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> 74 Roller rebuild and Subaru conversion, 1974 rebuild and Subaru conversion project
mgarrison
post Feb 29 2020, 09:54 AM
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Hello,

I new around here, but have been lurking for a bit trying to soak up all the 914 knowledge and information I could! I was looking into building a Factory Five 818 kit with the Subaru flat-4, but the cost of entry was a bit too high, and the time & space needed to build a car from scratch seemed overwhelming. But it got me thinking; that's basically a tube-framed 914 with an odd body. I wonder if anyone has put a Subaru flat-4 in a 914? A few Google searches later I learned that a lot of people had, and parts were out there to spend my money on!

Long story short, I found two rollers with no engines or transmissions in Tucson, AZ a couple of hours South of me. Soon I rented a car hauler for a couple of days and my "Craft Project" (my wife's label) was begun.

The rollers were a green 1971, and a red 1974. I wanted to restore the 71 because it just seemed to have more character. The 74 had been partially stripped for an electric conversion project, and seemed less "car like". Sadly, the 71 needed a bit more work than I was setup to handle. So, it had to be the 74 who I have simply labeled as "Red".

I will try to track my build process here as best I can. I tend to get working on things and forget to document things, but will try to keep track.

Here's Red when we got her home on the trailer and tucked away in the back yard for the moment.

Mike
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post Jan 16 2021, 11:00 AM
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I've been taking pictures as I work, but getting them from my phone, to Google drive, then to the laptop, then resized to post...You get the idea!

Finally have the "frunk" mostly finished. I feel like I'm sooooo sloooooow. But progress is progress!

I had to piece in the gap at the front of the frunk floor where too much was cut out. I got some new snips that work much better, so getting the patches cut was much quicker. Half the gap tacked:

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And the other half:
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I kept hearing the Taylor Swift song "Death by a thousand cuts" in my head, but it transformed to "Death (of my back) by a thousand tacks" in my addled brain!
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As I was making progress tacking things in, I ran out of welding wire. I had more in the drawer, but it was the good Lincoln stuff. Oddly enough the Lincoln wire gave me more trouble than the cheap HF stuff I was using! Does anyone with more welding experience know why this started happening when I switched to the Lincoln wire?
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Both are .030 wire. I did not change my settings, etc. Just started getting these crazy craters in some of the tacks! I fiddled with the amps and wire speed and finally got things working better. Almost like the Lincoln wire burned hotter and I could not get my welder set low enough for the thin sheet metal...
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I sprayed a small section of my test color. Then covered it with clear. Then sanded a bit with 800 grit to removed orange peel. Then finally buffed it out with a random buffer. It looked pretty good, at first. Over time this happened!
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For those with more experience; have you seen this happen before? What would cause it to occur? It looked fine at first, but after a couple of weeks its like the paint shrank, cracked, and exposed the primer underneath!

