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post Jan 21 2020, 12:55 PM
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As I recall, the 924 had it's own NARP reputation back in the day... "more Audi than Porsche". Through factory research and development it evolved into the 944. However, they brought the 924 back in 86 with the 924S, essentially a narrow fenders 944 in disguise & a pretty good car- best of the 924s' that came to the US.
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QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Jan 22 2020, 12:12 PM) *

As I recall, the 924 had it's own NARP reputation back in the day... "more Audi than Porsche". Through factory research and development, it evolved into the 944. However they brought the 924 back in 86 with the 924S which essentially was a narrow fenders 944 in disguise & a pretty good car- best of the 924s' that came to the US.


If you look at the history of the 924, it was never designed as a Porsche. Audi asked Porsche to design a sportscar for them. When Audi decided not to build it, Porsche then took it and made the 924. Because it was designed for Audi originally, it used lots of VW/Audi parts. The front suspension was from the super beetle, the rear suspension was from the super beetle, the engine was from the Audi fox, the transmission was from the Audi fox, and lots of the interior bits were from the VW parts bin as well. That's why the interior door handles and the turn signal and wiper switches fit both a 914 and a 924. The guts of the steering column all use Beetle parts. The ignition lock from a 924 will fit in a 914, but the key is different.

There are way more VW/Audi parts in a 924 than VW/Audi parts in a 914. But Porsche put a hood badge on the 924, so it doesn't get labeled a NARP.

The 944 was Porsche improving the original 924. The put flares on it, changed out the engine for a Porsche designed 2.5 water cooled 4 cylinder, and improved the brakes. Later models got the Audi sourced gauge cluster replaced with a Porsche designed one. The 924s was created to make a lower cost car, but it was just the older 944 model without the flares.

Vehicle manufacturers are cheap. They will reuse and repurpose parts and designs to cut costs on new cars any way they can. The 924 is a perfect example of parts bin engineering.
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Jan 22 2020, 11:23 AM) *

There are way more VW/Audi parts in a 924 than VW/Audi parts in a 914. But Porsche put a hood badge on the 924, so it doesn't get labeled a NARP.


One of the most fascinating things about the "50 Years Porsche 914" book to me was how apparent it is that Porsche and VW were just figuring out their partnership on the 914 as they went along. The 914 development team voted on, and passed an official decision to hood badge the 914 but by that time, cars in Europe had already started being sold as VW-Porsche so the hood badges never happened.

Another interesting part is that Porsche was busy designing improvements to the 914 when VW decided to pull the plug on their end. That left Porsche scrambling to fill that market niche which, of course, was filled temporarily with the 912E but the 924 design came up for grabs at the perfect time for Porsche to slap a badge on as the successor to the 914. Of course that's all well known but it was interesting to learn that Porsche seemed committed to carrying the 914 forward at the time its production was suddenly halted.
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dr914@autoatlanta.com   and the main star in the shop today is...   Jan 21 2020, 12:55 PM
johnhora   well that's a sad looking little 924...what ar...   Jan 21 2020, 02:10 PM
Mark Henry   Today in my shop it's another 996 C4S. :rolle...   Jan 21 2020, 04:07 PM
Steve   and he really loves his car!!! One h...   Jan 21 2020, 04:23 PM
Mark Henry   One hour labor is probably more than it’s worth...   Jan 21 2020, 04:29 PM
ClayPerrine   My first Porsche was a Petrol Blue Metallic 1979 9...   Jan 22 2020, 08:37 AM
KELTY360   About 1980, I’d totaled my BMW 2002 and was look...   Jan 22 2020, 12:05 PM
Johny Blackstain   As I recall, the 924 had it's own NARP reputat...   Jan 22 2020, 12:12 PM
ClayPerrine   As I recall, the 924 had it's own NARP reputa...   Jan 22 2020, 12:23 PM
Johny Blackstain   There are way more VW/Audi parts in a 924 than VW...   Jan 22 2020, 12:26 PM
tomeric914   Exactly :headbang: :D I knew it had the Fox en...   Jan 25 2020, 09:02 AM
Johny Blackstain   [quote name='Johny Blackstain' post='2779769' dat...   Jan 25 2020, 10:27 AM
bbrock   There are way more VW/Audi parts in a 924 than VW...   Jan 22 2020, 01:11 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   so do you happen to know what improvements they we...   Jan 22 2020, 01:25 PM
bbrock   so do you happen to know what improvements they w...   Jan 22 2020, 02:22 PM
Superhawk996   Vehicle manufacturers are cheap. They will reuse...   Jan 23 2020, 05:49 AM
ClayPerrine   Vehicle manufacturers are cheap. They will reus...   Jan 23 2020, 07:48 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   I have this recurring dream that the Porsche deale...   Jan 22 2020, 01:33 PM
ClayPerrine   I keep having a recurring alternate history dream ...   Jan 22 2020, 02:12 PM
fixer34   I keep having a recurring alternate history dream...   Jan 22 2020, 09:16 PM
rjames   :first:   Jan 22 2020, 10:03 PM
beech4rd   "the engine was from the Audi fox" I be...   Jan 23 2020, 09:30 AM
JamesM   I like it!! You almost never see them any...   Jan 23 2020, 10:02 AM
Tdskip   I like it!! You almost never see them an...   Jan 23 2020, 02:10 PM
AZBanks   924 Turbo! Very Nice.   Jan 23 2020, 01:25 PM
sixnotfour   hopefully it will get these guys engine ?? http://...   Jan 23 2020, 03:31 PM
rhodyguy   The red hot exhaust piping photo in the gallery is...   Jan 23 2020, 06:38 PM
Maltese Falcon   Small batches of Weissach built 924 gtr were built...   Jan 23 2020, 06:48 PM
Steve   It’s amazing that vw chose to dump air cooled ca...   Jan 24 2020, 09:52 PM
gulf908   my recurrent daydream is for Porsche in the late ...   Jan 25 2020, 12:48 AM
Tdskip   my recurrent daydream is for Porsche in the late ...   Jan 25 2020, 08:04 AM
Pursang   It surprises me that people diss the 924. It remin...   Jan 25 2020, 01:44 AM
Tdskip   It surprises me that people diss the 924. It remi...   Jan 25 2020, 08:05 AM
Steve   Personally I am a big fan of the 944 and 968, but ...   Jan 25 2020, 08:21 AM
rhodyguy   That's a great illustration. Amazing what they...   Jan 25 2020, 09:13 AM
rhodyguy   Is that a manual or auto? The big black item on th...   Jan 25 2020, 10:39 AM
Superhawk996   So...Ls conversation under $10k? :lol4: ...   Jan 25 2020, 10:49 AM
mepstein   So...Ls conversation under $10k? :lol4: ...   Jan 25 2020, 10:55 AM
Superhawk996   The owner of our shop wants to put an LS in a Fe...   Jan 25 2020, 11:04 AM
rhodyguy   Faster stop light to stop light starting at ...   Jan 25 2020, 11:32 AM
Superhawk996   Faster stop light to stop light starting at ...   Jan 25 2020, 11:57 AM
mb911   The 924turbo had a 915 ring gear and diff parts fr...   Jan 25 2020, 11:54 AM
914werke   Never paid too much attention to the 924/944s. Th...   Jan 25 2020, 02:12 PM
rhodyguy   Who breaks even on any of them? I'll look for ...   Jan 25 2020, 03:34 PM
sixnotfour   AA-?? :stir: :type: :beer2:   Jan 25 2020, 03:40 PM


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