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Fuchs ,Fake or real, ? |
BK911 |
Jan 15 2019, 09:13 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 672 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Rocky Top, TN Member No.: 1,674 Region Association: None |
Didn't know the 901 Fuchs were 6J, thought they were just 6.
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Larmo63 |
Jan 15 2019, 03:11 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
The Fuchs (Fox) logo can be stamped with black ink, haphazardly.
Most of the time faint, or gone altogether. |
burton73 |
Jan 15 2019, 03:41 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,503 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
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PotterPorsche |
Jan 15 2019, 08:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Hayward CA Member No.: 16,628 Region Association: None |
Those are real. The fakes don’t have smooth corners on the back side.
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mepstein |
Jan 15 2019, 08:38 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Fake fuchs can look pretty good until you see them up against real fuchs and then they look wrong.
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Mark Henry |
Jan 15 2019, 09:34 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
the part numbers on the back is the key. Someone show us a replica fuchs wheel with the 901. or 911. part numbers on the back (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Porsche turns a blind eye to the repops, but if you're a biz don't call them Porsche or fuchs, same goes with the part numbers and logos. On the logo i'm sure companies like EMPI must be paying Porsche a royalty for center caps, but in the adverts they're just called a "Logo center cap". |
BK911 |
Jan 16 2019, 09:04 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 672 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Rocky Top, TN Member No.: 1,674 Region Association: None |
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sixnotfour |
Jan 16 2019, 09:38 AM
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bead types,,,,
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sixnotfour |
Jan 16 2019, 01:50 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,412 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
cant tell if these are 6 or 9 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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Unobtanium-inc |
Jan 16 2019, 02:02 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,199 Joined: 29-November 06 From: New York Member No.: 7,276 Region Association: None |
Didn't know the 901 Fuchs were 6J, thought they were just 6. Interesting point there BK. I've had several sets of deep 6s and all were 6*15. Never saw s 6J*15. Deep six with heart 6J X 15 For comparison flat six also 6J X 15 Let me know if anyone needs any other pics for examples, we have FUCHS, and more FUCHS. but remember when it comes to Porsche, never say never, they changed things constantly and the obsession that we show towards correctness had very little in comparison to what they were doing when they were building these cars. Attached thumbnail(s) Attached image(s) |
sixnotfour |
Jan 16 2019, 02:06 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,412 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Adam what is the date on your deep 6J ? 70/71
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Unobtanium-inc |
Jan 16 2019, 02:26 PM
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Adam what is the date on your deep 6J ? 70/71 I'm guessing 10/69, but it could also be 10/68, hard to read. Here is a non-heart deep six, dated 11/70, also 6J X 15. Attached thumbnail(s) |
mepstein |
Jan 16 2019, 03:02 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
"but remember when it comes to Porsche, never say never, they changed things constantly and the obsession that we show towards correctness had very little in comparison to what they were doing when they were building these cars."
So true. People are trying to make their cars "more correct" than the way they came from the factory. The upside down numbers are common as well as 15's labeled as 16's, 7's & 8's and visa versa. I really like Fuchs as wheels but the whole date code thing is boring. |
Mark Henry |
Jan 16 2019, 03:18 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
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So true, goes for all Porsche and VW parts. The workers didn't give a crap if they were pulling parts in correct numbers order, and both are well known for using up last years parts on next years car. Long before inventory tracking, they just grabbed shit from the bin, shelf... whatever what was tossed at them. |
Unobtanium-inc |
Jan 16 2019, 06:24 PM
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There is a funny story I heard one time about a guy who went to one of the PCA parades. There happened to be a bunch of Factory guys there, I think it was an annivasary of some sort. A guy was restoring his Carrera Speedster and he asked one of the Factory guy's if he had worked on the Carrera's. "Yah" was the answer. He was like "oh good" and proceeded to ask him if there was a template for all of the extra holes they drilled to lighten the cars, so they could put the holes in right place while restoring the car. The Factory guy said,"Vat, Vat, ve drill, ve drill, ve drill till we beat Ferrari!"
There are no absolutes in the world of Porsche. |
sixnotfour |
Jan 20 2019, 11:40 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,412 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE So true. People are trying to make their cars "more correct" than the way they came from the factory. The upside down numbers are common as well as 15's labeled as 16's, 7's & 8's and visa versa. I really like Fuchs as wheels but the whole date code thing is boring. untill your boss says sell those Fuchs... smiling face..mee too |
sixnotfour |
Jan 21 2019, 08:18 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,412 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Fuchs in Fox Head
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mepstein |
Jan 21 2019, 08:20 PM
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Real early ones were inked, later had raised dates. Many differences. Guys like Adam could explain. I don't care unless I'm selling.
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Unobtanium-inc |
Jan 22 2019, 12:22 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,199 Joined: 29-November 06 From: New York Member No.: 7,276 Region Association: None |
Real early ones were inked, later had raised dates. Many differences. Guys like Adam could explain. I don't care unless I'm selling. The only ones I've seen with just an ink stamp are very early 67S 15 X 4.5 FUCHS. But like I said, never say never. For example, people love to say when the transition for 15 X 4.5 to 15 X 5.5 for steel wheels happened, until I give them 2-3 examples of the same months on both sizes. Also, Bulldozer is right, we could use less guys bashing like Larmo. I love how people seem to think post count or time on here makes you more worthy of saying something. But lets follow that out, I've been on here 8 more years than Larmo, does that make my words more weighty? I own 3 914's, does that make me more important? No, nor should any of us act like that. I'll see if I can dig out some pics of the early ink stamps. |
SirAndy |
Jan 23 2019, 03:54 PM
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Cleaned up this thread, don't make me have to come back in here ...
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