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> Major Cooling System issues, Flap system removed by PO
Gatornapper
post Aug 20 2019, 09:29 AM
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Need the Brain Trust help again - big time.

Up to now, nothing I've faced in getting this sweet 14 running and back on the road has been major or disheartening. Lots of new stuff, running pretty good but not perfect, etc. That just changed.

Ever since getting the engine running a few months ago, I was concerned that it took a long time to warm up. My first 1 hour + drive was last week - and temps got too high for my comfort - about 1/4" from red line. So I've been drilling down on that issue.

For one thing, car sat in a barn (new one) for 12 years - so I wondered about mice nests above the cylinders from the day I bought the car. Yesterday with my scope I found, yes, they are there between the cylinders - at least between 2 & 4. I think I can get them out with a small vacuum through the spark plug holes in the top tins.....we'll see.

Due to total ignorance of 914's and VW engines, I know nothing of the air ducting system, but in the learning process, and thanks to anderssj , I find the whole flap/door system and its controls are missing. Gone.

So I can only assume that the PO removed them due to problems with overheating. Stupid move for sure. I have to correct that. I understand that move itself could cause overheating.

I dread pulling the carbs, intake manifolds, distributor and other stuff to get the top tins off.

Plan is to see if I can get the mouse stuff off the cylinders with a small vacuum, make sure all is clean with my scope. If successful, I'll then drive the car and see if it still gets too hot. If I can't get the debris removed with vacuum, I know I have to pull the top tins.

But I am told that not having the flap system itself could cause overheating. So I have to get that system installed and working.

Yes, I know the many potential causes of overheating like improper timing, plugs, etc. Timing good, plugs good - new. Valves adjusted by dealer about 1,500 miles ago.

Got a lot of work ahead - all when I wanted to have the car ready for the big PCA 9/14 914 Vintage Drive.

Any help and advice is of course, as always, appreciated.

