Yeah, I know, but absent a car with working ones it is a more legitimate question then it might initially appear. Maybe.

So I understand that something he has to rotate-but I'm not sure if is the clip mounted to the roof of the car where the sunvisor rod extends into the clips that rotate, or if the rods that extend out from the sunvisor rotate?

I went to install my visors on the 1973 car and the mounting piece that holds the visor and screws into the roof broke when I tried to rotate it, so something is locked up and I'd like to know how it works so I can fix it before a break another clip.

( in my defense, none of the cars have sunvisors installed at this point so thanks for humoring the question)

Small clip in the sun visor tightens around the stationary rod. Adjustable tension with the sun visor screw. Just enough tension to hold it in place. You have to have a light touch when you rotate them.

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Ah - so if the clip that screw into the roof is too tight things will break. SoCal heat probably makes these brittle over time as well.

Got it.

Thanks!

Yes, A light touch or It will round out the hole in the plastic that is notched for the end of the pin.

the key is to sink the visor pin into the visor clip firmly even glue it in, then mount the visor to the center peg first, then add the outer peg and lift it up, put the screw in the outer clip peg assembly and finally tension the screws just enough to hold the visor up

Thanks George!

EDIT - that was supposed to be an!

Tdskip -

Also note that there are replacement clips still available from all sorts of sources, in aftermarket repros, & maybe still OEM.

So replace all 4 clips if they're crusty, since they're not too expensive.

Everything from a full set of repro visors with pins & clips - to them individually is available both here & in Europe now.

I got a full visor-pins-clips set of these with the left map pocket & right vanity mirror with flap a coupla-few years back - before the US sellers were carrying them - & BTW, they also have the early no-mirror type (70-71 MY IIRC - check at p914.com -.org & -.net to be sure if you care for originality).

https://oldtimer-ersatzteile24.de/Sun-visor...for-Porsche-914

They sell full sets with & without the vanity mirror/flap, as well as the pin & bracket set alone, & they are all heat seamed as with the originals (many repros are stitched), & their vinyl leatherette material is close, but not an exact match to the originals & whats on the 914 dash & other pads, etc.

Follow what Mark & George said above to install, & tighten the screws in the visors last with only enough tension to keep them in place up, down, in between, & the side against the outboard swiveling bracket needs to stay loose enough to also slide - so that you can slide the visor away from the center brackets & allow it to swivel over to the side windows.

IIRC your owners manual has some instructions on them too.


Tom
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Tom - you must be thinking of another car. 914 sun visors don’t swivel to the side windows.

Well I don't know about yours Mark, but mine do!
.... & have since I bought in from the OO in 1975!

They pivot on the single screw on each of the outside mounts, & the center pins are flat to be able to slide in & out, while the flat locks it in place.

Or are you just jerking my chain Mark!?

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Maybe try loosening the outer mount screws on yours Mark, & try swiveling them!?



Tom
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I have never seen chrome visor pivot pins on a 75 car. All I have seen are black plastic. And never seen visors that swing to the side on a 914.

I'm with Bruce on this one, Tom. And, to the op, they do not attach to the roof, but the top of the windshield frame.

Mine don’t Tom. But mine are the 914Rubber ones so...

Not original.

None of them swivel. Maybe you are thinking your vanagon?

I must say, i wish it were so. It's the only part of the car I've never liked.

Yes, it is true. Just as Tom has said, the stock 914 sun visors will swivel. I never knew this was possible in 42 years of 914 ownership! The feature doesn't work very well, though.Click to view attachment

Visors go up and down on the windshield only.

They do not swivel to the side windows or at least they weren't designed to.

Well, as you can see in the photo, yes, they do indeed swivel (though not very usably well), so believe it or not, they do swivel and the outter brackets are made to do this. Probably used in a VW application as well with different center bracket.

They are NOT designed to swivel.

There is one screw holding the keeper to the top of the windshield trim and it has an indentation where the keeper is supposed to be screwed down tight.

I beg to differ.

Well, differ all you want to, Lawrence...but you are incorrect as shown by the photos. I guess the post was not read and understood??? As the photo I took shows, I followed Tom's description, and you can see that my sun visor does swivel out because the outter bracket is made to do this. Even has a bump stop at 90 angle. Try it, and you will see that it does work...just not very well as it is setup in a 914.

They don't swivel. There is a pin on each end that is attached to a clip. So does yours have the clip at the center of the windshield by the mirror? If so, I would like to see how it is held in place as they are not designed swivel to the side.

Gerald, please read Tom's post...and mine...and look at the photos. I tried using the visor just as Tom described (yes, mine are original 1970 visors and hardware)....and mine do indeed swivel. So, though I did not believe that Tom was correct, I did the next step and actually investigated. I would suggest you guys actually read what was stated and try for yourselves before you try to further argue with my photo

So, you have to leave the screw on the outside mount loose, then remove the visor from the center pin to swivel it? I do not believe Porsche engineers designed it this way. I bought my first 914 from the dealer brand new in 1973. All the screws on the visor mounts were tight. If they really meant it to swivel, they would have come up with something better than that. If you leave that screw loose the weight of the visor will eventually strip the hole where the sheet metal screw inserts. Just my opinion

Just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should do it.

Where were you with that advise oh, say, 15 years ago?

Back on topic - I am happy this seemingly simple question has spawned this level of discussion and information sharing.

I did read it. They don't swivel, not by design anyway. Show me how yours are mounted by the center pin. The only way you can do it is by what Curt said and that is not how they are designed to work.

35 years ago. My first 914. I was 17. Driving through the snow with a pretty girl in the passenger seat. Drove by a sledding hill. Used the targa top as a sled. It worked but I’m betting the Porsche designers wouldn’t have approved.

Nor would your peers here today! Lol

This post is fun. Porsche 914 Design Team in 1970, "Hey team, if the owner's screw is loose he can rotate the visor for side window use. Porsche Cayenne design team in 2009. "Hey team, let's overdesign this visor so much that it will require two pages to describe in the owner's manual. My '09 CTTS has a dual visor arrangement on each side with the front one not only hinged but pivoting while the one behind it is only vertically hinged. My old Cayenne S TE even had a third visor in the center to flip down to block the area above the rear view mirror. Yup, if they had designed the 914's visors to pivot horizontally it would be obvious and not based on a loosened fitting.

German, not British.

If they'd have thought of that, it would be in a brochure somewhere. They didn't design the hood as a tanning bed either. Yet, there are those two bikini chicks.

I am curious about what happens to the center pivot when people swivel their visors to the side.

I did have one that did that, but the center pivot had broken. The plastic around the metal pin on the driver's side had failed, so the pin would not stay in the plastic part. Then, if the side screw were loose, you could actually pivot the visor to the side.

It would do that on its own, in fact. Because the center mount was broken, you see.

That being said, I do have visors that swivel in my car. Someone along the way designed (or adapted from another car) a center pivot that has small concavities that the inboard pins fit into. The outer pivots were re-designed with a cylindrical piece that does pivot on an offset screw near the mounting screw.

They don't work very well, though. The concavities don't hold the inboard pins very well, so they tend to flop around. Also, the mounting screw loosens up when you swivel the shades more than a couple of times, so the whole thing starts moving in an odd way.


... But the stock setup doesn't pivot unless something is broken ...

--DD

I agree.
Stock setup when correctly installed and the screws are tight.....sunvisors do not swivel.
And were never designed to do so.