Anyone install new front factory suspension bushings?, How'd you do it?? |
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Anyone install new front factory suspension bushings?, How'd you do it?? |
IronHillRestorations |
Dec 20 2018, 07:58 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,716 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
Anyone install new front factory suspension bushings? How'd you do it??
I just got a set from Porsche, and looking at the bushings, install could be interesting. |
Jacob |
Dec 20 2018, 08:24 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 131 Joined: 12-February 08 From: Mansfield, Oh Member No.: 8,705 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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Tdskip |
Dec 20 2018, 08:28 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
+1, lots of discussions that are applicable if you search on Porsche 911 front suspension refresh etc. because it’s all basically the same stuff.
I have to do this on one of mine as well, and can tell you that having done it on a 911 and 912 it is a very worthwhile job. Don’t be shy about asking questions or if you need help. |
iankarr |
Dec 20 2018, 09:01 AM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,472 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Thanks Jacob. Glad this video is helpful. The process is tricky and I went through a few sets of bushings during the install. @mikey914 and @matty900 we’re super helpful during production, assisting me in documenting the optimal process. As I mention in the video, it’s a good idea to order a few extras sets and return whatever you don’t use. I’m not sure about the Porsche OEM ones, but the 914rubber bushings aren’t expensive. For other people considering this, the elephant racing ones are a bunch more spendy last I checked and if you’re not going with polybronze, 914rubber’s versions are at least as good as theirs. The URO ones seem to be made to wider tolerances and, according to Elephant, use materials that aren’t as optimal. Whichever bushings you choose, this is not a job you want to do twice, so choose wisely. You can definitely do this with patience and by exactly sticking to the steps in the video. And the ride improvement is worth it. Others here in the brain trust are far more knowledgeable than I am and this community will support you every step of the way. Just be safe! |
IronHillRestorations |
Dec 20 2018, 09:43 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,716 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
I've got factory bushings, which I think are harder durometer than the aftermarket parts, and don't come with the install tools.
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bigkensteele |
Dec 20 2018, 11:48 AM
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Major Member Group: Members Posts: 2,197 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Cincinnati, OH Member No.: 2,660 Region Association: South East States |
I borrowed the Elephant Racing tools from a fellow member and used copious amounts of hand soap and my 12 ton HF press. I also used the Elephant instructions to index the ends. It is important that when pressing them on, they should be as close as possible to the final indexing because moving them is tough if you are concerned about scraping up your new powder coating.
914Rubber bushings are very close to the original in rubber stiffness. ER is not. |
IronHillRestorations |
Dec 20 2018, 12:33 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,716 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
Hmm, I wonder if anyone has the tools who’d loan to me
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76-914 |
Dec 22 2018, 09:22 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,495 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Hmm, I wonder if anyone has the tools who’d loan to me I did it w/o the tools using a bench press and glycerin. With your experience it will be a cake walk. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
n2j2ryan |
Dec 22 2018, 11:31 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 9-January 17 From: Victoria BC Member No.: 20,740 Region Association: Canada |
I just ordered a set including the tool, but probably won't install until the end of January. If you are not in a rush I could definitely send your way once finished.
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914forme |
Dec 22 2018, 12:04 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Both tools are easily machined locally if you know the sizes you need. Elephant installation video
Of course depending on the labor cost for. you our your local machinist, you might just want to spend the $225 and sell the bushings with installation service. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) If someone has a set they don't need anymore I am a tool hoarder, I would love to put a set in my 914 / 911 speciality tool drawer(s). collection keeps growing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
Larmo63 |
Dec 23 2018, 03:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
It's easy if I can do it.
Pop the plug off of the front end of the A arm and use long threaded stock down the inside, big fender washers, and big nuts. I borrowed the tools from Bruce Stone, I know they've made the rounds. As mentioned, watch the Elephant Racing video a couple times, an iPhone has the compass/degree app on it. |
bdstone914 |
Dec 23 2018, 05:32 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,517 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
Hmm, I wonder if anyone has the tools who’d loan to me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Yes someone will |
bdstone914 |
Dec 23 2018, 11:05 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,517 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
Hmm, I wonder if anyone has the tools who’d loan to me @IronHillRestorations Me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) I have installed all brands except Porsche. Uro are too soft and poor and inconsistant. Did 5 pairs of them. Easy to install cause they are too soft. 914 Rubber and Elephant are about the same stiffer material. I sold one set of originals at Pelican and they had a hard time with they until they used grease They were about $20 each. Elephant's tools are aluminum. 914 Rubber are Delrin. I like that material better. I prefer to use the 3 ft section of 5/8 or 3/4 inch threadall with steel discs and washers. Grease all friction surfaces. Especially with the aluminum. It galls easier. Heat and grease on the correct surfaces is the trick. Attached thumbnail(s) |
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