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| Tdskip |
 Nov 30 2018, 08:08 AM
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Advanced Member  Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None 
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Yeah, I know, but absent a car with working ones it is a more legitimate question then it might initially appear. Maybe.
So I understand that something he has to rotate-but I'm not sure if is the clip mounted to the roof of the car where the sunvisor rod extends into the clips that rotate, or if the rods that extend out from the sunvisor rotate? I went to install my visors on the 1973 car and the mounting piece that holds the visor and screws into the roof broke when I tried to rotate it, so something is locked up and I'd like to know how it works so I can fix it before a break another clip. ( in my defense, none of the cars have sunvisors installed at this point so thanks for humoring the question) |
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| mepstein |
Nov 30 2018, 08:18 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,276 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Small clip in the sun visor tightens around the stationary rod. Adjustable tension with the sun visor screw. Just enough tension to hold it in place. You have to have a light touch when you rotate them.
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| sb914 |
Nov 30 2018, 08:26 AM
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Surf Guru Group: Members Posts: 4,303 Joined: 25-November 12 From: Brookings,Oregon Member No.: 15,191 Region Association: Southern California
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(IMG:| Tdskip |
Nov 30 2018, 08:27 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None
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Ah - so if the clip that screw into the roof is too tight things will break. SoCal heat probably makes these brittle over time as well.
Got it. Thanks! |
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| mepstein |
Nov 30 2018, 08:34 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,276 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(Tdskip @ Nov 30 2018, 09:27 AM)  Ah - so if the clip that screw into the roof is too tight things will break. SoCal heat probably makes these brittle over time as well. Got it. Thanks! Yes, A light touch or It will round out the hole in the plastic that is notched for the end of the pin. |
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Nov 30 2018, 09:07 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,866 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
the key is to sink the visor pin into the visor clip firmly even glue it in, then mount the visor to the center peg first, then add the outer peg and lift it up, put the screw in the outer clip peg assembly and finally tension the screws just enough to hold the visor up
QUOTE(Tdskip @ Nov 30 2018, 07:08 AM) Yeah, I know, but absent a car with working ones it is a more legitimate question then it might initially appear. Maybe. So I understand that something he has to rotate-but I'm not sure if is the clip mounted to the roof of the car where the sunvisor rod extends into the clips that rotate, or if the rods that extend out from the sunvisor rotate? I went to install my visors on the 1973 car and the mounting piece that holds the visor and screws into the roof broke when I tried to rotate it, so something is locked up and I'd like to know how it works so I can fix it before a break another clip. ( in my defense, none of the cars have sunvisors installed at this point so thanks for humoring the question) |
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| Tdskip |
Nov 30 2018, 09:12 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Nov 30 2018, 10:07 AM) the key is to sink the visor pin into the visor clip firmly even glue it in, then mount the visor to the center peg first, then add the outer peg and lift it up, put the screw in the outer clip peg assembly and finally tension the screws just enough to hold the visor up Thanks George! EDIT - that was supposed to be an! |
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| Tom_T |
Nov 30 2018, 10:14 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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Tdskip -
Also note that there are replacement clips still available from all sorts of sources, in aftermarket repros, & maybe still OEM. So replace all 4 clips if they're crusty, since they're not too expensive. Everything from a full set of repro visors with pins & clips - to them individually is available both here & in Europe now. I got a full visor-pins-clips set of these with the left map pocket & right vanity mirror with flap a coupla-few years back - before the US sellers were carrying them - & BTW, they also have the early no-mirror type (70-71 MY IIRC - check at p914.com -.org & -.net to be sure if you care for originality). https://oldtimer-ersatzteile24.de/Sun-visor...for-Porsche-914 They sell full sets with & without the vanity mirror/flap, as well as the pin & bracket set alone, & they are all heat seamed as with the originals (many repros are stitched), & their vinyl leatherette material is close, but not an exact match to the originals & whats on the 914 dash & other pads, etc. Follow what Mark & George said above to install, & tighten the screws in the visors last with only enough tension to keep them in place up, down, in between, & the side against the outboard swiveling bracket needs to stay loose enough to also slide - so that you can slide the visor away from the center brackets & allow it to swivel over to the side windows. IIRC your owners manual has some instructions on them too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
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| mepstein |
