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> My V8 resurrection is taking MUCH longer than..., ...I planned but what else is new?
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post Jul 3 2005, 01:59 AM
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Brad and crew got my 20+ year old Jaide conversion resurrected a couple of years ago but I couldn't leave well enough alone. A fellow V8 converter sold me his built 400hp engine before Christmas and I thought I could get it installed by the April's WCC05 by merely replacing the clutch and rebuilding the old Carter carb. The KEP clutch turned into a fiasco so I decided to buy an all new Renegade kit (less the engine and tranny mounts) besides I already had their great radiator. Bill P gave me some v-belt parts since he was going serpentine and Renegade gave me a nice deal on the w/p for supporting them over the years. Well I come to find this is not a week-end bolt-in so here are my woes and triumphs…

V8 Gurus..., Edelbrock Manifold and Head miss-match
More V8 questions for the gurus..., It's been over 15 years..
Just like "Rides" hot host, designer, and, a team of 40 to work on my car...
Help V8 Gurus! Engine removal..., ...not clearing the axles? V8 topic: Anyone know what header baffles..., ...are used for?
V8 Topic: Help!, Harmonic Balancer not fitting...
Which is better: Renegade or KEP clutch, (or kevlar vs.organic)...
Renegade V8 TOPIC: Shifter?, How did you lengthen it?
GM harmonic balancer differences..., V8 topic
More V8 conversion questions..., ...the rebuild continues
Where to mount a Holley Elect Fuel pump?, in a V8 conversion...
mounting the HEI distributor
"simple" HEI wiring is not so simple to me
V8 topic: front mounted electric fuel pump wiring, ...where to tap 12V?
How do you replace the two shift coupler bushings?, ...just drive the shaft out, is there a pin on it?
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post Jul 3 2005, 02:08 AM
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Which brings me to my "July" issues...

1. Per Scott's instructions, I rotated the water pump to point the 1 1/4' inlet outward but now locates one of the 1" fittings under the head, not like in their online instruction picture. Why is mine "special"?


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post Jul 3 2005, 02:11 AM
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Notice how "wide" the Jaide engine mount is? Here's Bill "narrow" Renegade bar for comparison.


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post Jul 3 2005, 02:13 AM
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2. that hose inlet to xbar is CLOSE...


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post Jul 3 2005, 02:16 AM
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3. My slick Polyurethane engine mounts are "short", you might be able to see the bottom bolt is ~1/4" from the engine boss. Hope the guys at Speed Merchant will exchange these purchased months ago...


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post Jul 3 2005, 07:11 AM
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Felix, this is going to sound too easy but, the 1.25 inlet can turn around without having to turn the WP. Remove the WP and install it the way you need it and turn just the inlet around.

Get that car on the road!!
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post Jul 3 2005, 08:43 AM
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Hi Felix,

Your pump location is very similar to mine. I'm going out to breakfast with the family in a few minutes, but I'll shoot pics when I get back.

Hey...your car isn't the only special car....JLO has "special" parts, and so does THE BEAST.....I thought all 914's are "special"... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/barf.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)

I'll post some pics in an hour or so...

Bill P.
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post Jul 3 2005, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE (skline @ Jul 3 2005, 05:11 AM)
Felix, this is going to sound too easy but, the 1.25 inlet can turn around without having to turn the WP. Remove the WP and install it the way you need it and turn just the inlet around.

Get that car on the road!!

Scott,

The problem is it only rotates 180 degrees because RH uses a tstat housing... I can point it up or down. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)

My Simpson fitting screwed in so you could position 360 degrees...
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post Jul 3 2005, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE (nine14cats @ Jul 3 2005, 06:43 AM)
Hi Felix,

Your pump location is very similar to mine. I'm going out to breakfast with the family in a few minutes, but I'll shoot pics when I get back.

Hey...your car isn't the only special car....JLO has "special" parts, and so does THE BEAST.....I thought all 914's are "special"... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/barf.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)

I'll post some pics in an hour or so...

Bill P.

Bill,

My concern is the short hose has to make virtually a right angle to the outlet under the head.

I'm dropping by MikeP's at 10:30 and we are going to visit Chris Julian. Call me if you want/can come.

If not, I was planning on dropping off some $ to you later...
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post Jul 3 2005, 01:29 PM
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That sucks.....

Hopefully you guys have fun at Chris's! post some pics if you took any... I want to see some progress!
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post Jul 3 2005, 03:17 PM
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For that t-stat housing check Summit Racing's site. There are a dozen options including one that pivots to any angle and some that have 0 degrees of rise. I am sure you can get a fit.

Alex
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post Jul 3 2005, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE (Andyrew @ Jul 3 2005, 11:29 AM)
That sucks.....

Hopefully you guys have fun at Chris's! post some pics if you took any... I want to see some progress!

I'll dig up Chris' thread and post...
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post Jul 3 2005, 04:49 PM
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Felix,

Here's a few shots of my RH setup from the RH "factory". You can clearly see the hose is kinked and will need straightening. Also, the last shot shows how close to the block the bend goes.

Bill P.


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post Jul 3 2005, 05:05 PM
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Bill, that hose goes ~300 degrees around the pump! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif) I may try to find some tstat housings at Summit...

BTW, let me know if you need sketches of graphics you are thinking of for your race car...
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post Jul 3 2005, 05:08 PM
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I'm liking AN fittings like on Chris' car...


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I asked Mike about the routing of the hose. He said it is to minimize kinks with soft radius bends.

Let me know what you come up with on the t-stat housings.....

I'm gonna go stare at the hoses again.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif)

Bill P.
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