Back to the frunk floor. I started grinding down some of my welds to see how it was going to turn out. I needed a little break from welding, and to catch my breath before I dealt with a few problem spots:
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My first problem area was near the drivers side front A-arm mount. They cut out the frunk floor right up against the edge of the mount, which made me nervous welding. Some of the metal just did not seem to want to be welded, or I was not good enough to get it welded, so I ended up using a hole saw to remove the problem section. I then patched it in which was a challenge as it was rather curved.
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Another difficult spot was near the hole they cut for the AC lines on the passenger side near the rear of the frunk floor. Metal just did not want to weld together, despite the lack of rust, etc.
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Whoever did the AC installation on this car was rather rough to put it mildly! Not sure what in the world they did with these two mounting holes (assuming they were for the strap/bracket holding the condenser down to the frunk floor), but they tore up the steel so bad I just ended up cutting them both out with the hole saw and patching them up!
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Getting better at cutting out these little patches!
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I read on 914World where someone smashed a copper pipe, and used it as backing while welding thin sheet metal. It seems to work rather well to absorb the heat, and is an easy way to back up these little patches - thanks to whoever it was for that tip! Here's my setup for patching the nasty AC mounting holes. You can just see the flat copper pipe on top of the 4x4, pressed up against the bottom of the frunk floor:
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From the top side, it looks like this, and helps keep the patch in place and flush:
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Starting to tack the patch in, and had the dang crater issues again! Arrrgggg.
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Settled down and it came out ok in the end. Just had to fill those craters with a really quick tack since they went clear through!
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Got my welds ground down good enough, I guess - I'm going to use rubberized undercoating on the trunk floors to seal, protect, and give it a bit of texture to hide my less than idea repair work. I made sure to get the paintable kind of undercoating so I can spray it body color if I decide I dont like the black. Gave it a quick coat of primer top & bottom to keep it protected.
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Then spent an hour or so starting to remove some of the seam sealer to ensure nothing was hiding under it anywhere. Found an odd spot that I first thought was rust under there, but turned out to be a missed spot weld or some other oddity - you can just see it on the right edge of the seam, about 2" inches below the hole for the AC line.
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mgarrison   74 Roller rebuild and Subaru conversion   Feb 29 2020, 09:54 AM
mgarrison   If anyone knows how to correctly rotate portrait i...   Feb 29 2020, 09:56 AM
mgarrison   We got Red tucked away in the back yard so that we...   Feb 29 2020, 10:01 AM
mgarrison   Here is her temporary home until I decided she was...   Feb 29 2020, 10:02 AM
mgarrison   Once I got Red squared away in my working area, I ...   Feb 29 2020, 10:08 AM
mgarrison   I managed to get the headlight assemblies all out,...   Feb 29 2020, 10:25 AM
Mueller   The red car does look solid, I wish my car was a ...   Feb 29 2020, 10:27 AM
JRust   Welcome to the madness. There are quite a few suby...   Feb 29 2020, 10:36 AM
mgarrison   Welcome to the madness. There are quite a few sub...   Feb 29 2020, 11:43 AM
Thunderchief   Is it hard to get the headlight assembly out? I ne...   Feb 29 2020, 10:44 AM
mgarrison   Is it hard to get the headlight assembly out? I n...   Feb 29 2020, 11:41 AM
GermermanCarGuy   I, too, am currently in the process of doing a sub...   Feb 29 2020, 04:34 PM
mgarrison   After some wasted time repairing a sprinkler valve...   Feb 29 2020, 09:15 PM
mgarrison   Since all my garage space is taken up already, I h...   Feb 29 2020, 09:20 PM
mgarrison   I did manage to get the pedal cluster out. Quite a...   Feb 29 2020, 09:26 PM
mgarrison   I also pulled the read trunk lid off so I could re...   Feb 29 2020, 09:30 PM
billh1963   You are starting with a very solid car....congratu...   Mar 1 2020, 05:46 AM
Mayne   Looks like you’re having fun! Keep posting s...   Mar 1 2020, 08:28 AM
Literati914   .. Does anybody have any amazing, creative ideas ...   Mar 1 2020, 10:52 AM
mgarrison   Didn't seem like I got much done today, but I...   Mar 1 2020, 10:02 PM
mgarrison   I got distracted for about a week fab'ing up a...   Mar 9 2020, 01:01 PM
76-914   Nice job. Throw a couple of sheets of plywood over...   Mar 10 2020, 10:41 AM
mgarrison   Finally got back to the '14 after being distra...   Apr 2 2020, 03:43 PM
mgarrison   Got the tar off the floor pan fairly easy, but tha...   Apr 2 2020, 03:49 PM
mgarrison   A bit of surface rust near the pedal box. Does not...   Apr 2 2020, 03:57 PM
mgarrison   I want to run my radiator hoses through the longs ...   Apr 2 2020, 04:05 PM
mgarrison   Not really sure what to say about some of these fa...   Apr 2 2020, 04:09 PM
Cairo94507   I sometimes think that stress crack at the handbra...   Apr 2 2020, 04:28 PM
76-914   The interior view of those longs looks cherry. Are...   Apr 2 2020, 09:12 PM
mgarrison   The interior view of those longs looks cherry. Ar...   Apr 3 2020, 11:13 AM
mgarrison   It's been a long time since I updated this - b...   Nov 5 2020, 01:22 PM
