Need advice on SCAT engine selection 2.0L vs 2056, Want to use L-Jet from old 1.8L |
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Need advice on SCAT engine selection 2.0L vs 2056, Want to use L-Jet from old 1.8L |
rbzymek |
Jun 24 2019, 12:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 5-April 19 From: Northville, MI Member No.: 23,013 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
So i need to replace the 1.8 and I would really like a 2056. I also want to keep the L-Jet for the great driveability. If I request SCAT to build a 2056 with a normal 2.0L cam will that work with L-Jet? As an alternate should I just buy a 2.0L with FI cam? Since I will be using a vane meter system I would expect that I can dial in the AFR with my wide band meter. Has anyone done that before?
Ray |
Tdskip |
Jun 24 2019, 01:02 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Certainly get advice here but I’d not hesitate to pick up the phone and call them. I’m sure that other people have asked this seem quite reasonable/intelligent question and they have a point of view.
You could always have one of the well regarded engine builders here build you whatever you wanted, it’s another good option to keep in mind. |
914Sixer |
Jun 24 2019, 01:29 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,874 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
76 912E was a 2.0L with L-Jet. 2.0L VW Bus also used L-Jet. I would think there is information on the VW Bus side that would have answers for you. Look around the forums over on theSamba.com
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Mark Henry |
Jun 24 2019, 01:53 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I've built a 2056 Ljet, but it had 2.0 914 heads and a WEB #73 cam.
Ran great (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Bleyseng |
Jun 24 2019, 01:57 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I am running a Raby 9550 (a Web 73 basically) and Len Hoffman heads with Ljet in my 77 Westy. Yeah, easy to adjust the AFR so yes its a no brainer.
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rbzymek |
Jun 24 2019, 02:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 5-April 19 From: Northville, MI Member No.: 23,013 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I am running a Raby 9550 (a Web 73 basically) and Len Hoffman heads with Ljet in my 77 Westy. Yeah, easy to adjust the AFR so yes its a no brainer. Thanks for the feedback and advice on which cam to use which was my biggest concern. I am open to more comments if they are out there. Ray |
rbzymek |
Jun 24 2019, 02:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 5-April 19 From: Northville, MI Member No.: 23,013 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I am running a Raby 9550 (a Web 73 basically) and Len Hoffman heads with Ljet in my 77 Westy. Yeah, easy to adjust the AFR so yes its a no brainer. Thanks for the feedback and advice on which cam to use which was my biggest concern. I am open to more comments if they are out there. Ray By the way, besides SCAT, where should I look for a 2056 long block and Web 73 cam? I prefer to have an expert do the engine internals. The engine pull and replace will be enough work for me. |
thelogo |
Jun 24 2019, 09:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
So i need to replace the 1.8 and I would really like a 2056. I also want to keep the L-Jet for the great driveability. If I request SCAT to build a 2056 with a normal 2.0L cam will that work with L-Jet? As an alternate should I just buy a 2.0L with FI cam? Since I will be using a vane meter system I would expect that I can dial in the AFR with my wide band meter. Has anyone done that before? Ray Can i ask why the scat longblock instead of Rebuild your 1.8 ? Including all the original Ljet stuff. And you have the perfect compatibility Of course using bigger p's and c's and head work if you want . 1911? + |
djway |
Jun 25 2019, 01:14 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 16-October 15 From: Riverside Member No.: 19,266 Region Association: Southern California |
So i need to replace the 1.8 and I would really like a 2056. I also want to keep the L-Jet for the great driveability. If I request SCAT to build a 2056 with a normal 2.0L cam will that work with L-Jet? As an alternate should I just buy a 2.0L with FI cam? Since I will be using a vane meter system I would expect that I can dial in the AFR with my wide band meter. Has anyone done that before? Ray The car I drive was all messed up and someone had been inside the AFM to compensate for other issues. I made an attachment for the exhaust tip then ran up and down the freeway, pull off and adjust the tension, got back on until I got the mix right. It works. |
sixnotfour |
Jun 25 2019, 01:27 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,419 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE By the way, besides SCAT, where should I look for a 2056 long block and Web 73 cam? I prefer to have an expert do the engine internals. The engine pull and replace will be enough work for me. Original Customs..MI.. http://www.originalcustoms.com/index.php Tangerine Racing.. CT. http://www.tangerineracing.com/contact_us.htm |
saigon71 |
Jun 25 2019, 05:22 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,998 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Dillsburg, PA Member No.: 10,428 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Another cam option for stock FI is the FAT 440MP. Slighltly more aggressive than stock.
