Finally bought my own 914, Inspection done! Options

[Bmw635]

911GT2, ygm.

[bkrantz]

I get a weird feeling every time I look at anything from BHCC. That's me, some may disagree. I wouldn't deal with them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I agree. Some of their listings seem ridiculous, glossing over what is clearly serious damage and rust, and asking prices that seem double market rates.

[mepstein]

I get a weird feeling every time I look at anything from BHCC. That's me, some may disagree. I wouldn't deal with them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I agree. Some of their listings seem ridiculous, glossing over what is clearly serious damage and rust, and asking prices that seem double market rates.

I don't look at their ads. They take good pics but mostly sell overpriced junk.

[djway]

Get your money back and look for another car, without doubt

[Craigers17]

....Let's just jump to the part where you get your money back.

I would start a new search using "nationwide craigslist" on your search engine.
That will take you to "searchtempest.com"
Perform a simple search on Porsche 914 under cars/trucks for sale with any 5 digit U.S.zip code and "any distance"

You can then peruse the entire Craigslist database of all Porsche 914's for sale in the U.S. in about 20 minutes. I would personally try to deal with individuals rather than dealers in general. Combine this with PPI's from guys on this forum and cars for sale on this forum, and I think you'll do better.

I don't know your personal parameters for a preferred car, but I've included 2 listings for what "appear to be" decent drivers...both seam reasonably priced and more solid than the car you're currently dealing with. Good luck....just my 2 cents...

https://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/d/chesterfie...7097069377.html

https://omaha.craigslist.org/cto/d/omaha-ni...7080494517.html

I have no affiliation with either car, but you can kinda tell by the pics that these guys actually drive their cars.


Sean Connery in "Rising Sun" :The Japanese have a saying, "Fix the problem, not the blame." Find out what's fucked up and fix it. Nobody gets blamed. We're always after who fucked up. Their way is better.

[Superhawk996]

Gottta laugh when I see these ads that say no rust but don't show pictures of rockers removed, hell hole, or trunk (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

[Bleyseng]

Both cars have that cheap ass EMPI 4 tip exhaust which seems to be supercheapo way out. Yeah, no engine, hellhole or long pics but the cars show pretty well otherwise for $10k

[911GT2]

I know what to do! I love all your support. Thank you guys for that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Since the site already has done so much for me I just became a patron to at least give this forum back on what it gave me so far.


But even though I'm in a situation with BHCC, please keep this from becoming a ranting thread about BHCC. They do not have the opportunity to react or defend themselves.

So since we're still in a proces I started it's only fair to them to see this trough to the end. And hopefully it works out for the best.

[Coondog]

Unless there’s some dealer exception I don’t know about, nobody’s going to the DMV anytime soon....

Calif DMV website

California is in a State of Emergency, use other service options to complete your DMV transactions. Beginning March 16, 2020, DMV allows customers to avoid coming to a DMV office for 60 days.
Effective immediately, customers whose transactions require an in-office visit will be served on an appointment-only basis and currently there are no appointments available. Continue to check the DMV website for the most current information.

[Mark Henry]

I'm tempted to go for 2. but I think I can't come up that much. What would be reasonable price for that car? I think I can come up to about 17K excl shipping maybe 18 if I stretch it thin.

Take your time, with COVID-19 nothing is going to happening quick now anyways.
I'd say try to scrape a bit more cash together, take your time looking and get the best car you can. PPI is a must, only exception is from a trusted fellow member. Even if you have to borrow cash, then you can drive a sorted 914 today, not 4 years from now.
Unfortunately for a buyer good sorted 914 prices have gone up quite a bit, we'll see if there's any panic selling of classic cars in the coming months.

[Bmw635]

Unless there’s some dealer exception I don’t know about, nobody’s going to the DMV anytime soon....

Calif DMV website

California is in a State of Emergency, use other service options to complete your DMV transactions. Beginning March 16, 2020, DMV allows customers to avoid coming to a DMV office for 60 days.
Effective immediately, customers whose transactions require an in-office visit will be served on an appointment-only basis and currently there are no appointments available. Continue to check the DMV website for the most current information.

If they’re a LICENSED dealer, they should have computer access to submit document, print paper plate within 1 hr of transaction. Since they have to do this manually, probably are not licensed.

About 4 yrs ago, there was a Costa Mesa dealer scam involving high end cars and the dealer owner happens to live on my street. He sells Lamborghini, Ferrari, MB, Porsche owned and on consignment. A consignment BMW M6 got sold to 3 different people: one got car but no title, another got title only, 3rd sent the fund in for purchase then wait....., M6 owner signed over the title to sell but got no car or fund. Another Ferrari owner in Midwest paid for a car but it never ship- long discussion on Ferrarichat including rumors of hit men out for the dealer owner. There were several other vehicles involved but I only know the BMW and Ferrari because I know the people and the situation. He even had armguards at the empty house 24/7 for couple weeks.