mgarrison   A couple more pics of suspension/brake stuff. I di...   Nov 5 2020, 01:44 PM
mgarrison   Finally getting around to posting another update...   Dec 20 2020, 10:43 AM
76-914   You're making good progress. I've got mixe...   Dec 20 2020, 12:31 PM
mgarrison   You're making good progress. I've got mix...   Dec 21 2020, 09:00 AM
76-914   You're making good progress. I've got mi...   Dec 21 2020, 12:10 PM
IM101   [quote name='mgarrison' post='2876903' date='Dec ...   Dec 21 2020, 12:23 PM
rhodyguy   A painters '5 in 1' tool and the heat gun ...   Dec 20 2020, 03:29 PM
Costa05   A painters '5 in 1' tool and the heat gun...   Dec 20 2020, 04:44 PM
mgarrison   A few more pics of yesterday's work. Here...   Dec 21 2020, 09:08 AM
mgarrison   Finished another patch section. Right side was dif...   Dec 22 2020, 01:59 PM
mgarrison   Completed one more small patch. Was a total PITA t...   Dec 23 2020, 05:40 PM
djway   I hear ya on the supposed to get better with pract...   Dec 23 2020, 06:22 PM
mgarrison   Another small update. Progress seems SO SLOW, but ...   Dec 30 2020, 09:56 AM
mgarrison   I've been taking pictures as I work, but getti...   Jan 16 2021, 11:00 AM
914forme   You need a sealer step for the paint and even then...   Jan 16 2021, 09:43 PM
76-914   You need a sealer step for the paint and even the...   Jan 16 2021, 09:46 PM
mb911   You need a sealer step for the paint and even th...   Jan 17 2021, 07:26 AM
mgarrison   Thanks guys. Its an inexpensive, gasless, DC inver...   Jan 17 2021, 09:15 AM
mb911   Thanks guys. Its an inexpensive, gasless, DC inve...   Jan 17 2021, 12:29 PM
tazz9924   Thanks guys. Its an inexpensive, gasless, DC inv...   Jan 18 2021, 02:09 PM
mgarrison   A little more progress, I guess. Struggling with t...   Jan 24 2021, 09:51 AM
mb911   Well remember you are using flux core on sheet met...   Jan 24 2021, 10:14 AM
mgarrison   Tack weld question; when you are tacking sheet met...   Jan 25 2021, 03:16 PM
mb911   No circling for what your tacking   Jan 25 2021, 03:35 PM
Cairo94507   @mgarrison - Here are a few photos of my e-brake ...   Jan 25 2021, 03:46 PM
djway   Check all the connections on your welder. Especial...   Jan 25 2021, 11:21 PM
mgarrison   Thanks for the tips guys! I'm going to pra...   Jan 26 2021, 09:45 AM
mgarrison   More trunk work - that took a lot longer than I an...   Feb 3 2021, 04:39 PM
mgarrison   The last thing I did last night was check the weat...   Feb 3 2021, 07:39 PM
JRust   Looking great bud. Keep up the good work   Feb 3 2021, 08:11 PM
2mAn   Great build. Moving slow, but you're doing it ...   Feb 4 2021, 11:08 AM
mgarrison   Does anyone know if these two holes should be ther...   Feb 4 2021, 07:20 PM
mgarrison   While I'm waiting for more weld-thru primer to...   Feb 5 2021, 07:06 PM
dakotaewing   Your moving along nicely! Just a friendly remi...   Feb 5 2021, 09:30 PM
mgarrison   Thanks for the advice/reminder! I ran down to ...   Feb 6 2021, 03:48 PM
mgarrison   I got each and every hole filled with a screw, and...   Feb 13 2021, 08:37 PM
2mAn   Loving this thread, keep it up   Feb 14 2021, 01:25 AM
mgarrison   Ran to HD early (to avoid people) this morning to ...   Feb 14 2021, 09:44 PM
djway   Looks great.   Feb 14 2021, 10:37 PM
76-914   You need a copper backing plate to help with the s...   Feb 15 2021, 09:13 AM
mgarrison   I've got some smashed copper pipe to use as ba...   Feb 15 2021, 06:41 PM
mgarrison   Today was mostly washing/cleaning up my truck, but...   Feb 15 2021, 06:45 PM
djway   Does it feel stiffer? :)   Feb 15 2021, 10:18 PM
mgarrison   Impossible to tell...no suspension, wheels, etc....   Feb 16 2021, 09:43 AM
mgarrison   I got the panels all stitched in. Things were goin...   Feb 18 2021, 07:39 PM
seanpaulmc   Great job!!! :Qarl: Is there any st...   Feb 18 2021, 07:55 PM
mgarrison   Great job!!! :Qarl: Is there any s...   Feb 26 2021, 08:34 PM
mgarrison   Still just trying to keep moving forward. Inch by ...   Feb 26 2021, 09:02 PM
mgarrison   I wire brushed the vent holes as best I could and ...   Feb 27 2021, 08:12 PM
mgarrison   I've been working along slowly. Just keep swim...   Mar 21 2021, 02:38 PM
mgarrison   I was really struggling trying to figure out how t...   Apr 7 2021, 10:30 AM
mgarrison   Been plugging along slowly. Finished up the frunk,...   Apr 11 2021, 02:41 PM
mgarrison   I got the block off plates from Mad Dog Motorsport...   Apr 16 2021, 09:30 PM
mgarrison   Working on reusing/repurposing the fender braces o...   Apr 20 2021, 10:11 AM
76-914   Using those butt-weld clamps as a 3rd hand was a g...   Apr 20 2021, 07:29 PM
mgarrison   Using those butt-weld clamps as a 3rd hand was a ...   Jun 1 2021, 10:26 AM
mgarrison   I've been making small/slow progress. I just k...   Jun 1 2021, 10:51 AM
76-914   You will finish the project quicker when working o...   Jun 2 2021, 09:04 AM
mgarrison   Finally got my filter/dryer delivered and installe...   Jun 10 2021, 04:43 PM
mgarrison   Started before 6am to try and spray at least one q...   Jun 15 2021, 09:32 AM
76-914   Looks great. What size tip did you use? I don...   Jun 15 2021, 12:00 PM
mgarrison   I just used the Schutz gun that came with the Rapt...   Jun 15 2021, 12:57 PM
mgarrison   I've been spraying one quart each morning befo...   Jun 17 2021, 10:16 AM
Costa05   I've been spraying one quart each morning bef...   Jun 17 2021, 10:31 AM
mgarrison   So, the Raptor coating did not hide my patches/rep...   Jun 28 2021, 09:54 AM
mgarrison   Finally had a morning with little wind, so I gave ...   Jul 4 2021, 06:02 PM
Mayne   Impressive work! Are you going to spray the ar...   Jul 5 2021, 06:17 AM
mgarrison   Most likely will leave them black. But, if after I...   Jul 5 2021, 12:01 PM
Mowog4   I am enjoying the build, I am in Mesa with a simil...   Jul 8 2021, 09:10 PM
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