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> '74 1.8L LJet/fuel pump, Fuel Pump not staying on
RKramden
post Jan 20 2020, 02:17 PM
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This is my first time starting a topic, I don't know if I am even typing in the correct location, but I am having an issue with my '74 LJet and fuel pump. The pump starts with the ignition switch, Pump also runs when Air sensor arm is manually moved. However when starting, it seems that the air sensor is somehow cutting off the fuel pump circuit. The PO had bent the arm so it never opened, but I have bent it back to move as designed. If I disconnect the electrical plug to the Air Sensor, the car starts and runs fine......any thoughts? BTW I have replaced the dual relay, but that did not fix the problem.
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post Jan 21 2020, 02:12 PM
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I will check this evening, but I am getting fuel when cranking. If I load it up a little it will start, but it will die when that fuel runs out. With the ignition on, I can move the air flapper and hear the pump run as well. Something appears to be happening between initial start and air sensor opening that is not letting the fuel pump switch over voltage to occur.
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post Jan 21 2020, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(RKramden @ Jan 21 2020, 02:12 PM) *

I will check this evening, but I am getting fuel when cranking. If I load it up a little it will start, but it will die when that fuel runs out. With the ignition on, I can move the air flapper and hear the pump run as well. Something appears to be happening between initial start and air sensor opening that is not letting the fuel pump switch over voltage to occur.



Are all the vacuum hoses hooked up per the vacuum diagram? If you have an air leak, especially between the air flow meter and the throttle body, an L-Jet car won't run.

Also, check to see if the big black hose between the air flow meter and the throttle body is split. They are prone to doing that between the folds, and it is hard to see it. Symptoms will be that the car will try to start and immediately die when the engine moves ln the chassis, causing the split to open up.

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QUOTE(RKramden @ Jan 21 2020, 02:12 PM) *

I will check this evening, but I am getting fuel when cranking. If I load it up a little it will start, but it will die when that fuel runs out. With the ignition on, I can move the air flapper and hear the pump run as well. Something appears to be happening between initial start and air sensor opening that is not letting the fuel pump switch over voltage to occur.



Are all the vacuum hoses hooked up per the vacuum diagram? If you have an air leak, especially between the air flow meter and the throttle body, an L-Jet car won't run.

Also, check to see if the big black hose between the air flow meter and the throttle body is split. They are prone to doing that between the folds, and it is hard to see it. Symptoms will be that the car will try to start and immediately die when the engine moves ln the chassis, causing the split to open up.

Clay


Also, replace the oil cap seals. They will cause it to run badly or not at all.


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RKramden   '74 1.8L LJet/fuel pump   Jan 20 2020, 02:17 PM
ndfrigi   do you mind also sharing pic of your car and engin...   Jan 20 2020, 02:35 PM
RKramden   do you mind also sharing pic of your car and engi...   Jan 20 2020, 03:04 PM
ClayPerrine   Check where the engine harness plugs into the rela...   Jan 21 2020, 01:56 PM
RKramden   I will check this evening, but I am getting fuel w...   Jan 21 2020, 02:12 PM
ClayPerrine   I will check this evening, but I am getting fuel ...   Jan 21 2020, 02:19 PM
ClayPerrine   I will check this evening, but I am getting fuel...   Jan 21 2020, 02:20 PM
RKramden   thanks Clay, I will check all those things tonight...   Jan 21 2020, 03:11 PM
jcd914   thanks Clay, I will check all those things tonigh...   Jan 21 2020, 03:28 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   with the key on and when you move the arm under th...   Jan 21 2020, 03:44 PM
porschetub   This is my first time starting a topic, I don...   Jan 21 2020, 03:47 PM
ClayPerrine   [ My understanding was that the pump only gets p...   Jan 22 2020, 08:29 AM
ndfrigi   @rkramden I have spare AFM for Ljet, if you are a...   Jan 21 2020, 05:04 PM
RKramden   Thanks All!! So I checked the Vac lines, a...   Jan 22 2020, 11:11 AM
ClayPerrine   Try these tests: 1. Disconnect the Yellow wire o...   Jan 22 2020, 12:36 PM
RKramden   Try these tests: 1. Disconnect the Yellow wire ...   Jan 22 2020, 01:24 PM
ClayPerrine   Try these tests: 1. Disconnect the Yellow wire...   Jan 22 2020, 02:16 PM
RKramden   [quote name='RKramden' post='2779785' date='Jan 2...   Jan 23 2020, 10:12 AM
ClayPerrine   Clay, I am leaning towards the AFM as the issue ...   Jan 23 2020, 03:10 PM
RKramden   Interesting......just makes it harder for us novic...   Jan 23 2020, 05:02 PM
ndfrigi   Interesting......just makes it harder for us novi...   Jan 23 2020, 07:51 PM
RKramden   I will check ohms on AFM this weekend. If they do...   Jan 24 2020, 11:41 AM
ClayPerrine   I will check ohms on AFM this weekend. If they d...   Jan 24 2020, 01:55 PM
RKramden   I continuity tested all the wires from the ECU and...   Jan 24 2020, 03:12 PM
Rob-O   [quote name='RKramden' post='2780266' date='Jan 2...   Jan 24 2020, 09:57 PM
porschetub   Are the wiper boards still being made by anybody ?...   Jan 25 2020, 02:02 PM
Rob-O   The only ‘wiper boards’ I know of that we’re...   Jan 25 2020, 04:02 PM
Rob-O   Forgot to add, I looked at Fuel Injection Corp’s...   Jan 25 2020, 04:12 PM
Rob-O   BTW, you’re welcome to my old AFM. It had been ...   Jan 25 2020, 04:25 PM
RKramden   SUCCESS---kind of Ohm tested the AFM and was 290 b...   Jan 27 2020, 08:29 AM
ClayPerrine   Now you know the harness is bad, so I suggest gett...   Jan 27 2020, 08:46 AM
RKramden   Now you know the harness is bad, so I suggest get...   Jan 27 2020, 10:42 AM


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