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Driven Oil, For Aircooled engines |
BENBRO02 |
Aug 21 2019, 05:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 480 Joined: 6-March 15 From: Nokesville, Virginia Member No.: 18,493 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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michael7810 |
Aug 21 2019, 08:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,080 Joined: 6-June 11 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 13,164 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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SKL1 |
Aug 21 2019, 09:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,597 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Have been using it in our 993. Still using what Brad Penn I have left in the 914's.
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Jake Raby |
Aug 21 2019, 09:40 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Yep, It was developed under my roof, back in 2009.. The first generation of it had my seal on the bottle, and it earned it.
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Chi-town |
Aug 21 2019, 11:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 850 Joined: 31-August 18 From: Disneyland Member No.: 22,446 Region Association: Southern California |
So what makes it better? Can you give is a breakdown of the advantages?
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IronHillRestorations |
Aug 22 2019, 05:09 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,716 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
It's formulated specifically for air cooled engines
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tailwind22 |
Aug 22 2019, 01:44 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 7-November 17 From: Moses Lake, WA Member No.: 21,583 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
It is great oil. Use in my NA and turbo air cools. As Raby stated, his group put the oil through the wringer and they endorse it for their builds.
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mangrum |
Aug 23 2019, 08:25 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 10-September 03 From: Ann Arbor, MI Member No.: 1,134 |
Any issue with going from Dino/regular to synthetic, especially higher mileage engines? There was considerable increase in oil leaks when I switched to synthetic in my ‘82 Mercedes Diesel.
Thanks, Mike |
horizontally-opposed |
Aug 23 2019, 10:12 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,431 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
Any issue with going from Dino/regular to synthetic, especially higher mileage engines? There was considerable increase in oil leaks when I switched to synthetic in my ‘82 Mercedes Diesel. Thanks, Mike Curious to see what Jake has to say about this, as I remember trying to switch to synthetic years (many years) ago on a very tired Type IV and the leaks seemed to 10x themselves. Was like a sieve. Driven Oil looks very interesting. Curious, also, for Jake's take on Michael's observation of 20° F cooler on this oil. I've been contemplating a small external oil cooler out back, as my engine has seen 215° F from time to time, usually on the freeway. |
Chi-town |
Aug 23 2019, 10:14 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 850 Joined: 31-August 18 From: Disneyland Member No.: 22,446 Region Association: Southern California |
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MikeM |
Aug 23 2019, 10:41 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 564 Joined: 16-May 10 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 11,733 Region Association: Canada |
Any issue with going from Dino/regular to synthetic, especially higher mileage engines? There was considerable increase in oil leaks when I switched to synthetic in my ‘82 Mercedes Diesel. Thanks, Mike Curious to see what Jake has to say about this, as I remember trying to switch to synthetic years (many years) ago on a very tired Type IV and the leaks seemed to 10x themselves. Was like a sieve. Driven Oil looks very interesting. Curious, also, for Jake's take on Michael's observation of 20° F cooler on this oil. I've been contemplating a small external oil cooler out back, as my engine has seen 215° F from time to time, usually on the freeway. I agree 100%...if this reduces my oil temp by 20 degrees then I'm all in.... |
BENBRO02 |
Aug 23 2019, 10:51 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 480 Joined: 6-March 15 From: Nokesville, Virginia Member No.: 18,493 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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jd74914 |
Aug 23 2019, 11:05 AM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,780 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
It's formulated specifically for air cooled engines Sorry but this is a marketing statement, I need actual details. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
jdamiano |
Aug 23 2019, 12:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 335 Joined: 18-March 18 From: Jacksonville Member No.: 21,981 Region Association: South East States |
What about the High Zinc thing. I’m about to change my oil this weekend with the Driven conventional oil with High Zinc. Is this synthetic better??
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Gatornapper |
Aug 23 2019, 12:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,205 Joined: 22-September 17 From: Woods west of Richmond, VA Member No.: 21,449 Region Association: South East States |
Technically, I think it is ZDDP:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_dithiophosphate Used to be in most oils, banned by EPA except for special oils, protects older cams, lifters, pushrods, etc. that were not as hardened as today. Use Brad Penn in all my old motorcycles to make them last... This has to be great stuff....... GN |
Chi-town |
Aug 23 2019, 01:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 850 Joined: 31-August 18 From: Disneyland Member No.: 22,446 Region Association: Southern California |
Most "racing" oils have ZDDP levels higher than the oils back before emissions got involved.
Driven Racing Oil used to be Joe Gibbs Racing oil It's custom made by Lubrizol https://www.lubrizol.com/Lubricant-and-Fuel-Additives Looks like their formulations lack the normal detergents in the additive package (who doesn't like deposits in their engines? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)) Loaded with ZDDP Unless someone independent of Jake or Driven wants to run it and then send it out for analysis after 3k miles I would not consider this a street oil, racing would be fine due to frequent changes and engine refreshes. |
yeahmag |
Aug 23 2019, 01:56 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,421 Joined: 18-April 05 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 3,946 Region Association: Southern California |
Known "good" oils are Brad Penn PennGrade 1 and Driven DT50. I think I read that Driven GP1 is Brad Penn base with Driven additive package. Likely to be good as well.
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jdamiano |
Aug 23 2019, 03:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 335 Joined: 18-March 18 From: Jacksonville Member No.: 21,981 Region Association: South East States |
I got the Driven HR-5 conventional. Is it an acceptable choice for street use?
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Chi-town |
Aug 23 2019, 05:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 850 Joined: 31-August 18 From: Disneyland Member No.: 22,446 Region Association: Southern California |
Street oils have different additive packages than race oils because they are for different proposes and the engines are not serviced as often.
Things like detergents and friction modifiers in street oil are built around longevity (thousands of miles) not race capability (few hundred miles). The amount of these additives and which ones are based on data collection, years of research, and real world testing. I'm not saying Driven oil isn't good, just saying it may not be the best choice for street cars. |
mlindner |
Aug 24 2019, 05:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,516 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I used DT 50 for the last eight years of owning a 98 993. And use Driven DT40 in my 2007 Cayman and will use DT50 again when my 914-6 GT Tribute is done. Best, Mark
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