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LS1V8Jerry
post Mar 26 2020, 01:53 PM
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Here are some pics from the 12 floor tower at LAWA. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Mar 26 2020, 02:01 PM
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Yeah strange things like that occur when you put a State under martial law.
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post Mar 26 2020, 02:21 PM
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Here’s Pike Place Market two weeks ago. Normally the tables are filled with flowers and artsy stuff for sale. This morning a truck broke down on 405 durning rush hour and there were so few cars on the highway that it didn’t matter.
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post Mar 26 2020, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Mar 26 2020, 01:01 PM) *
Yeah strange things like that occur when you put a State under martial law.
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I'm not sure what you are smoking, but there ain't no martial law here ...
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post Mar 26 2020, 02:50 PM
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WOW...photo looks weird.


For those that don't know, Jerry is currently under contract @ LAX as a Senior Access Control / Alarm Specialist...thanks for keeping us safe dawg!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


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post Mar 26 2020, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 26 2020, 04:41 PM) *

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Mar 26 2020, 01:01 PM) *
Yeah strange things like that occur when you put a State under martial law.
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I'm not sure what you are smoking, but there ain't no martial law here ...
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Maybe not in name . . . but in practice . . . same effect. What's the term we use in polite company? Ah, yes. Please continue to shelter in place.

Don't take this the wrong way as we are under the same martial law in Michigan. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

AZ of all places still not under the same order. I say good for them but it's at least a little odd given the number of supposedly old and "at risk" individuals that live in the state.
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post Mar 26 2020, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Mar 26 2020, 02:45 PM) *
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Mar 26 2020, 01:01 PM) *
Yeah strange things like that occur when you put a State under martial law.
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I'm not sure what you are smoking, but there ain't no martial law here ...
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Maybe not in name . . . but in practice . . . same effect.

I don't think you understand what martial law means:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law


There is nothing of the sort where i live ...
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post Mar 26 2020, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 26 2020, 05:49 PM) *

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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Mar 26 2020, 01:01 PM) *
Yeah strange things like that occur when you put a State under martial law.
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I'm not sure what you are smoking, but there ain't no martial law here ...
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Maybe not in name . . . but in practice . . . same effect.

I don't think you understand what martial law means:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law


There is nothing of the sort where i live ...
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@SirAndy I'm just playing with words but. . . . what do you want to call it when your constitutional right to freedom of movment have been suspended and when the Government has forced business to involuntarily shut down thereby depriving it's citizens of the ability to work?

Can you really tell your hyper milarized "civilian" police with thier body armor and MRAPs from the military?

Let me offer the following link . . . seems the Military Times has a slightlly different take on the defintion.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-mil...to-martial-law/

"What is ‘martial law’

In simple terms, martial law is the replacement of civil rule with temporary military authority in a time of crisis. While its imposition is rare, the United States does have several noteworthy instances where martial law came into play, including in times of war, natural disasters and civic disputes.

Though there is no precise definition of martial law, the precedent in the United States holds that under it, “certain civil liberties may be suspended, such as the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures, freedom of association, and freedom of movement. And the writ of habeas corpus [the right to a trial before imprisonment] may be suspended," according to a legal journal."

Freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures - Yup that is gone.

Freedom of association. Yup that is gone. Can't have a assemblies of 50 or more people - especially in bars or restauraunts.

Freedom of movement. Hanging on by a thread. I'm not aware of anyone being prosecuted for going place to place yet as long as its "essential". Essential is very hard to prove. It is essential that I go to the store to get pet food.

writ of habeas corpus - agree - not yet suspended.

I'm fully with you that the actual US military is not out patroling the streets. Let's all hope it doesn't come to that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)

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post Mar 26 2020, 04:14 PM
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Do you consider yourself enslaved?
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post Mar 26 2020, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Mar 26 2020, 03:04 PM) *
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None of that is true though.

Nobody is going to arrest you on your trip to the store to restock your toilet paper stash. There's no military in the streets to enforce a curfew. You won't end up in a court-martial because you walked your dog. There was no military coup, nobody ripped your constitution to shreds.


