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> How good is the porsche boxster suspension, Ignore fitment
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post Nov 13 2019, 08:01 AM
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Ive been afforded an opportunity to make my “914” crazy. I found all the boxster suspension parts i would need to put in my car for $1000. So my question is how much better is the boxster suspension than a modified 914 suspension. Ignore how to fit it.... i have plans....
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post Nov 13 2019, 08:38 AM
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Front/rear or just rear?

I doubt you'll make the front fit.

Is it better? Absolutely. Better enough to justify the expense and more importantly time? No, not unless your on the competitive level for racing, and then class rules typically will not allow it.

Have you ridden in a well sorted autox level 914? Have you ridden in a boxster?


The boxster is certainly better, more predictable and stable. But the 914 is not that far behind.





Your talking about something that would require an enormous amount of fabrication and precision to get right or else it will just turn your car to a pile of scrap.
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post Nov 13 2019, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(tazz9924 @ Nov 13 2019, 07:01 AM) *

....my question is how much better is the boxster suspension than ....


Having done work with brakes and suspension on all of my cars: 914, Boxster and Cayman... I can guarantee you the Boxster suspension is better. If it's from an 'S', even more so... but, wow. I think you are talking a lot of work, including retrofitting the wheel wells. I'd put the $1K into a set of better shocks that already fit the 914!!
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post Nov 13 2019, 09:47 AM
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post Nov 13 2019, 09:49 AM
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For those not in the know this is a boxter chassis with a 914 body on top of it.

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post Nov 13 2019, 09:53 AM
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For those not in the know this is a boxter chassis with a 914 body on top of it.

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CurbAndGutter (rudy?) is doing something like that...


tube frame 996 suspension
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post Nov 13 2019, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Nov 13 2019, 08:49 AM) *

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For those not in the know this is a boxter chassis with a 914 body on top of it.

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/wickedgarage/...025270824/page1

1131 photo how to...


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post Nov 13 2019, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Nov 13 2019, 06:38 AM) *

I doubt you'll make the front fit.
Your talking about something that would require an enormous amount of fabrication and precision to get right or else it will just turn your car to a pile of scrap.

Challenge accepted.
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post Nov 13 2019, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(tazz9924 @ Nov 13 2019, 11:40 AM) *

QUOTE(Andyrew @ Nov 13 2019, 06:38 AM) *

I doubt you'll make the front fit.
Your talking about something that would require an enormous amount of fabrication and precision to get right or else it will just turn your car to a pile of scrap.

Challenge accepted.


See you running again in 4 years! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)


That being said, I always enjoy a good (Long) build thread! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 14 2019, 06:59 AM
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Nov 13 2019, 12:05 PM) *

QUOTE(tazz9924 @ Nov 13 2019, 11:40 AM) *

QUOTE(Andyrew @ Nov 13 2019, 06:38 AM) *

I doubt you'll make the front fit.
Your talking about something that would require an enormous amount of fabrication and precision to get right or else it will just turn your car to a pile of scrap.

Challenge accepted.


See you running again in 4 years! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)


That being said, I always enjoy a good (Long) build thread! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Car was totaled so its not like im missing out on much driving anyway lol
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post Nov 14 2019, 09:09 AM
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For those not in the know this is a boxter chassis with a 914 body on top of it.

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That looks.....heavy
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post Nov 14 2019, 09:13 AM
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I procured a complete 993 rear set up. It bolts in at 4 points, fits a Boxster trans with the 993 axles and lends itself to conversion to pushrod activated shocks. (At least, that's my plan...)
I'll be following your progress. Best of luck with your conversion.


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The structure of the car will not handle the boxster style suspension. You'll have to do a tube frame structure front and rear.

At that point you might as well build a full tube frame and drop the 914 body panels on it.
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post Nov 14 2019, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Nov 14 2019, 09:13 AM) *

I procured a complete 993 rear set up. It bolts in at 4 points, fits a Boxster trans with the 993 axles and lends itself to conversion to pushrod activated shocks. (At least, that's my plan...)
I'll be following your progress. Best of luck with your conversion.


I would have used a 996 suspension. Same setup,but it doesn't have that hoop over the top. With the 993 suspension, you will have to cut a hole in the rear trunk for it.


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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Nov 14 2019, 09:13 AM) *

I procured a complete 993 rear set up. It bolts in at 4 points, fits a Boxster trans with the 993 axles and lends itself to conversion to pushrod activated shocks. (At least, that's my plan...)
I'll be following your progress. Best of luck with your conversion.


I would have used a 996 suspension. Same setup,but it doesn't have that hoop over the top. With the 993 suspension, you will have to cut a hole in the rear trunk for it.


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QUOTE(Chi-town @ Nov 14 2019, 07:36 AM) *

The structure of the car will not handle the boxster style suspension. You'll have to do a tube frame structure front and rear.

At that point you might as well build a full tube frame and drop the 914 body panels on it.

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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Nov 14 2019, 09:13 AM) *

I procured a complete 993 rear set up. It bolts in at 4 points, fits a Boxster trans with the 993 axles and lends itself to conversion to pushrod activated shocks. (At least, that's my plan...)
I'll be following your progress. Best of luck with your conversion.


I would have used a 996 suspension. Same setup,but it doesn't have that hoop over the top. With the 993 suspension, you will have to cut a hole in the rear trunk for it.

Clay


Sorry for the hijack. Tube frame planned so I'll lose the hoop. It's not part of the 4 chassis mounts and can be replaced with something else. It came as part of the package so I just mocked the Boxster trans in there to see if it'd fit. It'd be pretty straight forward to jig up the hoop, replicate the pick-up point locations and build a replacement.

Same deal with the Boxster stuff.

Now let's see some tube frame fabrication!
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post Nov 16 2019, 09:33 AM
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Well...since you asked, here is a photo of the day I bought the car. The previous owner had jumped in and declared " I need to drive it one more time"...
The results were quite similar to actions preceded by the words "watch this".
Amazingly, other than ego issues, no harm done...?
This was February of this year, I had already ordered and paid for the 914 bodywork and then watched the car sever a power pole...


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