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Frunk won't close, New Rubber is too 'proud', cannot squeeze it down enough |
ctc911ctc |
Jan 18 2020, 10:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 892 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
Hi,
I am replacing ALL of the rubber in our '74 2.0. All is going well though the TARGA pieces are a bear. In the frunk the seal that goes around the entire frunk will not allow the lid to close all the way without bending the lid!!! Seems that it is too tall? The old rubber though beat up, fits and allows the lid to close fine. I have a note into 914Rubber, but I thought I would ask the team here if this is a common problem? THANK YOU ctc911CTC |
Chris914n6 |
Jan 18 2020, 10:51 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,305 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
First off, the divider seal is backwards.
Does the frunk close well with it not installed? I think 914r first seal was a generic piece and the bead was too tall. IIRC somebody else had that problem and it took someone getting in the frunk to see it. |
914_7T3 |
Jan 19 2020, 12:28 AM
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Please forgive me, I'm new to all of this! Group: Members Posts: 1,846 Joined: 3-April 17 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 20,991 Region Association: Southern California |
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Tdskip |
Jan 19 2020, 08:19 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Door and trunk fit in general is a common issue with new seals, same issue with the Alfas after replacing seals and is a an ongoing conversation with other communities as well.
Doesn’t NOT mean it should be like this however. |
drem914 |
Jan 19 2020, 12:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,029 Joined: 16-May 08 From: Trabuco Canyon, CA Member No.: 9,062 Region Association: Southern California |
I had the same issue when I first replaced the seals had to reorder a different set from 914rubber the first set came too tall. The new set looks like this.
Front Rear The original rear had a long rubber flange and it was the same profile for front and rear you can see they are different now and may not be fully stock, but the frunk and trunk close correctly now. 914Rubber said they had some stock that was shorter than others |
bbrock |
Jan 19 2020, 12:07 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
IIRC, Mark said the way to tell the early and late gaskets apart was to look for a step in the underside profile at the rear corners near the hinge. I don't remember if it was on the fender or cowl side but know that i was just about to install mine and ran out to check and was able to verify I had the correct seal. it went in without any trouble.
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Mikey914 |
Jan 19 2020, 02:52 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,638 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Correct.
The 1st ones we sold were A generic. The ones we made were molded. Even factory glued, requiring a hard rubber corner. So yes the new ones are much better. |
ctc911ctc |
Jan 20 2020, 02:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 892 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
First off, the divider seal is backwards. Does the frunk close well with it not installed? I think 914r first seal was a generic piece and the bead was too tall. IIRC somebody else had that problem and it took someone getting in the frunk to see it. We tried it both ways, too stiff and high for the frunk to close, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) will call 914Rubber guys and discuss. Thank you, |
ctc911ctc |
Feb 4 2020, 12:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 892 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
*************UPDATE***********
Turns out my son installed the Trunk rubber in the Frunk, we sorted this out and things are now working QUESTION: Since there are no installation instructions, is it customary to install these with some glue to hold things in place? SPECIFICALLY, the gasket that surrounds the FRUNK???? THANK YOU TEENERS! First off, the divider seal is backwards. Does the frunk close well with it not installed? I think 914r first seal was a generic piece and the bead was too tall. IIRC somebody else had that problem and it took someone getting in the frunk to see it. We tried it both ways, too stiff and high for the frunk to close, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) will call 914Rubber guys and discuss. Thank you, |
914sgofast2 |
Feb 4 2020, 02:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 613 Joined: 10-May 13 From: El Dorado Hills, CA Member No.: 15,855 Region Association: None |
I was advised not to install them with any glue because it would trap water under the seal and over time this would rust out the metal tray the frunk seal fits into.
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Eric_Shea |
Feb 4 2020, 02:49 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,274 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
3M weatherstrip adhesive. Follow the directions. Light coat on both sides. Tack up and install.
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DRPHIL914 |
Feb 4 2020, 03:19 PM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,759 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
I had the same issue when I first replaced the seals had to reorder a different set from 914rubber the first set came too tall. The new set looks like this. Front Rear The original rear had a long rubber flange and it was the same profile for front and rear you can see they are different now and may not be fully stock, but the frunk and trunk close correctly now. 914Rubber said they had some stock that was shorter than others After seeing this I went back to look and I had the same tall seal in front like the rear so today I ordered the proper one, not so tall. Thanks for posting |
Olympic 914 |
Feb 4 2020, 03:31 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,662 Joined: 7-July 11 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 13,287 Region Association: North East States |
Right or Wrong, I am also in the "No Glue" camp.
At first it would rise up out of the trough, but over time it settled in place. I like the ability to remove and wipe under the seal. |
bbrock |
Feb 4 2020, 03:53 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Right or Wrong, I am also in the "No Glue" camp. At first it would rise up out of the trough, but over time it settled in place. I like the ability to remove and wipe under the seal. I didn't use glue either. I use 3M weatherstrip adhesive a lot and was prepared to do so on the frunk seal, but once I got the seal stretched into place and kept the lid closed on it long enough (~ a week or two), it took a "set" and now stays perfectly in place without adhesive. |
ctc911ctc |
Feb 4 2020, 05:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 892 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
Great advice, thank you!
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