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No 914 content but plenty of Porsche, Rod Emory’s latest |
gereed75 |
May 22 2019, 08:36 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,240 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
This car has been lurking around over the past few years in various states of completion, but this is the first I have seen it done. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h4tyqq8ip9I#fauxfullscreen
In a word - fabulous Came out much cooler than I thought it was heading. Rod is a talented creative guy. When will we see a Polo 914? |
mepstein |
May 22 2019, 08:41 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I usually like his cars but this one screams - UGLY.
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r_towle |
May 22 2019, 08:44 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,564 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
no....
Seems he has hit the limit on the 356 chassis. Interesting idea...BUTT ugly... Sorry |
bretth |
May 22 2019, 10:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 899 Joined: 23-June 15 From: Central TX Member No.: 18,882 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I kind of like the rear view but the front is awful.
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7TPorsh |
May 22 2019, 11:15 PM
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7T Porsh Group: Members Posts: 2,691 Joined: 27-March 06 From: Glendale Ca Member No.: 5,782 Region Association: Southern California |
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porschetub |
May 22 2019, 11:49 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,697 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
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gereed75 |
May 23 2019, 07:43 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,240 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
I really understand the ugly comments - purely from an esthetic point of view. But I like it from a tribute/continuation/boy racer point of view.
Can’t argue the build quality though. |
JmuRiz |
May 23 2019, 07:51 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,423 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Amazing build, I'm guessing it's built for Momo (all the momo bits on it), crazy details and work gone into it.
But like other's say, a 356 doesn't look right as an IMSA-like silhouette car. BTW no reason to do a POLO engine in a 914, since it's not hanging off the rear end of the car...and they are $$$$$, like 1.5-2x the price of a /6 build |
Optimusglen |
May 23 2019, 08:19 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 901 Joined: 26-February 16 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 19,709 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
It's a massive project that's for sure. There are some design elements that don't sit right with me but it certainly has appeal. It's easy to sit back and critique it, harder to actually build something.
The engine is a masterpiece, contrary to popular belief it is not just a chopped 6. Many, many, hours of R&D have gone into it. I caught a small glimpse of it when talking to the engineer behind it who never gets any notoriety. It's a marvelous piece of engineering. |
mepstein |
May 23 2019, 08:20 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Amazing build, I'm guessing it's built for Momo (all the momo bits on it), crazy details and work gone into it. But like other's say, a 356 doesn't look right as an IMSA-like silhouette car. BTW no reason to do a POLO engine in a 914, since it's not hanging off the rear end of the car...and they are $$$$$, like 1.5-2x the price of a /6 build It sounded like this was a new 964 type casting, not a Polo. It’s a very cool engine but I’m not sure it makes sense other than a way to spend really big money. Sure a 4 is lighter and smaller than a six but then your going to hang twin turbos off the back so I’m sure most if not all the weight and size was added back in. It’s not hard to do 375 hp on a 964/993 engine so getting it in a TT4 is cool but .... I think someone did a silver 914 with almost the same front end. It was fugly. |
Cairo94507 |
May 23 2019, 08:37 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,714 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
Not my taste at all.
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cali914 |
May 23 2019, 08:56 AM
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cali914 Group: Members Posts: 447 Joined: 26-April 06 From: Berkeley Ca. Member No.: 5,934 Region Association: Northern California |
I like it. I don't know why you guys are calling it ugly. Ugly is the old AMC Gremlin.
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Dave_Darling |
May 23 2019, 09:21 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,981 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
The engine is a masterpiece, contrary to popular belief it is not just a chopped 6. My understanding (though that comes from magazine articles) was that the original versions were chopped 911 engines. In particular, the crankcase and cam towers were cut; the heads are individual already, and the cam and crankshaft of course were made for them. (Cast? Forged?) Once they had proved the concept, they moved on to having the cases cast. Not sure about the cam towers, but if you're doing a casting for the crankcase already... Though as I said, this is from magazine articles so it may be less than perfectly correct. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) --DD |
Jonathan Livesay |
May 23 2019, 10:09 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 740 Joined: 13-March 10 From: La Canada CA Member No.: 11,461 Region Association: None |
Oops.