Nov 30 2018, 10:41 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,276 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Nov 30 2018, 11:14 AM) Tdskip - Also note that there are replacement clips still available from all sorts of sources, in aftermarket repros, & maybe still OEM. So replace all 4 clips if they're crusty, since they're not too expensive. Everything from a full set of repro visors with pins & clips - to them individually is available both here & in Europe now. I got a full visor-pins-clips set of these with the left map pocket & right vanity mirror with flap a coupla-few years back - before the US sellers were carrying them - & BTW, they also have the early no-mirror type (70-71 MY IIRC - check at p914.com -.org & -.net to be sure if you care for originality). https://oldtimer-ersatzteile24.de/Sun-visor...for-Porsche-914 They sell full sets with & without the vanity mirror/flap, as well as the pin & bracket set alone, & they are all heat seamed as with the originals (many repros are stitched), & their vinyl leatherette material is close, but not an exact match to the originals & whats on the 914 dash & other pads, etc. Follow what Mark & George said above to install, & tighten the screws in the visors last with only enough tension to keep them in place up, down, in between, & the side against the outboard swiveling bracket needs to stay loose enough to also slide - so that you can slide the visor away from the center brackets & allow it to swivel over to the side windows. IIRC your owners manual has some instructions on them too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) /////// Tom - you must be thinking of another car. 914 sun visors don’t swivel to the side windows. |
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| Tom_T |
Nov 30 2018, 02:30 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 30 2018, 09:41 AM) Tom - you must be thinking of another car. 914 sun visors don’t swivel to the side windows. Well I don't know about yours Mark, but mine do! .... & have since I bought in from the OO in 1975! They pivot on the single screw on each of the outside mounts, & the center pins are flat to be able to slide in & out, while the flat locks it in place. Or are you just jerking my chain Mark!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)   Maybe try loosening the outer mount screws on yours Mark, & try swiveling them!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
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| JawjaPorsche |
Nov 30 2018, 04:30 PM
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| bdstone914 |
Dec 1 2018, 09:16 AM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,522 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
QUOTE(Tom_T @ Nov 30 2018, 02:30 PM) QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 30 2018, 09:41 AM) Tom - you must be thinking of another car. 914 sun visors don’t swivel to the side windows. Well I don't know about yours Mark, but mine do! .... & have since I bought in from the OO in 1975! They pivot on the single screw on each of the outside mounts, & the center pins are flat to be able to slide in & out, while the flat locks it in place. Or are you just jerking my chain Mark!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Maybe try loosening the outer mount screws on yours Mark, & try swiveling them!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// I have never seen chrome visor pivot pins on a 75 car. All I have seen are black plastic. And never seen visors that swing to the side on a 914. |
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| TheCabinetmaker |
Dec 1 2018, 09:25 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
I'm with Bruce on this one, Tom. And, to the op, they do not attach to the roof, but the top of the windshield frame.
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| ConeDodger |
Dec 1 2018, 09:41 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,592 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Nov 30 2018, 05:30 PM) QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 30 2018, 09:41 AM) Tom - you must be thinking of another car. 914 sun visors don’t swivel to the side windows. Well I don't know about yours Mark, but mine do! .... & have since I bought in from the OO in 1975! They pivot on the single screw on each of the outside mounts, & the center pins are flat to be able to slide in & out, while the flat locks it in place. Or are you just jerking my chain Mark!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Maybe try loosening the outer mount screws on yours Mark, & try swiveling them!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// Mine don’t Tom. But mine are the 914Rubber ones so... Not original. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) |
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| mepstein |
Dec 1 2018, 10:01 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,276 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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None of them swivel. Maybe you are thinking your vanagon?
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| TheCabinetmaker |
Dec 1 2018, 10:21 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
I must say, i wish it were so. It's the only part of the car I've never liked.
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| mark04usa |
Dec 2 2018, 10:32 PM
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'70 1.7 Tangerine Group: Members Posts: 351 Joined: 14-September 09 From: Austin TX Member No.: 10,805 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Yes, it is true. Just as Tom has said, the stock 914 sun visors will swivel. I never knew this was possible in 42 years of 914 ownership! The feature doesn't work very well, though.
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| Larmo63 |
Dec 2 2018, 11:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Visors go up and down on the windshield only.
They do not swivel to the side windows or at least they weren't designed to. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) |
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| mark04usa |
Dec 2 2018, 11:31 PM
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'70 1.7 Tangerine Group: Members Posts: 351 Joined: 14-September 09 From: Austin TX Member No.: 10,805 Region Association: Southwest Region
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QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Dec 2 2018, 11:22 PM) Visors go up and down on the windshield only. They do not swivel to the side windows or at least they weren't designed to. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) Well, as you can see in the photo, yes, they do indeed swivel (though not very usably well), so believe it or not, they do swivel and the outter brackets are made to do this. Probably used in a VW application as well with different center bracket. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| Larmo63 |
Dec 2 2018, 11:55 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
They are NOT designed to swivel.
There is one screw holding the keeper to the top of the windshield trim and it has an indentation where the keeper is supposed to be screwed down tight. I beg to differ. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) |
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