GN
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Gatornapper   Major Cooling System issues   Aug 20 2019, 09:29 AM
Mblizzard   Did you scope the oil cooler to ensure that it was...   Aug 20 2019, 10:14 AM
malcolm2   Did you scope the oil cooler to ensure that it wa...   Aug 20 2019, 11:00 AM
Mblizzard   [quote name='Mblizzard' post='2739976' date='Aug ...   Aug 20 2019, 11:03 AM
Ansbacher   You sound a bit like a doctor that needs to perfor...   Aug 20 2019, 10:24 AM
Porschef   You may want to consider dropping the engine. Heck...   Aug 20 2019, 10:27 AM
malcolm2   You may want to consider dropping the engine. Hec...   Aug 20 2019, 10:59 AM
SirAndy   You may want to consider dropping the engine. Heck...   Aug 20 2019, 11:27 AM
cuddy_k   :agree: Trying to remove the tins with the engin...   Aug 20 2019, 10:40 AM
rhodyguy   Remove the carbs as a unit not to include the inta...   Aug 20 2019, 11:53 AM
malcolm2   https://www.ratwell.com/technical/Thermostats.html...   Aug 20 2019, 12:14 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   you MUST reinstall the flaps!!!!...   Aug 20 2019, 12:24 PM
Superhawk996   I sort of wonder how this whole pull the flaps myt...   Aug 20 2019, 04:21 PM
bretth   I sort of wonder how this whole pull the flaps my...   Aug 20 2019, 04:31 PM
porschetub   Do it once and do it right,good chance to check ev...   Aug 20 2019, 04:34 PM
rhodyguy   This is how it starts. 'While you're in th...   Aug 20 2019, 06:46 PM
Spoke   You need to drop the engine. You have enough stuff...   Aug 20 2019, 07:20 PM
ClayPerrine   Drop the motor. It's easy. Once its out, then...   Aug 20 2019, 08:02 PM
Gatornapper   Guys all - I hear you, loud and clear. Engine w...   Aug 20 2019, 08:31 PM
Superhawk996   No compression in 3 & 4 - 60 psi. Was 90/1...   Aug 21 2019, 04:26 AM
Gatornapper   Superhawk - Was MY BAD, not the dealer who check...   Aug 21 2019, 05:33 AM
Mblizzard   Superhawk - Was MY BAD, not the dealer who chec...   Aug 21 2019, 07:05 AM
falcor75   When you've pulled the driveshafts from the ge...   Aug 21 2019, 05:39 AM
Gatornapper   Great tip! I use plastic bags for similar con...   Aug 21 2019, 12:30 PM
Superhawk996   My bad - jumping to a conclusion. :( I read t...   Aug 21 2019, 07:19 AM
Gatornapper   SH - You didn't jump to conclusions. In desi...   Aug 21 2019, 07:03 PM
Gatornapper   Update: Engine was cold yesterday when I took com...   Aug 21 2019, 07:01 PM
Gatornapper   Ran engine today in 93* ambient until gauge was ju...   Aug 22 2019, 01:42 PM
Gatornapper   Still wondering if there is a way to see the top o...   Aug 23 2019, 12:26 PM
jcd914   Still wondering if there is a way to see the top ...   Aug 23 2019, 12:32 PM
rhodyguy   I think you're getting ahead of yourself. You ...   Aug 23 2019, 01:14 PM
Gatornapper   Rhodyguy - You are right on. So, can I install t...   Aug 23 2019, 06:29 PM
Gatornapper   While it is clear that I have to put the flaps ...   Aug 24 2019, 05:07 AM
Rand   While it is clear that I have to put the flaps ...   Aug 24 2019, 07:52 AM
Superhawk996   [quote name='Gatornapper' post='2741106' date='Au...   Aug 24 2019, 09:35 AM
Gatornapper   Loud and clear, SH. Do I HAVE to drop the engine ...   Aug 24 2019, 09:45 AM
Porschef   There’s bugging a previous owner with a multitu...   Aug 24 2019, 07:16 AM
Gatornapper   Great idea, thank you, but "Been there, done ...   Aug 24 2019, 09:34 AM
Garland   Here’s a shot with the shroud and heater tins re...   Aug 24 2019, 07:49 AM
rhodyguy   WHY the P.O. removed the system is not relevant to...   Aug 24 2019, 08:20 AM
Gatornapper   FYI - dropping the engine is no problem in and of ...   Aug 24 2019, 09:51 AM
Rand   FYI - dropping the engine is no problem in and of...   Aug 24 2019, 09:56 AM
Superhawk996   On a 914 it is much easier to just drop the engine...   Aug 24 2019, 09:53 AM
ClayPerrine   In the case of the flaps, you'll need to pull...   Aug 24 2019, 09:55 PM
Gatornapper   Clay - Thanks - I'm sold. Think the motorcyc...   Aug 25 2019, 07:15 AM
Superhawk996   Drop engine - then roll car off host to make room ...   Aug 24 2019, 09:59 AM
Rand   Love your style. That's how most of us get it ...   Aug 24 2019, 10:05 AM
rhodyguy   Unless the CVs are stuck/bonded to the rear of the...   Aug 24 2019, 10:14 AM
Superhawk996   :agree: Pulling the rear stub carries some risk ...   Aug 24 2019, 10:16 AM
cuddy_k   I suggest you try to do this with the engine in th...   Aug 24 2019, 10:35 AM
Superhawk996   I suggest you try to do this with the engine in t...   Aug 24 2019, 10:38 AM
cuddy_k   :) we Joke because we care. We’ve all been ther...   Aug 24 2019, 10:52 AM
SirAndy   :) we Joke because we care. We’ve all been ther...   Aug 24 2019, 12:26 PM
Gatornapper   Guys - Got the message loud and clear. "A...   Aug 24 2019, 08:36 PM
rhodyguy   If you're set on not dropping the engine, Step...   Aug 24 2019, 12:56 PM
SirAndy   Engine + trans drop is less than an hour. You don...   Aug 24 2019, 02:53 PM
rhodyguy   Cleaning the engine compartment is quick and easy ...   Aug 24 2019, 10:03 PM
Gatornapper   The PO responded to my query and insists that he d...   Aug 25 2019, 11:35 AM
Superhawk996   The PO responded to my query and insists that he ...   Aug 25 2019, 11:45 AM
Gatornapper   SH - Totally get it. But, mine does only have 60...   Aug 25 2019, 11:54 AM
Superhawk996   SH - Totally get it. But, mine does only have 6...   Aug 25 2019, 01:32 PM
Gatornapper   SH - Only makes sense, I agree - especially since...   Aug 25 2019, 07:24 PM
Superhawk996   SH - Only makes sense, I agree - especially sinc...   Aug 26 2019, 06:04 AM
Gatornapper   I have the full and true story on the FI-Weber con...   Aug 26 2019, 07:11 AM
Gatornapper   Perfect. I have the scope - will do this for sure...   Aug 26 2019, 09:40 AM
Al Meredith   Here in the South (Atlanta) I have built several H...   Aug 25 2019, 12:07 PM
Gatornapper   Al - totally understand - flaps ON THE WAY from an...   Aug 25 2019, 01:17 PM
ClayPerrine   Here in the South (Atlanta) I have built several ...   Aug 25 2019, 08:07 PM
Gatornapper   Totally remember all cars were good for 100k mis. ...   Aug 26 2019, 07:20 AM
wndsrfr   Totally remember all cars were good for 100k mis....   Aug 26 2019, 08:09 AM
Gatornapper   John - Like here: https://aapistons.com/collecti...   Aug 26 2019, 09:18 AM
Gatornapper   John - Does the bore for the 96mm pistons give yo...   Aug 26 2019, 09:26 AM
ChrisFoley   I just pulled the tin off an engine that appeared ...   Aug 26 2019, 11:02 AM
Gatornapper   Chris - THANK YOU FOR THIS POST! VERY educat...   Aug 26 2019, 07:07 PM
rhodyguy   How was the vane on dr side positioned?   Aug 26 2019, 02:37 PM
ChrisFoley   No, I have the engine out of the car. I wouldn...   Aug 26 2019, 08:30 PM
Gatornapper   Chris - Thank you. I've never seen your oil ...   Aug 27 2019, 05:41 AM
ChrisFoley   Chris - Thank you. I've never seen your oil...   Aug 27 2019, 07:24 AM
Gatornapper   Thanks, Chris. "Be careful with synthetic oi...   Aug 27 2019, 07:23 PM
ChrisFoley   ... "High oil pressure = no oil moving in t...   Aug 28 2019, 05:18 AM
Gatornapper   Cool! Great design... The stock pressure re...   Aug 28 2019, 09:40 AM
Superhawk996   I’ll defer to Chris on this for racing applicati...   Aug 28 2019, 10:38 AM
ChrisFoley   Keep in mind, hot oil is usually not high pressur...   Aug 28 2019, 11:11 AM
Superhawk996   Just want to be clear my intent isn’t to start a...   Aug 28 2019, 12:52 PM


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