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Jonathan Livesay |
May 23 2019, 10:11 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 740 Joined: 13-March 10 From: La Canada CA Member No.: 11,461 Region Association: None |
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mepstein |
May 23 2019, 12:00 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The engine is a masterpiece, contrary to popular belief it is not just a chopped 6. My understanding (though that comes from magazine articles) was that the original versions were chopped 911 engines. In particular, the crankcase and cam towers were cut; the heads are individual already, and the cam and crankshaft of course were made for them. (Cast? Forged?) Once they had proved the concept, they moved on to having the cases cast. Not sure about the cam towers, but if you're doing a casting for the crankcase already... Though as I said, this is from magazine articles so it may be less than perfectly correct. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) --DD Yes, they said in the video the first engines that other people did were chopped but this was a new casting. I get it, it's a showpiece and creating something controversial actually gets it more press than something cool but under the radar. Like a previous poster said, it's all ready all over the internet where a super nice 356 restoration won't get much eyeballs. But even if I don't think it's pretty, I think it's a hell of a build. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) |
914_7T3 |
May 23 2019, 12:27 PM
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Please forgive me, I'm new to all of this! Group: Members Posts: 1,846 Joined: 3-April 17 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 20,991 Region Association: Southern California |
The engine is a masterpiece, contrary to popular belief it is not just a chopped 6. My understanding (though that comes from magazine articles) was that the original versions were chopped 911 engines. In particular, the crankcase and cam towers were cut; the heads are individual already, and the cam and crankshaft of course were made for them. (Cast? Forged?) Once they had proved the concept, they moved on to having the cases cast. Not sure about the cam towers, but if you're doing a casting for the crankcase already... Though as I said, this is from magazine articles so it may be less than perfectly correct. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) --DD Yes, they said in the video the first engines that other people did were chopped but this was a new casting. I get it, it's a showpiece and creating something controversial actually gets it more press than something cool but under the radar. Like a previous poster said, it's all ready all over the internet where a super nice 356 restoration won't get much eyeballs. But even if I don't think it's pretty, I think it's a hell of a build. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Had the opportunity to see it first hand at Rod's shop prior to completion. Here are some photos of it late in the build process before paint. The build quality is exceptional, Period! Attached image(s) |
Maltese Falcon |
May 23 2019, 05:33 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,634 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
It's a massive project that's for sure. There are some design elements that don't sit right with me but it certainly has appeal. It's easy to sit back and critique it, harder to actually build something. The engine is a masterpiece, contrary to popular belief it is not just a chopped 6. Many, many, hours of R&D have gone into it. I caught a small glimpse of it when talking to the engineer behind it who never gets any notoriety. It's a marvelous piece of engineering. Dean Polopolus the developer (aka the Polo ) of the engine not only gets no mention, but there is a copy of his engine being mfg. The copy-engine is very hard to discern from the Polo. So...not knowing more about that bit of reverse engineering; the valve covers (seen in early pictures of the build) on this 356 are stamped EMORY. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder (keyholder ?), in this case the Momo folks got every dime spent on their custom build that they wanted. |
jb57tub |
May 23 2019, 07:52 PM
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jb57tub Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 9-January 19 From: Corpus Christi, Tx Member No.: 22,790 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I always liked the baby turbo 356 they did several years ago. An outlaw with style!
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gereed75 |
May 24 2019, 03:30 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,240 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
My understanding is that there is the Polo motor and then there is this version developed by Emory and Rothsport. Rod mentions a short version of the evolution in the video. Not sure why you would go to all the trouble to develope your own when the Polo is already out there, but I am sure they had their reasons
He mentions at one point that this motor is for their exclusive use, not for public consumption. I guess it is another way to distinguish the Emory brand. I |
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