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rbzymek |
Jun 25 2019, 05:35 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 5-April 19 From: Northville, MI Member No.: 23,013 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
So i need to replace the 1.8 and I would really like a 2056. I also want to keep the L-Jet for the great driveability. If I request SCAT to build a 2056 with a normal 2.0L cam will that work with L-Jet? As an alternate should I just buy a 2.0L with FI cam? Since I will be using a vane meter system I would expect that I can dial in the AFR with my wide band meter. Has anyone done that before? Ray Can i ask why the scat longblock instead of Rebuild your 1.8 ? Including all the original Ljet stuff. And you have the perfect compatibility Of course using bigger p's and c's and head work if you want . 1911? + It went seriously overtemp last week before I noticed the temp gauge. I adjusted the AFR at cruise to 14 and it may have had a stuck vane/thermostat. I will do a compression check tonight but I think I lost one cylinder.The SCAT 2056 for around $3600 looks hard to beat unless you know a better way. I need more cc's and a higher compression ratio to improve the 76 HP with the 1.8. Perhaps I need to investigate the 1911 option and price it out. I am concerned that the heads are toast but maybe not. Suggestions are welcome. Thanks. Ray |
rbzymek |
Jun 25 2019, 03:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 5-April 19 From: Northville, MI Member No.: 23,013 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
So i need to replace the 1.8 and I would really like a 2056. I also want to keep the L-Jet for the great driveability. If I request SCAT to build a 2056 with a normal 2.0L cam will that work with L-Jet? As an alternate should I just buy a 2.0L with FI cam? Since I will be using a vane meter system I would expect that I can dial in the AFR with my wide band meter. Has anyone done that before? Ray Can i ask why the scat longblock instead of Rebuild your 1.8 ? Including all the original Ljet stuff. And you have the perfect compatibility Of course using bigger p's and c's and head work if you want . 1911? + It went seriously overtemp last week before I noticed the temp gauge. I adjusted the AFR at cruise to 14 and it may have had a stuck vane/thermostat. I will do a compression check tonight but I think I lost one cylinder.The SCAT 2056 for around $3600 looks hard to beat unless you know a better way. I need more cc's and a higher compression ratio to improve the 76 HP with the 1.8. Perhaps I need to investigate the 1911 option and price it out. I am concerned that the heads are toast but maybe not. Suggestions are welcome. Thanks. Ray So I reached into the fan and pulled out a plastic grocery bag.....the reason it went overtemp in the first place. Compression is 88-95-95-105, not great. Next change the oil and spark plugs to see if it will run decently. Ray |
thelogo |
Jun 25 2019, 07:09 PM
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Tdskip |
Jun 26 2019, 06:12 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
That is a bummer. It sounds like the engine is tired at this point. It’s certainly easy to have a fresh engine show up and just put the ancillaries on and off you go. You can always try selling your engine as a core to offset some of the cost.
I may be wrong, but it sounds to me like you want to buy a rebuilt engine from them so why not just do it? |
rbzymek |
Jun 26 2019, 07:24 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 5-April 19 From: Northville, MI Member No.: 23,013 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
That is a bummer. It sounds like the engine is tired at this point. It’s certainly easy to have a fresh engine show up and just put the ancillaries on and off you go. You can always try selling your engine as a core to offset some of the cost. I may be wrong, but it sounds to me like you want to buy a rebuilt engine from them so why not just do it? That's probably what I will do. I do have some other things going on plus I would like to drive the car this summer a bit if that is possible. Thanks for the cpre suggestion. I forgot to account for that. Ray |
JOEPROPER |
Jun 26 2019, 07:55 AM
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The answer is "no" unless you ask... Group: Members Posts: 1,184 Joined: 21-November 15 From: White Plains New York Member No.: 19,387 Region Association: North East States |
Buy the motor and put it in. should take a weekend. You can drive it to the BBQ on 4th of July.
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rbzymek |
Jun 26 2019, 09:14 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 5-April 19 From: Northville, MI Member No.: 23,013 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Buy the motor and put it in. should take a weekend. You can drive it to the BBQ on 4th of July. Well there is a five week lead time so I will be a little late for the Barby. I will need to get some 2.0L tin and new intake runners as well. I also want to change the master cylinder and put in SS fuel lines at the same time. Probably in August......Thanks. |
914werke |
Jun 26 2019, 09:32 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,037 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Here is one that will get you going before the 4th (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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thelogo |
Jun 26 2019, 09:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
If im reading it right and like to think i am Your letting it go for 5k or 10k And where are you located Cause this is a steal (unless your located in syberia) |
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