While perusing Ferrarichat, I found another dealer in Costa Mesa pulled the same stunt.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ferrarichat...p;client=safari

https://www.fi-magazine.com/321762/calif-de...or-embezzlement

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/o...ar-scam.179890/

[RenoRoger]

I know what to do! I love all your support. Thank you guys for that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Since the site already has done so much for me I just became a patron to at least give this forum back on what it gave me so far.


But even though I'm in a situation with BHCC, please keep this from becoming a ranting thread about BHCC. They do not have the opportunity to react or defend themselves.

So since we're still in a proces I started it's only fair to them to see this trough to the end. And hopefully it works out for the best.

Here are my .02 cents:

Coronavirus aside, the dealer has the money but is unable to deliver a clear title within a reasonable amount of time, the dealer must provide a full refund. Period.

What you need is a personal representative in California who knows California consumer protection laws and has a power of attorney to handle this matter for you. Face to face with BHCC. Is there a lawyer within 914World who is willing to handle this pro bono?? Otherwise, stay away from lawyers...too expensive. Anyone in SoCal willing to shoulder this responsibility?


P.S.
DMV California is still working. I received a sailboat renewal registration yesterday, 21 March, which was processed on 17 March. Not counting mailing time, it took them 5 weeks.

[Bmw635]

No need for lawyer as CA DMV is pretty good at enforcing law and cracking down unlicensed dealer. File a complaint with DMV for failure to provide documentations upon purchase as all dealers must provide documentations AND paper license plate at close of transaction. If I go dealer right now, Sunday, and buy a car pay the dealer, dealer must give me paper plate and owners documentation so I can drive the car home today.

If a dealer can't do that then probably not licensed by DMV so I question the legitimacy of the business.

[Tdskip]

If they’re a LICENSED dealer, they should have computer access to submit document, print paper plate within 1 hr of transaction. Since they have to do this manually, probably are not licensed.

It is not helpful to speculate and make stuff up.

Please read the thread as to the situation.

[burton73]

I am not happy for you and I do not know what you paid for the yellow car but the Silver car looks pretty good from the pictures. Engen rebuild and a number of other things done would make a 73 2.0 a good value at $24M or 25,000 if the car is nice in person. If Tom would go and CK out this car for you that would be great. BHCC did not do the rebuild of Eng. and I know nothing of the Co. that rebuilt it and who did the machining of the Eng.

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[Bmw635]

If they’re a LICENSED dealer, they should have computer access to submit document, print paper plate within 1 hr of transaction. Since they have to do this manually, probably are not licensed.

It is not helpful to speculate and make stuff up.

Please read the thread as to the situation.

I am just stating the fact: car dealer in CA must have dealer license. Dealer have the ability to submit documents and PRINT paper plate so customer can drive away. How efficient for a car dealer that sells 1 car a week to walk in to DMV and wait inline each week while making customer wait couple days to come back and pickup their car?

I can have registration submitted AND print a paper plate on the spot so customer can leave within 1 hour with any vehicle of their choice at 5pm Sunday.

[Tdskip]

If they’re a LICENSED dealer, they should have computer access to submit document, print paper plate within 1 hr of transaction. Since they have to do this manually, probably are not licensed.

It is not helpful to speculate and make stuff up.

Please read the thread as to the situation.

I am just stating the fact: car dealer in CA must have dealer license. Dealer have the ability to submit documents and PRINT paper plate so customer can drive away. How efficient for a car dealer that sells 1 car a week to walk in to DMV and wait inline each week while making customer wait couple days to come back and pickup their car?

I can have registration submitted AND print a paper plate on the spot so customer can leave within 1 hour with any vehicle of their choice.

True, and utterly irrelevant to the situation at hand which I why I said you should not speculate and make stuff up.

[Coondog]

If they’re a LICENSED dealer, they should have computer access to submit document, print paper plate within 1 hr of transaction. Since they have to do this manually, probably are not licensed.

It is not helpful to speculate and make stuff up.

Please read the thread as to the situation.

I am just stating the fact: car dealer in CA must have dealer license. Dealer have the ability to submit documents and PRINT paper plate so customer can drive away. How efficient for a car dealer that sells 1 car a week to walk in to DMV and wait inline each week while making customer wait couple days to come back and pickup their car?

I can have registration submitted AND print a paper plate on the spot so customer can leave within 1 hour with any vehicle of their choice at 5pm Sunday.

Car needs to have a DMV verification of the vin as it was a out of state car. That’s why they have to physically take the car to the DMV. But with no appointments available this isn’t going to happen.

[Tdskip]

Took a whole 2 minutes to find and validate.

[Bmw635]

CHP office can do VIN verification- drive in and request, no appt needed.