealer in the trunk but, I can't find it. We had to replace the rear panel in the trunk and we're about to put the seam sealer on and would like to replicate the original look as much as possible. Does anyone have any good tips or tricks they could share with me? Or perhaps point me in the direction of any previous posts. Thanks! Mike |
mmichalik |
Nov 21 2018, 05:23 PM
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MikeM Group: Members Posts: 697 Joined: 27-January 16 From: Valley Center, CA Member No.: 19,600 Region Association: Southern California |
Easy, buy Wurth SKS and get the gun. Our man Kirk matches it exactly. If you want to talk to him about it, 770 877 5743 Hi everyone. I just spent the last hour and 1/2 or so searching for a post from a few weeks / months ago where someone asked about recreating the original look of the seam sealer in the trunk but, I can't find it. We had to replace the rear panel in the trunk and we're about to put the seam sealer on and would like to replicate the original look as much as possible. Does anyone have any good tips or tricks they could share with me? Or perhaps point me in the direction of any previous posts. Thanks! Mike Awesome! Thanks George, as always. Happy Thanksgiving! Mike |
Tdskip |
Nov 21 2018, 05:39 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Very gracious George
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bbrock |
Nov 21 2018, 06:08 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
The problem is that special gun is @#$% expensive! I used Kent's trick of using bed liner in a shutz gun he shared on CAIRO's Six thread: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2568527 Simple and worked pretty well. I don't think the bed liner piled up as high as the original sealer but you have to scrutinize pretty close to notice. I think you could get a pretty close to exact match using 2 or more coats to build thickness. You can read my experience starting here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=2659255 But here's a shot of the result.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-20845-1540171311_thumb.jpg) and the trunk after paint: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-20845-1542334552_thumb.jpg) |
mmichalik |
Nov 21 2018, 06:28 PM
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MikeM Group: Members Posts: 697 Joined: 27-January 16 From: Valley Center, CA Member No.: 19,600 Region Association: Southern California |
Thanks for the great option there, Brent!
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cary |
Nov 21 2018, 06:34 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Brent, well done.
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Debug |
Nov 21 2018, 11:07 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 25-February 14 From: Wellington Member No.: 17,039 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
The problem is that special gun is @#$% expensive! I used Kent's trick of using bed liner in a shutz gun he shared on CAIRO's Six thread: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2568527 Simple and worked pretty well. I don't think the bed liner piled up as high as the original sealer but you have to scrutinize pretty close to notice. I think you could get a pretty close to exact match using 2 or more coats to build thickness. You can read my experience starting here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=2659255 But here's a shot of the result. and the trunk after paint: I applied seam sealer built it up to the depth of the original sealer and then blew compressed air over it to get a texture. It's not exactly the same but very close. I haven't painted it yet but the primer should help blend it in. Attached thumbnail(s) |
TravisNeff |
Nov 21 2018, 11:13 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I read somewhere that if you brushed it on, then used a really stiff bristled brush and dab it on the top you could replicate the stippled effect (I think you would have to coat the bristles with something like acetone so the seam seall will not stick). Have not seen it done, so I am not sure how good of a job it does.
