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Jacking point damage? |
iankarr |
Mar 26 2020, 12:10 AM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,471 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
If those are not where we are suppose to jack the car up from, then how are we supposed to use a quick jack? I have one specifically so I don't have to use a single side lift jack to lift the car up. So much simpler to use than jack stands and a shop jack. @cuddy_k ? I've always used the donuts...though with a quick jack the load is equally spread over the 4 of them. I suppose you could use the QJ pinch weld blocks and lift from the rockers, but you'd need to remove the rocker covers to keep them from getting bent. |
Biggles |
Mar 26 2020, 03:25 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 191 Joined: 5-September 13 From: UK Member No.: 16,353 Region Association: England |
Based on the responses, the fact the rear donuts / surrounding floorpan on my car look fine, and noticing from a picture I took where my garage jacked the car at the front I will jack it on the rear donut with a spreader plate and a spreader plate in the front corner behind the wheel arch:
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drem914 |
Mar 26 2020, 10:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,029 Joined: 16-May 08 From: Trabuco Canyon, CA Member No.: 9,062 Region Association: Southern California |
If those are not where we are suppose to jack the car up from, then how are we supposed to use a quick jack? I have one specifically so I don't have to use a single side lift jack to lift the car up. So much simpler to use than jack stands and a shop jack. @cuddy_k ? I've always used the donuts...though with a quick jack the load is equally spread over the 4 of them. I suppose you could use the QJ pinch weld blocks and lift from the rockers, but you'd need to remove the rocker covers to keep them from getting bent. For now I'll stick with the donuts. at most each is carrying 500 lbs. |
euro911 |
Jul 6 2020, 11:49 AM
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euro911 |
Jul 6 2020, 01:30 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,845 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
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Retroracer |
Jul 6 2020, 05:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 609 Joined: 7-July 13 From: Bend OR Member No.: 16,100 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Donut jacking: interesting reading for me.
Early on in my build when fixing rust, dents, adding stiffening, etc. I used the rear donuts to jack the car almost all the time. I remember trying to jack it up using one of the front donuts once, and was shocked to notice the floor deforming! I quickly dropped it, "persuaded" that section of the floor back into place - this was before paint remember - and decided never to jack up the car on the front donuts ever again. I still routinely use the rear donuts to jack the car, then use a wrapped wooden spreader along the rocker (sill) area to take the load with a jack stand. Not seen any deformation around the rear donuts thus far. - Tony PS. @euro911 : LOL |
Cairo94507 |
Jul 6 2020, 05:50 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,713 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
Jesus.....what is the best way to lift a 914 w/o doing damage? I have a mid-rise scissor lift in my garage and plan on putting the Six on it to keep it nice and clean on a regular basis. What is the best and safest way to lift it? I had always assumed using the donuts was correct. Then again it's been 30 years since I lifted a 914.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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MM1 |
Jul 6 2020, 06:34 PM
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914 obsession continues Group: Members Posts: 608 Joined: 9-May 18 From: Thousand Oaks, CA Member No.: 22,105 Region Association: Southern California |
Sir Andy,
Is it possible for you to elucidate my ignorance? I've read a few threads here and am still not clear on the correct and safest method to raise the 914. I've read (not scrutinized or memorized) Dr. B. Johnson's "914 and 914-6 Porsche" (new revised edition) and the Haynes 914 manual (which only mentions the "rocker (sill) panel" (pg.8). I consulted my 914World "guru" (and won't dare embarrass him with my follies here), and bought hockey pucks to place on jackstands under the doughnuts after jacking up the forward control arm mounts (is that the correct move? - seems awfully far forward on a uni-body). I haven't dared to do any of this after reading said threads . . .bitte schön, mein Herr - your guidance and that of our friends (with a definitive "factory-like" answer) would be deeply appreciated. Marcus |
euro911 |
Jul 6 2020, 11:38 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,845 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
Jesus.....what is the best way to lift a 914 w/o doing damage? I have a mid-rise scissor lift in my garage and plan on putting the Six on it to keep it nice and clean on a regular basis. What is the best and safest way to lift it? I had always assumed using the donuts was correct. Then again it's been 30 years since I lifted a 914.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Place some 2x6 wooden blocks on top of your lift, place them directly under the back side of the front wheel wells like Biggles posted, then elevate the lift. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-16353-1585214908_thumb.jpg) I also use a couple of wooden blocks that have a groove cut into them installed under the rear section of the longs. The seams on the longs rest in the grooves when the lift is elevated. |
mepstein |
Jul 7 2020, 06:17 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Jesus.....what is the best way to lift a 914 w/o doing damage? I have a mid-rise scissor lift in my garage and plan on putting the Six on it to keep it nice and clean on a regular basis. What is the best and safest way to lift it? I had always assumed using the donuts was correct. Then again it's been 30 years since I lifted a 914.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Get a bag of hockey pucks. They cost ~$10 for four. Cut a groove down the middle of each one the width of the pitch weld under the long. |
Cairo94507 |
Jul 7 2020, 06:32 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,713 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
OK- I have a few hockey pucks and several other lifting rubber blocks, some of which have the groves cut into them for the pinch weld. I will give all of them a look for fitment when the car is home. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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MM1 |
Jul 7 2020, 09:31 AM
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914 obsession continues Group: Members Posts: 608 Joined: 9-May 18 From: Thousand Oaks, CA Member No.: 22,105 Region Association: Southern California |
Thanks, Gents!
Mark - so when jacking the front, do you lift with pucks 1 jackstand's width rearward of the front corner of the long? or do you ever jack from the forward control arm mount as some do? |
mepstein |
Jul 7 2020, 10:45 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Thanks, Gents! Mark - so when jacking the front, do you lift with pucks 1 jackstand's width rearward of the front corner of the long? or do you ever jack from the forward control arm mount as some do? Whatever works. The pucks aren’t always handy. When I first started working at the shop, I was sent out to buy some pucks so Russo could jack up the 962. If it was good enough for that Porsche... |
MM1 |
Jul 8 2020, 09:52 AM
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914 obsession continues Group: Members Posts: 608 Joined: 9-May 18 From: Thousand Oaks, CA Member No.: 22,105 Region Association: Southern California |
Thanks, Gents! Mark - so when jacking the front, do you lift with pucks 1 jackstand's width rearward of the front corner of the long? or do you ever jack from the forward control arm mount as some do? Whatever works. The pucks aren’t always handy. When I first started working at the shop, I was sent out to buy some pucks so Russo could jack up the 962. If it was good enough for that Porsche... Thank you, Sir! |
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