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> How much does a 2.7 / 3.0/ 3.2 change the feel of the car?
Tdskip
post Jun 16 2019, 07:21 AM
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Happy Father’s Day gentlemen.

I just drove a ‘74 2.0 car from central OR down the coast back to SoCal (great trip, car was totally reliable) and somewhere on a single lane carving through the redwoods outside Eureka I wondered “yeah, the extra power would be nice but would it make the car feel heavier”.

So,is there a trade off in perceived weight or having the car be less eager to dance that comes with a /6 conversion? My intention is to keep whatever car I covert a narrow body and subtle so built GTs aren’t really the best point of feedback.

Thanks!
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post Jun 17 2019, 06:06 AM
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The /6 can do ( all day long) what a big 4 can do for
( 90 mins )
On. Angeles crest

But as colin champman would say
There is no replacement for "performance thru lightweight"

So i personally stay away from /6 build/dreams
And i rarely run my big /4 for longer then 90 mins
So works out well for me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)


Not that im not tempted
With a 3.6 in the fs forum here for 18k

Temptation is everywhere
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post Jun 17 2019, 07:22 AM
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QUOTE(thelogo @ Jun 17 2019, 08:06 AM) *

The /6 can do ( all day long) what a big 4 can do for
( 90 mins )
On. Angeles crest

But as colin champman would say
There is no replacement for "performance thru lightweight"

So i personally stay away from /6 build/dreams
And i rarely run my big /4 for longer then 90 mins
So works out well for me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)


Not that im not tempted
With a 3.6 in the fs forum here for 18k

Temptation is everywhere


I call BS on that for a proper sorted T4, Last summer about a 80-90F day I drove my 2600cc (78 x 102mm) for 4 hours to London Ont, average 85mph but it was all stop and go through Toronto. Then 4 hours back. My head temps never went much over 300F.
Except for the exhaust drone and rough ride of the lowered bug I'd have no worries driving my T4 coast to coast.

My old type 1 2007cc (78 X 90.5mm) I drove to florida, Manassas VA for shows, all over...then I put it in my 67 bus and drove to PEI, Halifax, Bay of Fundy and home, I think the trip was close to 3000 miles.

A big engine can be built to be reliable, it just costs money, time, research and sorting to do it right.
If your big T4 isn't reliable you built the wrong combo.
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post Jun 17 2019, 07:31 AM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Jun 17 2019, 09:22 AM) *

QUOTE(thelogo @ Jun 17 2019, 08:06 AM) *

The /6 can do ( all day long) what a big 4 can do for
( 90 mins )
On. Angeles crest

But as colin champman would say
There is no replacement for "performance thru lightweight"

So i personally stay away from /6 build/dreams
And i rarely run my big /4 for longer then 90 mins
So works out well for me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)


Not that im not tempted
With a 3.6 in the fs forum here for 18k

Temptation is everywhere


I call BS on that for a proper sorted T4, Last summer about a 80-90F day I drove my 2600cc (78 x 102mm) for 4 hours to London Ont, average 85mph but it was all stop and go through Toronto. Then 4 hours back. My head temps never went much over 300F.
Except for the exhaust drone and rough ride of the lowered bug I'd have no worries driving my T4 coast to coast.

My old type 1 2007cc (78 X 90.5mm) I drove to florida, Manassas VA for shows, all over...then I put it in my 67 bus and drove to PEI, Halifax, Bay of Fundy and home, I think the trip was close to 3000 miles.

A big engine can be built to be reliable, it just costs money, time, research and sorting to do it right.
If your big T4 isn't reliable you built the wrong combo.