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Jeff Hail |
Nov 22 2018, 10:40 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,141 Joined: 3-May 07 From: LA/ CA Member No.: 7,712 |
I read somewhere that if you brushed it on, then used a really stiff bristled brush and dab it on the top you could replicate the stippled effect (I think you would have to coat the bristles with something like acetone so the seam seall will not stick). Have not seen it done, so I am not sure how good of a job it does. Nope, its not self leveling. Too tacky. It will stand up on you. I've tried the brush dab method and blotting it back down with wax paper to get a "look". It will end up looking like Dr. Suess's worst nightmare. The sprayer is the way to go because it spits the product a bit at a time and the amount of build up is controlled to obtain the desired texture. |
mgphoto |
Nov 22 2018, 10:47 AM
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" Group: Members Posts: 1,339 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California |
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dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Nov 23 2018, 09:09 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,866 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
you only do it once so why not do it right? Cars are now to valuable to fudge it
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burton73 |
Nov 23 2018, 02:22 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,526 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
I read somewhere that if you brushed it on, then used a really stiff bristled brush and dab it on the top you could replicate the stippled effect (I think you would have to coat the bristles with something like acetone so the seam seall will not stick). Have not seen it done, so I am not sure how good of a job it does. Acetone is too hot and will evaporate too fast. Try Paint thiner. Old School stuff. It takes a long time to try and will give you some working time Bob B |
mgphoto |
Nov 23 2018, 02:36 PM
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" Group: Members Posts: 1,339 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California |
I read somewhere that if you brushed it on, then used a really stiff bristled brush and dab it on the top you could replicate the stippled effect (I think you would have to coat the bristles with something like acetone so the seam seall will not stick). Have not seen it done, so I am not sure how good of a job it does. Acetone is too hot and will evaporate too fast. Try Paint thiner. Old School stuff. It takes a long time to try and will give you some working time Bob B Use the same thinner you use for the primer and paint, introduce as few different chemicals as possible. I used urethane thinner with Deltron epoxy, than used it to sculpt and reduce the amount of seam sealer over certain joints. Stick dipped in the thinner, latex glove dipped in thinner can really smooth it out. |
Literati914 |
Nov 23 2018, 03:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 16-November 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 7,222 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Easy, buy Wurth SKS and get the gun. Our man Kirk matches it exactly. Is that gun the same that's used for general spraying of undercoating (wheel wells, etc), and just dialed down for a much tighter spray pattern? If that's the case, it makes the price easier to accept. |
bbrock |
Nov 23 2018, 03:49 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Easy, buy Wurth SKS and get the gun. Our man Kirk matches it exactly. Is that gun the same that's used for general spraying of undercoating (wheel wells, etc), and just dialed down for a much tighter spray pattern? If that's the case, it makes the price easier to accept. Unless Kirk has a secret, the Wurth gun is a $300 item. The Lord Fusor version is a little more reasonable at $165 but still a hefty price for a one-time use tool. |
Literati914 |
Nov 23 2018, 04:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 16-November 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 7,222 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Easy, buy Wurth SKS and get the gun. Our man Kirk matches it exactly. Is that gun the same that's used for general spraying of undercoating (wheel wells, etc), and just dialed down for a much tighter spray pattern? If that's the case, it makes the price easier to accept. Unless Kirk has a secret, the Wurth gun is a $300 item. The Lord Fusor version is a little more reasonable at $165 but still a hefty price for a one-time use tool. Well Wurth SKS is described as undercoating (stoneguard anyway), then there's this gun: http://www.goodspeedmotoring.com/wurth-sks...sealer-gun.html I'm thinking epoxy primer, brush on "seam sealer", followed by SKS, epoxy primer, color. |
bbrock |
Nov 23 2018, 04:18 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Easy, buy Wurth SKS and get the gun. Our man Kirk matches it exactly. Is that gun the same that's used for general spraying of undercoating (wheel wells, etc), and just dialed down for a much tighter spray pattern? If that's the case, it makes the price easier to accept. Unless Kirk has a secret, the Wurth gun is a $300 item. The Lord Fusor version is a little more reasonable at $165 but still a hefty price for a one-time use tool. Well Wurth SKS is described as undercoating, then there's this gun: http://www.goodspeedmotoring.com/wurth-sks...sealer-gun.html I'm thinking epoxy primer, brush on "seam sealer", followed by SKS, epoxy primer, color. Interesting. Would be great if that works. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
mgphoto |
Nov 23 2018, 07:40 PM
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" Group: Members Posts: 1,339 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California |
Seam sealer and undercoat guns are different.
Seam sealer will apply a bead of sealer at a continuous rate, tip is changed to spray the material. Undercoat gun shoots undercoat and cavity wax, $350 from Wurth. |
mmichalik |
Nov 24 2018, 04:02 PM
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MikeM Group: Members Posts: 697 Joined: 27-January 16 From: Valley Center, CA Member No.: 19,600 Region Association: Southern California |
Easy, buy Wurth SKS and get the gun. Our man Kirk matches it exactly. Is that gun the same that's used for general spraying of undercoating (wheel wells, etc), and just dialed down for a much tighter spray pattern? If that's the case, it makes the price easier to accept. Unless Kirk has a secret, the Wurth gun is a $300 item. The Lord Fusor version is a little more reasonable at $165 but still a hefty price for a one-time use tool. Well Wurth SKS is described as undercoating (stoneguard anyway), then there's this gun: http://www.goodspeedmotoring.com/wurth-sks...sealer-gun.html I'm thinking epoxy primer, brush on "seam sealer", followed by SKS, epoxy primer, color. I found that gun as well. If it's the right one, I'll get it right now. Can anyone verify if it is? |
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