Combo Gauge Question, Can the case be modified to add a dummy light? |
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Combo Gauge Question, Can the case be modified to add a dummy light? |
Highland |
Mar 12 2020, 02:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 513 Joined: 8-August 11 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 13,418 Region Association: Southern California |
A long time ago I bought a combo gauge with an oil temp gauge. The gauge did not come with a bezel so a planned on installing the bezel I removed from my original gauge today.
In the process I learned that the gauge casing sold to me is identical to my original. To make it work I would have to drill a hole in the back of the case for the generator dummy light and install a new bulb holder. My question is can the bulb holders be removed. If not, can they be purchased? |
Bleyseng |
Mar 13 2020, 07:45 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I don't think so but you can try as they are pressed in. Maybe send it out to a speedo shop
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jfort |
Mar 13 2020, 08:03 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,135 Joined: 5-May 03 From: Findlay, OH Member No.: 652 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I replaced bulb holders for the turn signal lights in the tach. Found the holders, in really good shape, on eBay.
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914forme |
Mar 13 2020, 09:11 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Yes it is possible, need a few more parts than just the bulb holder, but these can be found in other combo gauges or created. Piece of heat shrink comes to mind. Just need to divide the light so it lights up the region you want to have light, and only that region.
Press, weld, epoxy, solder, etc.... If epoxy use a latter bulb holder that added ground spade, makes the connection much more reliable. |
bdstone914 |
Mar 13 2020, 01:20 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,522 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
@Highland
date='Mar 12 2020, 01:24 PM' post='2793554'] A long time ago I bought a combo gauge with an oil temp gauge. The gauge did not come with a bezel so a planned on installing the bezel I removed from my original gauge today. In the process I learned that the gauge casing sold to me is identical to my original. To make it work I would have to drill a hole in the back of the case for the generator dummy light and install a new bulb holder. My question is can the bulb holders be removed. If not, can they be purchased? [/quote] The yellow dot to the right of the silver dot as for a warning light for the Sportamatic. You can add a light there. |
Mark Henry |
Mar 13 2020, 01:55 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
The yellow dot to the right of the silver dot as for a warning light for the Sportamatic. You can add a light there. That might be the original purpose, but it's a dummy lens and its bulb holder is for the dash light. It would have to be drilled open and you would have to scavenge a light direction tube from another gauge, plus I don't think it's a real lens and then you would have to figure out a new dash light. |
Highland |
Mar 13 2020, 06:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 513 Joined: 8-August 11 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 13,418 Region Association: Southern California |
Thanks for all the input.
I drilled a hole and fashioned a mount for the black plastic generator bulb holder. The gauge I purchased had a red lens secured with translucent tape on the faceplate and I only have 2 light tubes. My question is was it stock configuration to have 2 light tubes for the oil and e-brake dummy lights and the generator dummy light would shine unrestricted or should there be 3 light tubes? I assume the backlight shield prevents the backlight from lighting up the generator lens. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
FlacaProductions |
Jul 20 2020, 10:09 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,584 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California |
@Highland - did you ever figure this out? I am thinking of getting a combo gauge (914-641-101-50) and using the dummy/open indicator as a warning for another application. (as well as moving my temp out of the console to this gauge and then adding an oil pressure in the console in it's place...)
The one I have my eye on already has a red lens in that space as opposed to the clear/opaque one you normally see. It also has a light tube behind/feeding it. It has a manufacture stamp of 10/75 so I'm wondering if that's as-made or if it's been modified. Looking at the back, the lighting should be: OIL - "extra" - GEN - BRAKE correct? Lower tube illuminates the gas gauge area or does it do the Low Fuel light? If so...what illuminates the gauge as a whole? |
barefoot |
Jul 20 2020, 12:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,274 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States |
The one I have my eye on already has a red lens in that space as opposed to the clear/opaque one you normally see. It also has a light tube behind/feeding it. It has a manufacture stamp of 10/75 so I'm wondering if that's as-made or if it's been modified. Looking at the back, the lighting should be: OIL - "extra" - GEN - BRAKE correct? Lower tube illuminates the gas gauge area or does it do the Low Fuel light? If so...what illuminates the gauge as a whole? [/quote] My 76 is like what you show, but has a yellow dot where your's show red. I just used this socket for gauge illumination, works OK |
FlacaProductions |
Jul 20 2020, 06:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,584 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California |
@barefoot is that the only socket that provides overall gauge illumination? If so, I wonder what lit the gauges if that one was used by the Sportomatic function?
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barefoot |
Jul 21 2020, 12:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,274 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States |
@barefoot is that the only socket that provides overall gauge illumination? If so, I wonder what lit the gauges if that one was used by the Sportomatic function? The other 3 sockets are used for (Left to right) brake warning, generator, & oil pressure warning lite. None of these 3 provide any overall illumination. No idea of sporotmatic (not sure it was an option in 75, 76) |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jul 21 2020, 02:24 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,858 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
call hartmut at Palo Alto speedometer he has the answers to all of your 914 instrument questions and is a hell of a nice guy
A long time ago I bought a combo gauge with an oil temp gauge. The gauge did not come with a bezel so a planned on installing the bezel I removed from my original gauge today. In the process I learned that the gauge casing sold to me is identical to my original. To make it work I would have to drill a hole in the back of the case for the generator dummy light and install a new bulb holder. My question is can the bulb holders be removed. If not, can they be purchased? |
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