I drove Oscar's 2.4-4 at WCR. Fantastic car. Never hesitated the entire weekend, driving warm weather up mountain roads. I'm not a four hater.
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Jun 17 2019, 06:31 AM) *

QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Jun 17 2019, 09:22 AM) *

QUOTE(thelogo @ Jun 17 2019, 08:06 AM) *

The /6 can do ( all day long) what a big 4 can do for
( 90 mins )
On. Angeles crest

But as colin champman would say
There is no replacement for "performance thru lightweight"

So i personally stay away from /6 build/dreams
And i rarely run my big /4 for longer then 90 mins
So works out well for me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)


Not that im not tempted
With a 3.6 in the fs forum here for 18k

Temptation is everywhere


I call BS on that for a proper sorted T4, Last summer about a 80-90F day I drove my 2600cc (78 x 102mm) for 4 hours to London Ont, average 85mph but it was all stop and go through Toronto. Then 4 hours back. My head temps never went much over 300F.
Except for the exhaust drone and rough ride of the lowered bug I'd have no worries driving my T4 coast to coast.

My old type 1 2007cc (78 X 90.5mm) I drove to florida, Manassas VA for shows, all over...then I put it in my 67 bus and drove to PEI, Halifax, Bay of Fundy and home, I think the trip was close to 3000 miles.

A big engine can be built to be reliable, it just costs money, time, research and sorting to do it right.
If your big T4 isn't reliable you built the wrong combo.


I drove Oscar's 2.4-4 at WCR. Fantastic car. Never hesitated the entire weekend, driving warm weather up mountain roads. I'm not a four hater.



Think that is a Raby motor in that car but not sure.

That was a fun drive.
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post Jun 17 2019, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(914_teener @ Jun 17 2019, 12:05 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Jun 17 2019, 06:31 AM) *

QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Jun 17 2019, 09:22 AM) *

QUOTE(thelogo @ Jun 17 2019, 08:06 AM) *

The /6 can do ( all day long) what a big 4 can do for
( 90 mins )
On. Angeles crest

But as colin champman would say
There is no replacement for "performance thru lightweight"

So i personally stay away from /6 build/dreams
And i rarely run my big /4 for longer then 90 mins
So works out well for me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)


Not that im not tempted
With a 3.6 in the fs forum here for 18k

Temptation is everywhere


I call BS on that for a proper sorted T4, Last summer about a 80-90F day I drove my 2600cc (78 x 102mm) for 4 hours to London Ont, average 85mph but it was all stop and go through Toronto. Then 4 hours back. My head temps never went much over 300F.
Except for the exhaust drone and rough ride of the lowered bug I'd have no worries driving my T4 coast to coast.

My old type 1 2007cc (78 X 90.5mm) I drove to florida, Manassas VA for shows, all over...then I put it in my 67 bus and drove to PEI, Halifax, Bay of Fundy and home, I think the trip was close to 3000 miles.

A big engine can be built to be reliable, it just costs money, time, research and sorting to do it right.
If your big T4 isn't reliable you built the wrong combo.


I drove Oscar's 2.4-4 at WCR. Fantastic car. Never hesitated the entire weekend, driving warm weather up mountain roads. I'm not a four hater.



Think that is a Raby motor in that car but not sure.

That was a fun drive.