Your hyperbole is tiring and more importantly, dangerous. You are diluting the meaning of a real martial law by comparing your inconveniences with real oppression.
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post Mar 26 2020, 04:19 PM
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I think we may have too much spare time on our hands.

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post Mar 26 2020, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Mar 26 2020, 05:04 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 26 2020, 05:49 PM) *

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Mar 26 2020, 02:45 PM) *
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 26 2020, 04:41 PM) *
QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Mar 26 2020, 01:01 PM) *
Yeah strange things like that occur when you put a State under martial law.
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I'm not sure what you are smoking, but there ain't no martial law here ...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)

Maybe not in name . . . but in practice . . . same effect.

I don't think you understand what martial law means:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law


There is nothing of the sort where i live ...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)


@SirAndy I'm just playing with words but. . . . what do you want to call it when your constitutional right to freedom of movment have been suspended and when the Government has forced business to involuntarily shut down thereby depriving it's citizens of the ability to work?

Can you really tell your hyper milarized "civilian" police with thier body armor and MRAPs from the military?

Let me offer the following link . . . seems the Military Times has a slightlly different take on the defintion.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-mil...to-martial-law/

"What is ‘martial law’

In simple terms, martial law is the replacement of civil rule with temporary military authority in a time of crisis. While its imposition is rare, the United States does have several noteworthy instances where martial law came into play, including in times of war, natural disasters and civic disputes.

Though there is no precise definition of martial law, the precedent in the United States holds that under it, “certain civil liberties may be suspended, such as the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures, freedom of association, and freedom of movement. And the writ of habeas corpus [the right to a trial before imprisonment] may be suspended," according to a legal journal."

Freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures - Yup that is gone.

Freedom of association. Yup that is gone. Can't have a assemblies of 50 or more people - especially in bars or restauraunts.

Freedom of movement. Hanging on by a thread. I'm not aware of anyone being prosecuted for going place to place yet as long as its "essential". Essential is very hard to prove. It is essential that I go to the store to get pet food.

writ of habeas corpus - agree - not yet suspended.

I'm fully with you that the actual US military is not out patroling the streets. Let's all hope it doesn't come to that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)



I will reply with this..... The United States Constitution is not a suicide pact. The government is doing what is necessary to keep us all from dying.


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post Mar 26 2020, 04:29 PM
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Well at least we agree that we don't have a Constitution that guides our Government on what they can or cannot do. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grouphug.gif)

I'm sure all the businesses that go out of business will thank the Government later.
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post Mar 26 2020, 04:37 PM
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It’s actually quite simple the shelter in place was Ordered because to Many people are not smart enough to do it on their own even after it was in place. Frankly I think it should have been the entire country to stop the spread right away. I really hate to say it but if you look at how quickly China has stopped the virus once they realized how fast it spread that would be More seriously like martial law.
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Came out of JFK yesterday, they did have police patrolling the streets and the hotel we were in. Just seemed weird.
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I’m writing this on a flight from NZ to Australia. NZ has adopted strict rules for people to keep apart and for non essential services to close. Plane nearly empty. Airport nearly empty.

if people don’t do this more people will die - give up a bit of personal freedom for goodness sake so others (mothers, fathers) can live.

For goodness sake!!

Stay well fellow humans - we can beat this! But only if we are all really sensible and not selfish. Be kind.

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I haven't seen traffic this light since the 80's
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This is for our own benefit and is a serious issue.

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I’m writing this on a flight from NZ to Australia. NZ has adopted strict rules for people to keep apart and for non essential services to close. Plane nearly empty. Airport nearly empty.

if people don’t do this more people will die - give up a bit of personal freedom for goodness sake so others (mothers, fathers) can live.

For goodness sake!!

Stay well fellow humans - we can beat this! But only if we are all really sensible and not selfish. Be kind.

Dave


Right on Dave. Time to think of your friends, family and community, not just yourself. This is no time for selfishness, please wait a few months and then you can be as selfish as you want. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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I wish more San Diegans would stay in. People here did not last a week. Sure traffic is down some but more and more people are congregating every day since the gov said to stay in.

I have a letter in my rental saying I am supposed to be out but looks like I will not need to present it.
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