Yes. An older Raby build with an estimated 170hp. If it was my car, I would be happy. With a better driver behind the wheel it could keep up with most anyone.
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Tdskip   How much does a 2.7 / 3.0/ 3.2 change the feel of the car?   Jun 16 2019, 07:21 AM
mb911   They feel a little heavier but honestly they feel ...   Jun 16 2019, 07:46 AM
mb911   I also would consider a 2.2 and 2.4 that is kind o...   Jun 16 2019, 07:52 AM
Krieger   I when I go from driving my 3.0 six to my built 4 ...   Jun 16 2019, 08:03 AM
Coondog   I when I go from driving my 3.0 six to my built 4...   Jun 16 2019, 12:55 PM
buck toenges   I use to think my 3.2 felt heavier then a 4 cylind...   Jun 16 2019, 08:14 AM
mepstein   I use to think my 3.2 felt heavier then a 4 cylin...   Jun 16 2019, 08:53 AM
Larmo63   There is really no comparison. If you drove my car...   Jun 16 2019, 10:04 AM
Tdskip   OK, OK. I’m convinced (again). Now to figure ou...   Jun 16 2019, 12:05 PM
campbellcj   Bear in mind there's also some weight differen...   Jun 16 2019, 12:25 PM
Tdskip   Bear in mind there's also some weight differe...   Jun 16 2019, 12:38 PM
ConeDodger   Probably the most notable difference between my 22...   Jun 16 2019, 12:44 PM
Tdskip   Probably the most notable difference between my 2...   Jun 16 2019, 01:02 PM
mepstein   Probably the most notable difference between my ...   Jun 16 2019, 01:53 PM
Mark Henry   Probably the most notable difference between my 2...   Jun 16 2019, 03:13 PM
mtc911   This probably goes in the category of really stupi...   Jun 16 2019, 12:55 PM
Tdskip   This probably goes in the category of really stup...   Jun 16 2019, 01:03 PM
mb911   If you do it yourself then 5-6k in parts if you al...   Jun 16 2019, 01:15 PM
mepstein   If you do it yourself then 5-6k in parts if you a...   Jun 16 2019, 01:45 PM
horizontally-opposed   ^ Some great input above. My 2.2 six conversion ...   Jun 16 2019, 02:08 PM
rgalla9146   ^ Some great input above. My 2.2 six conversion...   Jun 16 2019, 03:30 PM
IronHillRestorations   A 3.0 or 3.2 is a torque monster. The first time ...   Jun 16 2019, 02:37 PM
patssle   With a 3.0L in mine I really don't feel that m...   Jun 16 2019, 02:55 PM
mb911   :agree: I like the smaller 2-2.4 only because th...   Jun 16 2019, 03:30 PM
Tdskip   :agree: I like the smaller 2-2.4 only because t...   Jun 17 2019, 07:16 AM
Tdskip   Great discussion gentlemen.   Jun 16 2019, 08:47 PM
Larmo63   RE: How much does a 2.7 / 3.0/ 3.2 change the feel of the car?   Jun 16 2019, 09:53 PM
thelogo   The /6 can do ( all day long) what a big 4 can do ...   Jun 17 2019, 06:06 AM
mepstein   The /6 can do ( all day long) what a big 4 can do...   Jun 17 2019, 06:41 AM
Tdskip   The /6 can do ( all day long) what a big 4 can do...   Jun 17 2019, 06:55 AM
thelogo   The /6 can do ( all day long) what a big 4 can d...   Jun 17 2019, 07:23 AM
Mark Henry   The /6 can do ( all day long) what a big 4 can do...   Jun 17 2019, 07:22 AM
thelogo   The /6 can do ( all day long) what a big 4 can d...   Jun 17 2019, 07:27 AM
mepstein   The /6 can do ( all day long) what a big 4 can d...   Jun 17 2019, 07:31 AM
914_teener   [quote name='Mark Henry' post='2723291' date='Jun...   Jun 17 2019, 10:05 AM
mepstein   [quote name='Mark Henry' post='2723291' date='Ju...   Jun 17 2019, 10:45 AM
Tdskip   It would be interesting to see a big four (2.2 or ...   Jun 17 2019, 08:16 AM
thelogo   It would be interesting to see a big four (2.2 or...   Jun 17 2019, 08:37 AM
Mark Henry   It would be interesting to see a big four (2.2 or...   Jun 17 2019, 10:57 AM
mepstein   It would be interesting to see a big four (2.2 o...   Jun 17 2019, 11:08 AM
thelogo   [quote name='Mark Henry' post='2723337' date='Jun...   Jun 17 2019, 01:37 PM
andys   Back about 1974, I had a 1973 914-4. 2.0L, and my ...   Jun 17 2019, 10:19 AM
burton73   Tdskip, I would go with the 3.2 that you have and...   Jun 17 2019, 04:25 PM
914 Ranch   It makes you crazy, you'll do anything to your...   Jun 17 2019, 05:28 PM
thelogo   It makes you crazy, you'll do anything to you...   Jun 17 2019, 06:16 PM


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